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Old 11-05-2013, 09:45 PM   #1
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Replacing Stock Speakers/Subwoofer

Alright so I am beginning to look into replacing the speakers and factory subwoofer in my 2013 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. I don't really know where to start or what speakers are decent for Jeeps so I thought I would post here.

Model: 2013 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
Budget: Max at about 400-500ish dollars
Items Needed: (To start) Roll bar speakers, subwoofer, amp?

I am hoping to fit a subwoofer at the least in the factory casing in place of the Alpine stock sub rather than putting a box in my trunk or mounting it elsewhere.

Any and all advice, criticism, or comments are encouraged (I'm new here )

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Old 11-05-2013, 09:52 PM   #2
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Speaker size and configuration? I would go for some powerful speakers, upgraded front and rear, then upgrade the subwoofer depending on the size of it. This should finish your budget.

A decent amp is another separate consideration. The standard 6 3/4" stock console subwoofer is a severely limiting factor, since you want your sub to be five times as powerful as your speakers. This is because subs draw a lot of power. You can get 100watt speakers, but then you want a 500watt sub. Most of the console subs can only handle 150watts. You will barely hear it over the powerful driven speakers. It just won't be that cheap to do.

That is, if you are talking about wanting more volume.

It also depends on your current speaker configuration and locations. Is it a console sub? I'm thinking you could mount two cargo side molded 10" subwoofers, and eliminate the tiny console subwoofer. But, you are probably talking about $800 for the subs alone. You can probably find someone to fabricate them for you at a lot less cost. Or, the wooden boxes for your year, might be available somewhere. I'm thinking about the molded custom subwoofer boxes that would look and sound awesome. But, they aren't cheap. Then, you add a five channel amp too, at anywhere between $150-$500. Power up a system like that and you will "Rock the Casbah".

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Old 11-05-2013, 09:57 PM   #3
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Looking to fit 6 1/2's in the roll bar and possible an 8" sub in the factory enclosure. In terms of configuration I don't exactly know what you mean.
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Looking to fit 6 1/2's in the roll bar and possible an 8" sub in the factory enclosure. In terms of configuration I don't exactly know what you mean.
Are your front speakers components or coaxials? This is the configuration. And what are your standard speaker sizes? Do you have standard 5.25 coaxials or 6.5 stock coaxials in the sound bar? Or, do you have components all around?

What is the size of your stock sub? Is it in the console?

All of these things need to be determined before knowing if modifications are neccessary.
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Old 11-05-2013, 10:59 PM   #5
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Whoops your reply only showed the first sentence when I replied. Anyways, I have the stock 6.5 coaxials in the roll bar (haven't messed with those yet) (also the same in the front on the passenger and driver side) and the sub is located in the trunk (6 3/4")(located in a factory stock casing). I do not think there is anything in the center console but I can double check on that. Two tweeters are on the front dash (one on each side) but other than that I think that's about it. Would I be better off springing for a 3 or 4 channel amp to deal with just the roll bar and subwoofer, or going all out with a 5 channel to just cover the entire system? I think I'm definitely looking to increase the bass with a better subwoofer as well as some higher quality speakers, but it doesn't need to be top of the line. If I can find a way to fit a sub in the factory enclosure that would be ideal (as I can put the amp somewhere else and I still retain my trunk space)
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:13 PM   #6
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According to my research, the front and rear speakers are indeed 6.5. The front ones are components, where the tweeter and mid-range/woofer are separated. The two on the left side would be the front left channel, and the two on the right would be the front right channel.

For the speakers, I would go with something like the CDT CL-61 CV. They are convertible speakers, so you can use the same pairs in the front and the back.
They are awesome speakers, I have them, and they are rated at 160watts RMS.
(I have the 5.25 version, with the Alpine PDX-V9)
Those speakers can handle most any commercial amp. They can handle anything in the 100-150RMS range easily, such as the Alpine PDX-V9. The Alpine amps are probably the best amps on the market. But, they aren't cheap. The Power Acoustik Gothic Series Amp is similar and cheaper. I had that one too, and it was a good amp. Both amps put out basically the same power. That being 100wattsx4 + 500watts sub.

If you can post pictures of the sub enclosure and the amp location, we can discuss suggestions for the upgrade of those components, but basically the amp is already done. Here are links for compatible good amps and the speakers.

Speakers
CL 61 CV

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Alpine PDX-V9 1600W 5 Channel Class D PDX Series Car Audio Amplifier

Power Acoustik GT5-2500 2500W 5 Channel Class AB Gothic Car Amplifier
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:28 PM   #7
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Supposedly the Alpine PDX-V9 will fit into the original amp location.

In other threads they talk about using the Polk speakers for the upgrade, which cost over one hundred dollars more than the CDT speakers, and are rated with less handling capacity. Polks=100-120WattsRMS, CDT's=160watts RMS. The CDT's cost less and have better handling capacity.

According to other 2013 JK users, the stock subwoofer is 8". Some people are using the Kicker and some the Polk as an upgrade. The problem is that the single stock subwoofer is a limiting factor. It can only take 200wattsRMS, even after a reasonable upgrade. Basically, you need two of them, to really take advantage of the Alpine PDX-V9's subwoofer power. Here are some links to research about the subwoofer upgrade.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/the...jk-239893.html

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dir...nt-145997.html
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Thank you so much for your help so far!

I will post pictures soon of the current subwoofer enclosure, but to be honest, I have no clue where the factory amp is located. I'm going to do a bit of research on that. Assuming I went with the aftermarket amp, would I need to remove the factory one to wire the entire system to or how would I go about that?

EDIT: Amp under the steering wheel. Now I just need to figure out if I can fit an aftermarket one in it's place or how I go from there.
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Thank you so much for your help so far!

I will post pictures soon of the current subwoofer enclousure, but to be honest, I have no clue where the factory amp is located. I'm going to do a bit of research on that. Assuming I went with the aftermarket amp, would I need to remove the factory one to wire the entire system to or how would I go about that?
I would have the amp professionally installed. Then, you can bit** about it, not being done right.

There seems to be some concern in that area. The steering controls, seem to be integrated with the HU and the amp. Research some of the other threads here, such as the one I listed above, and they may give you some good pointers. You could probably do the speakers and the sub now, yourself, and save for the amp later.
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So that means I could wire the speakers and the sub into the factory wiring/amp and not worry about the wattage being a problem? Because adding an aftermarket amp will bump up the quality of the speakers and how they sound, correct?
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So that means I could wire the speakers and the sub into the factory wiring/amp and not worry about the wattage being a problem?
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Because adding an aftermarket amp will bump up the quality of the speakers and how they sound, correct?
No. Upgrading the speakers will increase the quality of the speakers and how they sound. The aftermarket amp will increase the sound volume and make them much louder while properly powering them.

If you get those CDT's and an Alpine PDX-V9, your speaker system will be awesome. If you get two kicker 8" subs, and put one of them in a separate box somewhere, you will have enough sub power too. One sub will not be enough to take advantage of the powerful Alpine amp. You can try it with one sub, but you will have to turn down the gain for the sub on the amp. One 8" sub cannot handle 500watts.
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Thank you so much for your help so far!

EDIT: Amp under the steering wheel. Now I just need to figure out if I can fit an aftermarket one in it's place or how I go from there.
I think in the above thread the guy installed,
an Alpine PDX-V9 amp in a 2013 JK.

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