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Old 04-19-2014, 05:37 PM   #1
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My Rosen Car Show CS-CR1210-US Navigation Installation in 2011 JK 2 Door

After reading the excellent review from JK2013 on Amazon, I began researching the Rosen Car Show Piranha CS-CR1210-US for my 2011 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I had the standard factory radio (RES) single CD with steering wheel controls.
There are a couple installation videos that Rosen has on YouTube that also helped me with my decision.

I wanted something that looked factory, had Sirius/XM, Bluetooth, RDS, hands free phone, backup camera, worked with my steering wheel controls and was easy to install. I also did not want to pay $1000+ for this. This unit fit my needs very well.

I ordered it from Sonic Elextronix after calling them with a few questions. I wanted to make sure this was truly plug and play. Sonic had it for $30.00 less then Amazon and I used the $30.00 to get a Metra TE-THC backup camera. My total from Sonic was $697.00. I also picked up the SXV200V1 Sirius XM Connect tuner for $44.00 at Best Buy. UPS delivery from Sonic was 4 days.

I spent the better part of an evening and morning for the install. No real problems, I just went real slow and wanted to get it right. Like JK2013 the toughest part was the rear camera install. I ended up putting the camera in the trailer hitch cover because I did not want to remove the bumper.

The fit of the head unit is very tight and make sure you don’t pinch or cut any wires trying to get them all pushed up behind the radio.

Everything worked fine except the backup camera. My quick splice connector at the back up lights did not work with the very thin backup camera wires. I had to cut the wires and use a butt connector. Then all was fine.

The unit works and sounds great and is truly plug and play. It comes with the harness needed for the Sirius XM SXV200V1 and set up was easy. The steering wheel controls volume, will switch radio presets, scan radio frequencies and let you switch on navigation. For some reason once in navigation, I can’t switch back out, with the steering wheel controls, although I can still change radio presets with the steering wheel controls while navigation is on.

My only concern is if I can update maps in the future. The web site Rosen sends you to wants you to download different installation software. My computers are Apple and it looks like their stuff is windows only. I would be interested if someone has successfully updated their software from the web site Naviextras.com.

My install is only one day old but so far I am very happy with my purchase. This is a very nice, professional looking do it yourself install for someone who likes to tinker, but is not a professional.
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Old 04-21-2014, 11:03 AM   #2
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2 day post installation update:

I was able to update the maps and figure out how to play DVD's on the head unit. The parking break has to be on! (Duh).

I was also able to change the flash screen on the unit by following instructions on this web site. Rosen Piranha Splashscreen Creation Tool

Anyway I am very happy with this unit and highly recommend it for a JK radio upgrade for someone who does not want to have to splice any wires and keep the factory steering wheel controls.

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Old 04-23-2014, 01:20 PM   #3
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Hi, I'm seriously thinking about getting this stereo when I get my Jeep. It looks great, but I have a few questions.

How well does the unit work with your phone? Where/how did you mount the microphone, or is there a factory mic (Uconnect?) that this system can use?

I've read that the startup time for this unit is a little slow. What's your experience with that, so far? Does it seem like it takes a while to get up and running or is it really not noticeable?

Last question, how easy is it to read the screen when you're driving around in daylight?

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Works great with a IPhone 5S. I used the built in microphone in the head unit although they do provide a mic and cable if you want to mount it elsewhere. I am told they can't tell I am on hands free. I do have to crank up the volume when on the phone and remember to turn it down when you hang up or your radio will blast. There might be a setting for this but I have not found it. You do get recent calls, outgoing calls and your contact list (see photo). One thing you see in the reviews and is true is that you do not get album art and song titles through bluetooth. It plays everything fine just no descriptions unless you hook up via USB.

Start up time is about 20 seconds. I get the splash screen and backup camera right away but it takes the 20 seconds for Sirius XM to start playing. Navigation a few seconds later when you hit the "I agree" button. Does not bother me.

The screen seems fine to me but I don't have anything to compare it to. I have a hardtop and tinted back glass. Could be a little brighter. I have been playing with the map colors some to help. I think it is more the angle you are looking at it in the Wrangler more so then the brightness, but again I don't think it is a big deal.

One strange thing is you get a 12hr clock on radio menus but on a 24 hr clock on navigation. There are setting to show clock, speed and altitude on the navigation screen or just one of the three. I like that the speed limit is shown on most roads and it turns red when you exceed. Factory default is a voice warning but I had to turn that off. Too annoying!
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:11 AM   #5
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Could you post a few more pics of the interface? I'm really curious about this unit. Also, how is the ipod control on it? Typically I just hook up an old iphone that has all my music on it and leave it in the glove box.
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Here are several photos. I-Phone/pod via bluetooth does not give you song and artist info (last photo) but hooking it up via USB does. You can skip through songs using the steering wheel controls hooked up either way. I also took photos of the XM, rear camera and AM-FM Radio screens.
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You also have several choices of backgrounds. I am using the red rocks one. I also added the navigation screen below.
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Phil, what speaker setup did your Jeep come with? The standard of the Infinity?
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Thanks for the pics. I'm really liking the factory look of that. I was was trying to find a copy of the owners manual online but I don't think I found the right one. The one I was reading said that when an iphone/ipod is hooked up via usb that the eq is disabled. Can you confirm this? 99% of my listening would be via a usb connected ipod.
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Y-Guy-I have the standard speaker set up. No sub.

cicatriz63-Here is the link for the generic "Piranha" series manual:
http://www.rosenelectronics.com/Owne...Y)_REV%20B.pdf

Most of these features are the same but the photo is different. I wish the manuals were better but I am figuring most things out on my own.

I did hook up my I-phone just now via usb and was able to get into the audio and eq settings while playing a song.
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Awesome, thanks for confirming that. Yea thats the manual I was reading, this is what threw me "The iPod/iPhone is used with the equalizer function turned OFF." But I now realize that that is a setting on the device itself and not the head unit. I didn't really want to go with a head unit with nav as I think it is kind of unnecessary being that google maps does a good enough job, but this one has me seriously reconsidering.
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One strange thing on navigation. The maps switch to night view at 5:15 pm MDT. Can't seem to figure out how to change that except for leaving the daytime view on all the time, which is too bright at night. I also wish it had a clock on the display when the unit is off. It does on all screens when powered on.
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Y-Guy-I have the standard speaker set up. No sub.
Thanks for the info! The guys at Extreme Terrain are selling the Raxiom Navigation which is a rebranded Rosen unit, but they came back shortly after posting saying that it was not compatible with the infinity system. Bummer.
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Here is the fitment chart from Rosen:

http://www.rosenelectronics.com/nav/...nt%20Chart.pdf
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Phil T - thanks for posting this from the beginning. I just ordered the head unit and will receive it tomorrow. Looking forward to the install.
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RugbyRef - I hope you enjoy it. Also download the Jeep splash screen here:

Rosen Piranha Splashscreen Creation Tool

Here is what it looks like:
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RugbyRef - I hope you enjoy it. Also download the Jeep splash screen here: Rosen Piranha Splashscreen Creation Tool Here is what it looks like:
Thanks again Phil! That looks great!
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Thanks for the fitment chart link, "The PR-CR1210 does not currently support Premium Audio such as the Alpine system w/ sub on the Jeep Wrangler Sahara and Rubicon. Check vehicle for subwoofer set up as the factory radios do not mention premium audio." Which confirms what Crutchfield had posted too, "Does not support Premium Audio systems."

I suppose the positve part of that statement is "does not currently support" which might also mean it may at some point.
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How is the touch response on this unit? By that I mean when navigating through menus or selecting buttons is there any sort of delay or if you are scrolling through settings how does the interface feel?
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Does it have an output to add an amp ?
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How is the touch response on this unit? By that I mean when navigating through menus or selecting buttons is there any sort of delay or if you are scrolling through settings how does the interface feel?
Touch response is excellent! A bit of a delay between screens, but nothing to get you frustrated. Once in a selection the button response is instantaneous.
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Does it have an output to add an amp ?
Multiple outlets, but let m check for an amp connection.
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Great!

Thanks Phil T! Now I know what I want to do when my JKU gets here in a few weeks.
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Is the Rosen a good head unit to get if I am planning on upgrading speakers and adding an amp and sub ?
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Yes there are outputs for an amp. If you have the Infinity or Alpine factory system you can still use this unit. It will just be more involved than plug and play. Unless someone knows how to hack the factory amp, you can wire the mids and highs the the speaker outputs and put a small amp on the factory sub. You can also add a 5 channel amp to power all the speakers. Of course you can go much further but this radio with an amp will be pretty simple if you have the premium system.
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If you have the Infinity or Alpine factory system you can still use this unit. It will just be more involved than plug and play.
Can you expand on this at all or share more info? So far I'll found is are the "not compatible" statements nothing more.
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The radio will still work fine it just won't plug straight to the factory amp, but all of the other functions will work. Think of it this way, when you install it everything will work... just no sound. To get sound You will have to bypass the factory amp and wire directly to the speakers. If you are not sure how, any competent stereo shop can do it. For the sub, you will need a small amp. The factory sub won't need a lot of power. The amp will connect to the outputs on the radio. Going this route is a good thing. It will actually sound better by getting rid of the factory eq settings in the amp. If you like your tunes loud the factory speakers will have to be replaced if you blow them. If you listen at normal levels and make sure to not turn it to the point of distortion you won't have any problems.
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When they say not compatible they are referring to the amp. They way I described in the previous would be essentially the same as yanking out the factory system. If you are only keeping the speakers then it won't be any different than the base system.
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Thanks Smitty, since the Infinity Sub is next to worthless this might be a good way to go for me. Replace the head unit, new speakers and drop the sub. I don't need it loud but when door/topless need a bit more volume.
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If you really like the factory look, that would be the way to go.

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