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Old 02-18-2014, 01:26 PM   #1
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RAQ radio for the TJ

So I finally gave up on the JK radio in a TJ as the whole CANBUS system is not penetrable (at least not at my level). So I have done some research and the RAQ will work in a non CANBUS system. I ordered the wiring harness to adapt from my 98 TJ to the RAQ radio. It even comes with the antenna adapter. Wiring harness was around $13 shipped and I found a steal on the radio for $50 at a local Junk yard today. If I get the wiring harness today I will begin the install and update here with pictures and part numbers. I will document as I go, just want to see if there is much interest before I put a whole lot of work into the documentation and write up. Let me know what you all think and if you would like to see the progress.
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Well YAY!! The harness was in the mail box when I got home so I put it together and did the few small cuts required on the radio itself and a few on my jeep and it fits like a glove and works like a champ. Just need to do some modification to my bezel now so I can get that back on then I will be all good to go.
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OK so after much research I found that the only style of these radios that will work in a TJ (due to the CANBUS system) is this one particular model with the code of RAQ. If my picture was more clear you could see to the left of the tuner knob and to the bottom right of the AM/FM button is where you will find this code. This is the very informitaive source I used in helping me figure all this out The Chrysler-Huntsville RAQ CD Stereo Head Unit: Repair Guide

the wiring harness I ordered and used was this "old to new style factory radio stereo install wire harness adapter #82207541" link for ebay: Old to New Style Factory Radio Stereo Install Wire Harness Adapter 82207541 | eBay

The harness does come in two sepersate pieces and you will need to wire them together. You will notice that the connector that goes into the RAQ radio has two(2) yellow wires as well as two (2) black wires. Both of the yellow wires connect to the one yellow wire on the TJ style connector, and both of the black wires need to be hooked to a ground. I found a brown wire in the RAQ side harness that did not connect anywhere on the TJ side so I just taped it up. Simply match the rest of the colors and connect by which ever means you feel is most suitable (solder, butt connectors, wire to wire etc.).

The radio is a very tight fit into the hole on the TJ. I did not take pics but suppose I could if it would help someone but this is what I did: On the bottom of the radio (left and right sides) there are two bolt holes that I used a dremel to cut off, just simply cut the square off where the bolt hole is, it is all plastic and will not damage the radio in anyway, there are also two aligning pegs that also need to be cut off. I don't remember the exact location of them but they are pretty obvious and need to be cut off as well. Secondly on the inside of the TJ radio opening you will notice that on the top and bottom in all four corners there is a raised portion of the plastic. I simply used my dremel with a grinding/cutoff wheel and ground those areas down flat. I plugged in the harness to the vehicle side, plugged in the antenna to the vehicle side, then hooked both to the radio. Even with the key in the off position you will hear the CD changer start cycling. I let it go through it's complete cycle before turning it on for the first time. After it was done, i powered it up and everything worked wonderfully.

This particular stereo will let you eject cd's even with the ignition in the off position. You can not load them though only eject them. I am on a 24 hour duty shift today so I will not have the chance to work on the bezel but that is the plan for tomorrow. I will likely run to the junkyard tomorrow and grab the center bezel from an 06 TJ and hack that one up so that I can also get the added 12volt power source, as the newer ones have two instead of one. It will also give me the option for four rocker switches instead of the three spots I have now (not that I am even using the other two I have now), it's just nice to have the option.

Any questions or advice thus far feel free to chime in or ask.
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Well I got me a few hours of sleep then tackled the cutting of the bezel. Not as clean as I wanted it for the first cut but it's in and looks pretty good IMO. Just had to trim a little around where the volume and tuner knob are then had to cut the upper piece that is right under the vents. I am happy with it and glad I decided to tackle this project.
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Went and got a piece of door edge guard and put over the cut out. All in all I am completely happy with the install now.
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Bumping back to the top for the member that sent the PM asking about it. Let me know if you have any further questions.
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How did you enjoying the radio this summer? Still happy with it?
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How did you enjoying the radio this summer? Still happy with it?
absolutely 100%. Couldn't be happier.
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Picked up a working RAQ from an 06 PT cruiser for $18

Funny thing was it had a factory looking harness plug in the changer port but it only had the three audio wires all other ports empty

Tried to see where it went but the three wires went into a bigger harness in back of dash

Would that have been for an aux input where a VES or SAT radio would have gone in

If so is it really that simple to add and aux input

Most aftermarket have several more wires to emulate a changer

I'll add a pic of the three wire plug as I cut it off and kept it with the radio
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that is for the VES. Here is a good site www.allpar.com/stereo/RAQ/
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I found some harness pin outs
Apparently that 10 pin harness an use 9 of the pins
Those three are the left right and ground for sat radio audio in
Three others are for VES audio in l r and grnd
Three others for VES audio out left right and ground

I guess all control is via the bus not that run it that 10 pin plug

So no can bus required but still this radio can use one

One last question on the main radio plug I cut off with radio two wires on one end are bat plus and two on other end are ground but no wire where the ignition/accessory power would go

Your post implies the radio goes on and off with ignition if you wire the pin just inside of bat power to ign power is that correct?
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I found some harness pin outs Apparently that 10 pin harness an use 9 of the pins Those three are the left right and ground for sat radio audio in Three others are for VES audio in l r and grnd Three others for VES audio out left right and ground I guess all control is via the bus not that run it that 10 pin plug So no can bus required but still this radio can use one One last question on the main radio plug I cut off with radio two wires on one end are bat plus and two on other end are ground but no wire where the ignition/accessory power would go Your post implies the radio goes on and off with ignition if you wire the pin just inside of bat power to ign power is that correct?
I did not use a cut off plug. I ordered the harness adapter I have linked above in the beginning and that made it very simple to install.
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Your experience and information is appreciated my concern if using a harness designed for adapting the 90s harness to prior generation oval faced head units of 2000-2004 on a newer can bus radio results in supplying power to radio pins never intended to receive power such as when you send dash illumination power from the 98 harness into a pin on the new radio never intended to get power applied to it as the oval faced radio pin out is similar but with differences

Now as it is an unused pin probably ok as your experience showed

No doubt if worked ok for you just seams a little risky for the first guy who tries it

Just to verify you radio stores presets but goes off as a radio when key turned to off and does not place excessive drain on your battery?
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Just to verify you radio stores presets but goes off as a radio when key turned to off and does not place excessive drain on your battery?
that is correct. Works exactly as the factory radio should and no battery drain at all.
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Your experience and information is appreciated my concern if using a harness designed for adapting the 90s harness to prior generation oval faced head units of 2000-2004 on a newer can bus radio results in supplying power to radio pins never intended to receive power such as when you send dash illumination power from the 98 harness into a pin on the new radio never intended to get power applied to it as the oval faced radio pin out is similar but with differences Now as it is an unused pin probably ok as your experience showed No doubt if worked ok for you just seams a little risky for the first guy who tries it Just to verify you radio stores presets but goes off as a radio when key turned to off and does not place excessive drain on your battery?
ever try your radio out?
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Working fine still messing with can bus to try to get it to communicate with oem satellite receiver

It sees it briefly but so far only briefly thinking next add a couple 120. Ohm resistors across bus wires one at radio and one at satellite box

Then if still not working will bench test adding TIPM and then maybe cluster

Only care as if it stays in satellite mode would be a good aux input
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Working fine still messing with can bus to try to get it to communicate with oem satellite receiver It sees it briefly but so far only briefly thinking next add a couple 120. Ohm resistors across bus wires one at radio and one at satellite box Then if still not working will bench test adding TIPM and then maybe cluster Only care as if it stays in satellite mode would be a good aux input
sounds interesting. I installed the parrot mki9100 Bluetooth kit and use that to stream through the radio. My wife's car has Sirius radio so I just pay $4 a month extra for the Sirius XM internet radio and stream that from my phone through the radio.

That is the beauty of the RAQ model.... It can use CANBUS but does not require it!
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@buckbee23 here is the thread I mentioned in PM

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