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Old 04-24-2010, 04:30 PM   #61
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Thumbs up On the SUPER Cheap

I picked up a Road Master bass tube from Big Lots the other day for $10, I think Walmart carries them too. I took the sub out of the tube and it fit right in the where the stock sub was. I did have to redrill out holes for it since those didn't line up but that took about 30 seconds to do. Took it out and hooked it all back up and it sounds better then the stock one did by far. It's no show winning system but that's not how I roll, it works and it was cheap!!!

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Walmart Roadmaster 6.5" BassBlaster Subwoofer System Customer Ratings & Reviews - Top & Best Rated Products

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Old 05-16-2010, 04:36 PM   #62
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Hey all, my TJ's factory sub is blown and I'm about to try this replacement. One question, whats the difference between the Pyramid WX65X vs the PW677X ? I've seen both used to replace these stock subs.

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Go with the WX65X...it's a 6 1/2" subwoofer whereas it appears the PW677X is a 6".

It's also rated 4/5 on PartsExpress' website...which isn't bad at all.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:18 AM   #64
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I removed my blown speaker a few years ago and I've been contemplating on putting something else in. I've been reading several threads about replacement speakers, lot's of good info. A few questions.

I think there are four wires originally, brown/gray/red/black? right or wrong?

What is the pinout or hookup for the wires. Are they two separate channels?
I'd like to replace with a DVC speaker, thinking about the CompVL by Kicker, but can't find any info on if it's a DVC or not. I found a post by Fish (A member here) about wiring one up but something didn't seem right.
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Old 06-19-2010, 07:09 PM   #65
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Getting ready to do the Elemental Designs e3.6 mod this week, but I never saw the follow up posts that Handyandy was referring to (i.e. installation, wiring photos).

Any chance this was posted elsewhere, so I can get a sense for where to make the necessary connections?

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Old 06-24-2010, 06:07 AM   #66
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Wasn't really able to get any follow-up input, so I did the install last night. Getting the e3.6 into the stock enclosure required a bit more Dremel work than I had anticipated, and it isn't a direct swap size-wise, though it is close enough to get the job done.

Wiring was accomplished in the same configuration as I found on the stock sub, and I didn't seem to have any troubles with it. I did experiment with a couple of other configurations, just to be sure, but went back to duplicating the connections I had photographed prior to removing the old unit.

With a stock head unit, it takes a bit of playing around with the EQ and balance/fade to get the sound right, but there is no question that the e3.6 is light years head of the stock sub -- doubly so, in my case, since I had one of the typical "blown lip all the way around" factory units.

I also changed the sound bar and front panel speakers, and the net result is much clearer, more lifelike sound. The "muddy" sound associated with the old sub is gone, of course, and the e3.6 pumps out far more taut, clean bass than I was expecting from a factory amp arrangement.

To all appearances, the system is bone-stock, but even without additional amplification, this was/is money well spent. The sub was something like $39, and worth every penny. Build quality and performance are both just superb. Granted, this is a working vehicle and not a showpiece for premium car audio, but I'm pleased with the results.

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Good to hear all went well...sorry i didn't see this post and chime in earlier although I don't recall if I posted any install photos aside from just a couple quick shots to show fitment.
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I'm in the process of putting in a Kicker CompVT 6.5 as a replacement. Installation is straight forward after reading several threads here. There are many good members here who have contributed their experiences with detailed writings and pictures.
Naturally I had to shave the plastic fins down located inside the speaker/amp enclosure. I never could get my factory amp to work with the speaker no matter what wiring config I used, so either the factory amp is dead or the way it is hooked up to the aftermarket stereo wont work with the Kicker. Others have gotten it to work so it is possible. The fuse was good. signal going in was there, just nothing out.
I simply disconnected the wiring harness and used a tie wrap to hold the wires in place so they are not slapping around in the enclosure.
I've got the speaker installed and the enclosure back together. All was tested prior to assembly and after assembly. I'm going to use a an aftermarket AMP to power the kicker, so I've still got to locate a suitable location to install it and run wires, but just a rough test the little kicker really has some thump.
Like all speaker/amp/stereo installs, there's a fine line of what sounds good verses not loud enough or too much power causing distortion/rattling. That will be the final step. The aftermarket AMP is some piece of crap that was given to me by someone and I managed to repair it, so it was free. Some off brand named Aura. I figure later I can upgrade if I need to, but it seems to suite what I need right now. I'm not looking for awesome deep base, just a more lows in my music with a little base. Only thing I don't like about it is that when it is turned off, it makes the speaker pop or thump. I've seen this with other amps and I'm not sure what to do about it, if anything can be done.

I might disassemble the unit and try some different materials inside the box itself like cotton or maybe some acoustic foam to deaden some of the sound and give it a little more low, but the enclosure really wasn't designed for that so it might not make much difference.
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i got one in my jeep as well, but when they replaced my stock headunit with an aftermarket one, it stoped working. why uthink that is? i had my old 10 in the back for quite a while but it just takes up room. if i could get the other amp/sub to work and just replace it with a better sub, ill do it and get rid of my 10 completely.
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My conversion went extremely well. after reassembly, the unit has some "thump" to it. 50 bucks for a new 2010 Kicker and a free low power amp makes a big difference. Sounds better than the OEM by far.... My son and his friends were surprised at how much base I was getting with the single speaker.
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Rouge....Thanks for the details on replacing the sub! I have an '01 with a blown sub and just put in a Kicker CVT1065. Fit like a glove. Only thing I needed to do was drill new mounting holes for the new sub. No biggie. The stock only had four screws, the kicker has 8, and none of them line up with the factory holes. Your instructions on getting the console out were right on!
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I am glad to see that my experiment in curiosity has helped so many of you guys and ladies save money! Sorry I have not been around much lately as there have been many changes in my life lately, but I hope to hang out a bit more from time to time now.

My speaker install took place in January of this year, and it is still working flawlessly! Don't ever let anyone tell you that you cannot do something when you put your mind to it; sometimes you just got to know where to go for some guidance.

The Wrangler Forum is the best guidance you are going to find for your Jeep!

Take care guys, and thanks again for all of the support!
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Rouge....Thanks for the details on replacing the sub! I have an '01 with a blown sub and just put in a Kicker CVT1065. Fit like a glove. Only thing I needed to do was drill new mounting holes for the new sub. No biggie. The stock only had four screws, the kicker has 8, and none of them line up with the factory holes. Your instructions on getting the console out were right on!
Zamboni, did you use the factory amp or an after market one?
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I guess now Zamboni can fix his Jeep profile from saying "dead sub" to "fixed sub"
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travcoop1 - I still have the factory amp installed. Aftermarket will be the next adventure.
MbRich - Jeep profile has been updated!
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does anyone know what size the factory sub is in the center console of a 2004 Rubicon? I'd like to replace my busted one.
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Nice! Mine never had a sub, but it has the sub console.... Might have to do this.
Yeah, it was a fairly easy and inexpensive mod. If anyone needs help with it, please feel free to ask. I think there may be a few forums out there on it as well. It is more than enough for me, but for those who love the strong base it may not be sufficient. Then again, most folks with Jeeps I know do not have a large amp with a back full of speakers...

I was just amazed at the quality of a $13 subwoofer!!

Hey, InfernoGirl, my '02 looks like your '01! Sienna Pearl!!!
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Old 08-16-2010, 10:45 AM   #78
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Hey all,

I have a brand new Kicker 10CVT 6.5" Subwoofer I didn't use. Brand new in the box. I'll sell it for the first $50 SHIPPED IN USA!

Let me know travcoop1@gmail.com
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Jeepers sub for round 15 bucks on amazon now

Amazon.com: Pyramid WX65X 6.5-Inch High Power White Injected P.P. Cone Woofer: Automotive

$8.87 + $7.21 shipping
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I intend to get one of these. Less than $21 delivered.

Amazon.com: Goldwood GW-406D 6-1/2" Poly DVC Subwoofer Shielded: Electronics

Dual VC and 2 ohm. A little dremel work on the back of the enclosure and also has reviews from other TJ and LJ owners.
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Great info everyone, i ust have a few questions and concerns. i have a 03 Rubicon, the center sub started to sound blown then just on day quit. i plan on replacing it just how every one has described, but, does it sound like the amp is gone as well? Also i dont have a great idea about the wireing when connecting the new sub. if anyone possibly could help me out it would be awesome.

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I did do the Pyramid replacement speaker. It works great. Here's what I am thinking for the future though....

My aftermarket stereo has a preout for a subwoofer with hi and low pass filters. I am thinking about getting the 6.5" Kicker subwoofer with the single coil but I am also going to get a small but more powerful amp for it. With some coaxing, I think an amp can be installed into the little plastic box. I'll run new lines from the deck to the amp and from the amp to the new Sub. Its a cleaner neater setup than the factory wiring harness crap that's going on in the center console.
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InfernoGirl, I will post some pics later today!

Jeepmanct, we can walk through this install with no problems sir. Note that this was in my 2002 Wrangler, so your Jeep may be a bit different. You can grab a Haynes manual for about $18 at Autozone to walk you through removing body parts like the console.

1-Get yourself and your tools ready (flat screwdriver, phillips screwdriver, 10mm socket wrench and extension, a couple of torx bits, dremel, drill, bits, etc.; lock your dog in her kennel with food and water so that she does not terrorize you while you are trying to concentrate; plenty of COFFEE).Make certain we are in Park and the parking break is on for safety you know! Turn on some good music on the shop radio and sip some coffee.

2-I removed my passenger door and slid the passenger seat fully to the rear in full tilt to give me more room to work.

3-Remove those rubber cup holder liners in front of the console and in the rear. This should expose two bolts in the rear cupholder and one in the front.

4-Remove front bolt (10mm socket) and rear two bolts (torx 30).

5-Carefully work console out from under front tabs (plastic tabs will break so be careful) of shifter cover and work it out and ease it over into passenger seat (there is a wiring harness attached to it that we will remove next).

6-Unhook electrical harness by sliding red lock to the side and unplugging by pressing white tab. Study it for a minute so that you understand how it works without breaking it.

7-Once the harness is unhooked, the console should slide right out of the vehicle.

8-Take it to your workbench and empty the junk out of the top of it (old granola bars, pens, pencils, old insurance cards, and the pocket change).

9-Look inside console from the top and find two screws, remove them both, I think they are phillips head.

10-Flip console over and study how those shiny gold metal brackets are held in place by the plastic posts. There are two silver "star" washers pressed onto the posts holding tension on the brackets. They have to be CAREFULLY removed, or we will break the plastic posts. Sip some coffee here, and take a deep breath as you need a ton of patience here. Gently pry the tabs of the star washers back with a small flathead screwdriver and needlenose pliers to remove them. Don't force them or you WILL break those plastic posts.

11-Once the star washers are removed, flatten them back out as we have to reuse them; I just pinched them with my plilers to flatten them out again; set them to the side and take a deep breath. Almost there!

12-Lay the console on the side with speaker up, and remove the three screws holding the enclosure in place; these are phillips head as well.

13-Slide speaker/amp enclosure out of the center console. Get some cleaner and carefully clean out the inside of the console and the outside of the enclosure. My Jeep's previous owner had a major soda spill that was all over everything here...

14-Remove the old subwoofer by using a torx 15 bit; there are four torx screws holding it in. Also get a flathead screwdriver and pry it out because it is held in place with sticky tape. Do not damage wiring harness here! Once removed, examine factory subwoofer and marvel at the huge tear around the cone = BLOWN!

15-Look inside of enclosure and you will see some fins molded into the plastic just underneath where the speaker mounts; the central part has a semi circle "C" type look to it. These will have to be trimmed down some so that our new Pyramid will fit flush in the enclosure. Test fit new sub carefully to see this. Use caution with new sub as we don't want to damage its cone!

16-Carefully trim these fins down without cutting any wires. I used a dremel tool with a heavy duty cutting disc. Trim a small amount, clean it out with a shop vac, and test fit the new sub. Once it fits flush we are good!

17-Examine wiring harness and determine which wire is positive and which is negative; on my 2002 Jeep, the brown is positive, and the gray is negative. We will only use one set as we have a single coil sub as opposed to the factory unit's dual voice coil setup. This will change on certain year model's I am sure. A search on Google or a call to a local speaker shop may help you determine this. I had to solder a smaller connector on one of my wires to get it to fit snugly on the Pyramid, but that was no problem. I cut the connectors off of the unused wires and taped them with electrical tape to the main harness so there would be no shorts.

18-Once wired, check again to make sure you hooked it up properly, and test the unit by laying console in passenger seat and reconnecting harness to make sure it works. Be careful as the speaker is not fully mounted yet and you don't want to damage it!

19-Once we ensure it works, we need to mount it in the enclosure. Make sure the wires are routed with no interference, and lay your new sub in the enclosure. The mounting holes will not align so we need to drill new ones. Use a 3/32" bit (I think; compare it to the screws and make sure) to drill four new mounting holes using caution around the new sub; protect that sub with your hand as you don't want to run a drill bit through that cone!!!

20-Remove speaker and blow out any plastic debris.

21-Install speaker making sure wiring is connected properly, and routed properly; tighten four mounting screws (T15) only until snug. We are working in plastic and don't want to strip it out!! Be CAREFUL here!!

22-Sip more coffee and admire your pretty new speaker!

23-Reinstall enclosure into center console carefully while protecting speaker from damage. Reinstall star washers onto plastic posts; reinstall three screws on grille side of console; reinstall two screws in tray on top inside of console. Tighten only to snug, don't overtighten!

24-Reinstall center console into Jeep; remember to hook up harness and fasten red safety fastener on connector. Careful not to break any tabs here! Reinstall 10mm bolt in front cupholder, torx 30 bolts in rear (2) cupholder, and replace rubber cupholder liners.

25-Check your work and make sure no parts/fasteners are left out. Clean up tools and mess. Sip coffee.

26-Turn on radio and enjoy the no fuzzing blown speaker sound.

Again note that you are not installing an aftermarker amp with this unit so you are not driving it to its fullest potential with the factory mini amp, but it will sound 110% better than the blown factory unit, and we ARE on a budget with this project!!

Seriously, I hope this helps! Let me know how it works, and please ask any questions if you have them!
Thank You so much, everything went great and saved me over $400.00 from what the dealer wanted
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thanks rogue for this awesome post.. helped out tremendously, especially the step by step instructions. by carefully following them, i was able to do the job in about 2 hours. the sub sounds awesome for $20 , thanks again
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I bought my '01 in January, fell in love with it immediately and have loved it ever since. Sound quality was lacking though. I decided to replace the front and rear speakers with the ones from Quadratech, easy 15 minute job, sounded better, but still a distinct rattle or vibration which I isolated to the center console. I had no idea there was a subwoofer there. After struggling to get it out and seeing the complete cone separation, I did a search here on the subject. I should have searched this a day before! Great post! This process started last Friday, I searched Friday night, ordered the Pyramid Friday night, shipped Saturday, received and installed yesterday (Wednesday). What a difference! Best $22 (including shipping from Amazon) I ever spent. Now I can actually HEAR the music when I'm going down the highway! Thanks for the great step-by-step, especially the tip on cutting down the fins in the assembly. I'm not sure I would have figured that out without settling for a smaller speaker.
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I've been looking for a good replacement that hits a little harder to. Mine ripped out all around the cone but i just pus some permatex on it and put the stock cover back on. Its still holding up and its been a couple months
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Rouge, You're the MAN! I followed your instructions to replace the sub in my 2001 Wrangler Sport. It sounds great!
That Pyramid sub from Parts Express looks and sounds better than the original.
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subwoofer question

I'm totally new to jeeps with a 2003 wrangler sport i picked up from my brother. So with that in mind i want to ask you all if some jeep wranglers have come with a subwoofer underneath the glove box?

There is a section under the glove box that has a blue and blue w/white stripe wire (the sub remote control wires) running to it in the shape of a subwoofer. I did my own system on my old blazer over 7 years ago so my audio expertise has faded sadly enough.

I believe it is the 4 speaker set up but i'm curious to know if those have a subwoofer other than the center console subwoofer. This one does NOT have a center console sub. Believe me i checked

Before I replaced the stock radio with my aftermarket radio i heard the nasty sound that blown out speakers and subs make. However I heard this from around the glove box speaker. Now, after replacing the radio and not reconnecting the blue sub wires to the harness the blown speaker sound is no more. I'm convinced it has one but cannot figure out how to remove this enclosure under the glove box.

Any help is appreciated. I miss having bass when listening to music and i don't want to spend $100+ for a new amp and sub and building an enclosure.
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Thanks, Rouge! I bought the Pyramid sub from Amazon and installed it last night. I've been without the sub for 2 years. When the original blew, I couldn't find anything locally that would fit and the dealer wanted like $400 for the whole console. This one cost me only $14!
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Sorry guys, I have been off the WF for a while. This mod is a cheap and good fix for a busted sub; mine is still going strong at a little over a year now. I am glad to hear that it worked well for so many folks. A lot of the wiring is trial and error due to variance in year models. Also, keep in mind this is not a competition grade conversion; you will need to add an amp and better speakers for that. Take care guys! Glad I could help a few folks; makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside!

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