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Old 03-19-2012, 08:57 AM   #1
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New Sound system setup

hi everyone!

I just installed my new headunit over the weekend and could not be happier!
I got the Pioneer 6400BT

I'm considering upgrading, slowly, the sound system in my car. I feel like ultimately I'll end up needing to get a new amp to "power" what I'm looking for. Frankly, I don't quite fully know what an amp does but will be learning as I go along.

I know having a nice headunit, and fancy speakers don't really do justice without a good amp.

One thing that I do strongly prefer are nice set of tweeters.
I know there are the corner ones from quadratec but I don't prefer them. Is there a 4x6" front speaker setup that offers great tweeter performance in them? I really enjoy listening to the high ends more than the low - I love all the crisp detail sounds I can hear with tweeters.

Crutchfield expert recommended the Polk DB461 front speakers.. but just wanted to ask the community's feedback as usual.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:15 AM   #2
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How about going to one of your local mom and pop stereo stores and listen to some speakers? Quadratec and crutchfield are salesmen who know nothing. My 02

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How about going to one of your local mom and pop stereo stores and listen to some speakers? Quadratec and crutchfield are salesmen who know nothing. My 02
yea that might be true. i prefer personal experience feedback over their opinions.

listening to speakers at a local store probably will be better than nothing, although it doesn't tell me how "good" they may be for wrangler driving.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:21 AM   #4
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Yeah you need to do that....I sell stereos for a living and if I can give you any advice its to listen and see what you like, not what everyone else tells you to buy. Everyones ears are different and hear different things.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:26 AM   #5
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Yeah you need to do that....I sell stereos for a living and if I can give you any advice its to listen and see what you like, not what everyone else tells you to buy. Everyones ears are different and hear different things.
hmm.. good point.
as someone who sells stereos, what are good options for the front panel speakers for me to check out at the store?
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:30 AM   #6
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Man there are so many brands out there these days, there are good and bad in all of them. Brand isnt important, usually something in the 50-150 dollar range will be just fine.
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Man there are so many brands out there these days, there are good and bad in all of them. Brand isnt important, usually something in the 50-150 dollar range will be just fine.
lol I actually asked for options, not brands... hehe
I'm interested in stronger tweeter options built into the speakers..
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:38 AM   #8
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Well what year is your jeep?
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:41 AM   #9
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:49 AM   #10
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4x6 front speakers, you can either get coaxials or plates.....or, you can get adapters to put a 5.25 in it. Then you could get a component set and mount the tweeter whereever you want.
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:50 AM   #11
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4x6 front speakers, you can either get coaxials or plates.....or, you can get adapters to put a 5.25 in it. Then you could get a component set and mount the tweeter whereever you want.
what's an example of a component set to mount tweeters wherever?
haha sorry..audio noob.
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a component set is basically a seperate mid woofer and a tweeter. You can mount the mid in the stock location and the tweeter on top of the dash if you want.

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a component set is basically a seperate mid woofer and a tweeter. You can mount the mid in the stock location and the tweeter on top of the dash if you want.

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this looks to be the exact same thing right? haha
Amazon.com: Powerbass 3xl-5c 3xl Series 5.25 Inch 3 Ohm Component Speaker Kit with Big 1.25 Inch Silk Dome Tweeters: Car Electronics
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Curious to the reasoning behind the 3ohm impedance on that component set? Most I've seen are 4ohm and some 2ohm. Not that it makes much difference other than amp choices..
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Actually it does, most head units will accept a 3 ohm load but not a 2. Being its a lower impedance it will draw more power from the head unit making them louder without hurting it.
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That never crossed my mind.. The thought of running a component set from a head unit just sounds strange to me. But it makes sense.. My thought was always if you're going through the trouble of mounting separates, may as well amp them too...
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I have all stock speakers in mine still, just replaced the head unit and ran this easy to hook up subwoofer/amp fits under the rear seat of a tj or under the drivers seat. This unit is all in one self powered and you even get the kit to hook it up! so nothing else to buy. Sound Ordnance™ B-8PT 120-watt compact powered subwoofer at Crutchfield.com
It gives off strong low's and was exactly what the stock tj speakers needed to help the sound level out and sound filling. Good luck in your endeavors!
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so just as a follow up, i saw these on sale and am thinking about getting 'em for my dash installs.

Boston Acoustics SE50 5-1/4" component speaker system at Crutchfield.com

to go along with my headunit: Pioneer DEH-6400BT CD receiver at Crutchfield.com

i'm not sure if the specifications matter significantly, and i'm not audio expert and am hoping an expert can chime in here.

would the headunit, and the speakers i linked work 'well' to its capacity?
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I just put an Alpine CDE-122 head unit in, two 4x6 Polk Audio speakers in the dash and two 6.5 Polk Audio speakers in the sound bar (had to drill new holes to mount them). Sounds pretty darn good IMO. Not a ton of bass from them but i'm not looking for that really.
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I just put an Alpine CDE-122 head unit in, two 4x6 Polk Audio speakers in the dash and two 6.5 Polk Audio speakers in the sound bar (had to drill new holes to mount them). Sounds pretty darn good IMO. Not a ton of bass from them but i'm not looking for that really.
thanks for the update, although it didn't really answer my 'technical' question i guess.
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Another option would be to put 5.25" in the dash. It's really easy with these $11 adapter plates from Ebay. I know it's not exactly what you asked for, but I thought I would let you know that there are other perfectly acceptable options out there. Putting mine in only took me a few minutes.
4x6" to 5.25" Jeep Speaker Adapters Plate Brackets Spacers Rubicon Unlimited TJ | eBay


It gives you more options in speaker choices.
I went with Orion XTR 5.25" coaxial for the dash. I put a foam baffle stuffed with poly fill behind them with a 1.5x1.5 vent hole cut in the bottom.
They are currently just running off of the factory head unit but they sound great. They are very crisp and clear, they sound much better than the Infinity speakers that were in it from the factory.


They will soon have a new JVC head unit and a 400 watt amp pushing them.

In the pods on the roll bars I put a matching set of Orion XTR separates.

If you're interested in them...
Orion XTR522 Full Range Car Speakers at Onlinecarstereo.com
Orion XTR52 Component Systems at Onlinecarstereo.com

As for what the pros think of the Orion XTR, I have no clue. But they sound good to me.
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Another option would be to put 5.25" in the dash. It's really easy with these $11 adapter plates from Ebay. I know it's not exactly what you asked for, but I thought I would let you know that there are other perfectly acceptable options out there. Putting mine in only took me a few minutes.
4x6" to 5.25" Jeep Speaker Adapters Plate Brackets Spacers Rubicon Unlimited TJ | eBay


It gives you more options in speaker choices.
I went with Orion XTR 5.25" coaxial for the dash. I put a foam baffle stuffed with poly fill behind them with a 1.5x1.5 vent hole cut in the bottom.
They are currently just running off of the factory head unit but they sound great. They are very crisp and clear, they sound much better than the Infinity speakers that were in it from the factory.


They will soon have a new JVC head unit and a 400 watt amp pushing them.

In the pods on the roll bars I put a matching set of Orion XTR separates.

If you're interested in them...
Orion XTR522 Full Range Car Speakers at Onlinecarstereo.com
Orion XTR52 Component Systems at Onlinecarstereo.com

As for what the pros think of the Orion XTR, I have no clue. But they sound good to me.
actually i was planning on putting the 5.25 in the dash also! and mount the tweeters near the doors on the bottom. i know about the adapters that sells them on the jeep forum and he's developing brackets for tweeters too. i'm just wondering if my headunit will be ok with the speakers i'm considering. i think they'll be fine
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actually i was planning on putting the 5.25 in the dash also! and mount the tweeters near the doors on the bottom. i know about the adapters that sells them on the jeep forum and he's developing brackets for tweeters too. i'm just wondering if my headunit will be ok with the speakers i'm considering. i think they'll be fine
Gotcha.

Well, if you do decide to add an amp, this one is very small and cheap.

Amazon.com: Sound Storm Laboratories EV4.400 400-Watt 4-Channel Power Amplifier with High/Low Crossover: Car Electronics

once I get it in I can give you a review of it. lol

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