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Old 06-25-2010, 05:55 PM   #1
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New speakers sound bad, what am I doing wrong?

I installed 4 new PYLE blue label speakers in my Jeep this week. The ones on the sound bar sound worse than my stock ones. Is it possible that I have the wires crossed? These are 200w each and should work well with my new JVC stereo. I hope you guys have some ideas! Thanks!

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Old 06-25-2010, 06:14 PM   #2
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Well IMO pyle is kinda a cheap speaker. It wouldnt hurt to check and make sure wires arent backwards but even with that it shouldnt make it sound that bad it would just put them outta phase but like i said just IMO but good luck

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Old 06-26-2010, 08:22 AM   #3
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Can you describe 'bad'? What does it sound like? Does it rattle, sound muffled, etc...
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Old 06-26-2010, 08:27 AM   #4
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Are they wired directly to your head unit or did you run new wiring?
Did your OEM unit have a built in amp?
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would need a little more info. as stated above whats "bad", what all did you change and/or do when you replace speakers. as in did you replace radio as well add a amp remove one etc etc
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:24 AM   #6
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I used the existing wires that are now connected to my proffesionaly installed JVC head unit. I think that I fixed it for the most part by using the eq. It sounds much better. It was a muffled sound that sounded horrible with any base going to it at all. I'll try it for a while.
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almost sounds like they are distorting. mids & highs are not made to handle any bass frequency (below 100htz), not matter what a company claims. the higher you turn up the volume on a radio the more distortion you add and the more bass you add the quicker it will happen. it's bad in a jeep bc we get so much road noise that hides it then next thing u know speakers are dead.

if it's something where you want more volume i would look into some bettwe quality speakers & add a amp. that allows you to keep it clean @ higher volumes. doesn't need to be anything crazy price wise but radio can only do so much since they are basically about 17-20w rms...which is very low power.

replacing radio doesnt add much more power than a factory. and replacing speakers adds more highs than volume, bc of tweeter, when on a factory/aftermarket radio. but remember the radio still powers them no matter how much power the speakers can handle they are only getting what a radio can put out. you can get a 100w rms speaker radio will still only put 17-20w rms to it.

hope that helps some & makes since..lol
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:45 AM   #8
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Honestly... it's probably the company. I ordered a head unit from them and plugged my ipod shuffle into the usb spot right when i installed it to see if it worked, it fried the whole thing. Smoke started pouring out.
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Old 06-27-2010, 04:13 PM   #9
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those speakers are just as bad if not worse than sony speakers. factory speakers sound better than those paper weights you bought
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I replaced my speakers too with sony explode(yeah i know sony)and a jvc radio and i did'nt think it made a whole lot of difference either except for crisper highs and better mids. So i went ahead and put a couple of kicker 10" subs in the back and imo that's where your gonna see a difference if your looking for any bass and you don't want to run new wires to the speakers in the sound bar
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:21 AM   #11
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hey, check your ground on your head unit... in my 06 eclipse gt my pioneer head unit was grounded to a thin piece of sheet metal, the result was a light distortion coming from the speakers.... i changed the ground to a nice thick piece of metal and the problem was solved....
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I'm thinking about switching to some Infinity Kappas or Alpine speakers. Which would you guys prefer? I've read mixed reviews.
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Will the other four speakers fit in my 01' Wrangler? I read that the 6.5's work but is there drilling necessary? I thought my Jeep only has the sound bar, console, and two front speakers? Are there some tweeters that I'm not aware of in the Jeep?

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Old 07-07-2010, 03:21 PM   #15
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Is there a big difference in sound from the 5 1/4 to the 6.5?
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:38 PM   #16
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yes you can fit the 6.5's infinity's, not too sure about other brands but drilling the holes is easy. as for sound, the 6.5's will have a little more bass but the nicer speakers on the market are not made to hit most of the lows this way you can crank up the volume with very little to no distortion.
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Old 07-07-2010, 04:55 PM   #17
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I'm fine with the 5 1/4 Infinity speakers if the difference is not major. Thanks for all of the helpful information! If there is no drilling with the Infinity's then it is a no brainer!
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I'm in the process of similar speaker issues. All of the sudden, what I thought was a problem with my rear speakers turned into eventually replacing the head unit as well as the rear speakers. I put in a Sony (I get the impression that Sony isn't very popular around here) DSX-S100 head unit and Polk db521 rear speaker and still thought the sound wasn't what it should be. After reading more threads here I realized something, I had a subwoofer in the console, never knew it was there! Turns out, the sub is blown and all the distortion I've been hearing was coming from that. I went ahead and disconnected the sub for now and the remaining four speaker sound fine. I plan on replacing the sub in the near future...One thing at a time. In the end, my guess is the factory head unit and rear speakers were probably just fine. I think it was the sub all along.
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you would be surprised at the difference in quality if you swap out that paper weight and put in a nice head unit. those speakers are a nice entry level speaker and im sure that once you get a real headunit in there you might want to go up a class with the speakers. find what you like on crutchfield that is $20-$35 over your price range and than go to ebay and get them for a much better price.
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Jma, in my experience 2ohm speaker sets tend to make the deck run hot and some won't last long. What's special about these?

Edit: Heh, found this on their web site. Interesting.
True Four Ohms— All Kappa speakers feature two ohm voice coils. Original factory-installed speaker wiring in many cars is 18-22 gauge. This wire, and heating in the voice coil when power is applied, increase the impedance “seen” by the amplifier or head unit. The impedance of Kappa Speakers has been adjusted to compensate for this increase and can be safely driven by any head unit.
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Old 08-07-2010, 06:29 PM   #21
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with lower ohms you have the more power they can efficiently run on, that and the 93db sensitivity plays a good part in the picture, it gives the speaker more clarity throughout the power and frequency range. adding bigger gauge speaker wire will keep your head unit cooler, any time you upgrade to a set of speakers that call for a higher power need the larger wires allow the power to flow faster, smaller wires hold back the power sent from the headunit and cause the headunit to get hot
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Old 08-08-2010, 12:26 AM   #22
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The real problem is the the head unit is rated at 4 ohms max load not two. So what your doing is doubling the power output of the headunit and it prolly doesn't like that. And for the record, I've never ran larger speaker wire when powering with a head unit. In fact in my DD I have an amp on the factory wires going into the doors. I've done 100's this way with no issues....unless..its a huge amp.
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Don't overlook the speaker's "Sensitivity" rating that few car stereo sales people understand. Look on the speaker specifications, it could be that the Sensitivity rating of those Pyle speakers is too low to work well without more power from an aux amplifier to push them. If their Sensitivity isn't over 90 dB, especially if it's down in the mid-eighties, that' likely the problem.

For stock head units that don't put out a lot of power, you need to run speakers with a high Sensitivity rating like 91 or 92 dB so the stock head unit has enough power to drive them cleanly. Polk is one brand of speaker that is noted for having a higher Sensitivity rating that is suitable for a head unit without an external auxiliary amplifier.

Avoid any speaker that touts a big power rating, that's a good clear warning that they need more power to drive them fully.
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Ahh Polk audio....went downhill, bought by momo wheels, then bought by DEI...just like all the other hasbeens lol
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There is no drilling with most 6.5" replacement speakers seeing how they are built for direct replacements. Rockford Fosgate, JL Audio and Orion 6.5" speakers all do not require any drilling.
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I saw your problem with the 2nd or 3rd word of your post lol...PYLE...lol I kid I kid

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