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Old 07-14-2013, 10:20 PM   #31
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will I need 3 wiring kits for the 3 subs? like 3 of these?

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will I need 3 wiring kits for the 3 subs? like 3 of these?

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Yes. If each sub requires an amp.
Always wire them in parallel, never daisy chain them(aka series run).
Remember each sub has a pos a neg, so you need both those wires connecting to the amp.

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Old 07-15-2013, 11:45 AM   #33
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What is the difference between a single and dual voice coil. Seems like dual voice coil is better and that boss sub only has single.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:19 PM   #34
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Okay I'm going to get the two 12s and boxes for those first. If that's not enough I'll invest in more Subs later. If I have a 2000w 2 channel sub I'll only need one wiring kit for the one amp running both Subs right?
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:39 PM   #35
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That is correct.
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What is the difference between a single and dual voice coil. Seems like dual voice coil is better and that boss sub only has single.
Dual voice coil gives you more flexibility in wiring the sub. Example: a dual 2 ohm sub can be wired as either 1 ohm or 4 ohms. A dual 4 ohm can be wired as 2 ohms or 8 ohms.
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So then two 4 ohm subs can only be wired at 2 ohms each
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So then two 4 ohm subs can only be wired at 2 ohms each
Two single voice coil 4 ohm subs can be wired either 2 ohms total or 8 ohms total.

Two dual voice coil 4 ohm subs (4 ohms each coil) can be wired to 1 ohm total or 4 ohms total.
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Old 07-15-2013, 05:03 PM   #39
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The brand of the sub doesn't matter near as much as having the right power going to it and the right airspace in the box. All they really do is push air. Just make sure you get quality construction. Use that useless factory console sub as a referrence of what not to get. Paper cone = bad, foam surround = bad you want the rubber ones.

I haven't had play money to invest in my jeep yet but had some ancient kenwood 10's and a 300w amp in my last vehicle. Bought em third hand for cheap. With the right box and a decent head unit they sounded amazing. Not super loud by any means, but sounded crystal clear.

Also consider upgrading the high speakers too if you haven't already. Otherwise your gonna have all bass and no mid's/highs balance and it just doesn't sound right. I think I used diamond audio 6.5's, not cheap, but not super expensive either. You could make out the different symbols and hi hats and everything the drummer was doing. Ideally you want those on a seperate amp too so you can tune the frequencies going to them better, but they sound fine running them straight off the head unit.
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The brand of the sub doesn't matter near as much as having the right power going to it and the right airspace in the box. All they really do is push air. Just make sure you get quality construction. Use that useless factory console sub as a referrence of what not to get. Paper cone = bad, foam surround = bad you want the rubber ones.

I haven't had play money to invest in my jeep yet but had some ancient kenwood 10's and a 300w amp in my last vehicle. Bought em third hand for cheap. With the right box and a decent head unit they sounded amazing. Not super loud by any means, but sounded crystal clear.

Also consider upgrading the high speakers too if you haven't already. Otherwise your gonna have all bass and no mid's/highs balance and it just doesn't sound right. I think I used diamond audio 6.5's, not cheap, but not super expensive either. You could make out the different symbols and hi hats and everything the drummer was doing. Ideally you want those on a seperate amp too so you can tune the frequencies going to them better, but they sound fine running them straight off the head unit.
True, but certain subs actually do suck in quality. Most important part is power and proper box construction. Also you can have either a sealed box or a ported box. You can also invert your sub as well.
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Yeah, some aren't very good but on a budget you can make anything sound decent (not great) with the right airspace and power. But if you use something with shoddy construction like that factory sub, it will just fall apart anyway. As long as you didn't overpower them you couldn't hurt those kenwoods, and they sounded pretty good for as cheap as i got them. Wish i could have kept them but would have had to design a new box to fit in the TJ, I just let them go with the truck and i'll start over with something better eventually.

If i had the cash i would get crossfire. I've used some of their marine speakers before and it's good stuff. They used to make a 10' BMF. Something about the design 1 speaker required a box the size you would normally use for 2 10's. Hit harder than some 15's i've heard. they also had 12 and 15 bmf's, but i don't have space for the boxes those require. Haven't looked in a while, they may make shallow mount speakers by now.
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Yeah, some aren't very good but on a budget you can make anything sound decent (not great) with the right airspace and power. But if you use something with shoddy construction like that factory sub, it will just fall apart anyway. As long as you didn't overpower them you couldn't hurt those kenwoods, and they sounded pretty good for as cheap as i got them. Wish i could have kept them but would have had to design a new box to fit in the TJ, I just let them go with the truck and i'll start over with something better eventually.

If i had the cash i would get crossfire. I've used some of their marine speakers before and it's good stuff. They used to make a 10' BMF. Something about the design 1 speaker required a box the size you would normally use for 2 10's. Hit harder than some 15's i've heard. they also had 12 and 15 bmf's, but i don't have space for the boxes those require. Haven't looked in a while, they may make shallow mount speakers by now.
That's awesome. For me, Ive got plenty of room in my TJ. Sold my back seat and brackets for it.
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Check out some of their stuff some time, very nice. Hard to find though, most audio shops don't carry it.

Yeah i would just get rid of the back seat completely, but now i have a little one on the way. I plan to use the wifes truck for a transport as much as possible, but sometimes i'm gonna have to put baby in the back seat. So I just gotta find some other way to fit a box in there while still being somewhat hidden. Maybe i can build a really shallow box under the seat for a high output 10 or something. I always liked the sealed downfiring design, but i ditched the carpet and bedlined it, so that may sound like garbage.
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Check out some of their stuff some time, very nice. Hard to find though, most audio shops don't carry it.

Yeah i would just get rid of the back seat completely, but now i have a little one on the way. I plan to use the wifes truck for a transport as much as possible, but sometimes i'm gonna have to put baby in the back seat. So I just gotta find some other way to fit a box in there while still being somewhat hidden. Maybe i can build a really shallow box under the seat for a high output 10 or something. I always liked the sealed downfiring design, but i ditched the carpet and bedlined it, so that may sound like garbage.
You could always put a strip of rubber/carpet under the sub box.

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