soundbar - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > General Jeep Discussions > Communications and Electronics

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 08-04-2008, 02:00 PM   #1
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 70
soundbar

i have a '98 and just bought a soundbar from quadratec. how easy is it to install the soundbar in my jeep? any splicing of wires or does it connect with an adapter like a new sterio? did my jeep have a soundbar at one time and it just got taken out?

id appreciate your help guys!

-max

maddmax91 is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 02:07 PM   #2
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 78
Quote:
Originally Posted by maddmax91 View Post
i have a '98 and just bought a soundbar from quadratec. how easy is it to install the soundbar in my jeep? any splicing of wires or does it connect with an adapter like a new sterio? did my jeep have a soundbar at one time and it just got taken out?

id appreciate your help guys!

-max
I have a 97 TJ and it came with the soundbar.If yours is a Wrangler Sport like mine, then I bet it had one originally. If thats the case, the holes have been drilled and the wiring should be there to splice to the new soundbar. If not, the mounting is pretty straight forward. But the wiring could be challenging?

AzTrailRunner is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 02:24 PM   #3
Jeeper
 
richp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pocono mountains
Posts: 1,559
I'm pretty sure that sound bar from QT is plug and play. Did you get the 6 speaker one ?
richp is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 02:43 PM   #4
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
if there was one from the factory on there than there will be a wire harness that plugs into the soundbar, not sure if the after market is a direct fit.
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 09:09 PM   #5
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 70
yeah i cant find any pre drilled holes that would indicate a soundbar being there before. and no, unfortunately not the 6 speaker, the 2 speaker 300 watt. my budget is beyond small.
maddmax91 is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 09:20 PM   #6
Jeeper
 
foxinthemudd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: oregon
Posts: 2,708
its easy to install the sound bars just read the instructions and look at the wires connecting to the head unit. I did mine in about an hour, and I have very little knowledge with electrical work. I routed the wires on the outside of the roll bar down to the floorboard, under the door and into the dash. pretty easy and straight forward install I thought. I would look into ebay for future refrence the soundbars on there are just as good of quality for really a lower price. the only difference and what I'm going to be dong is replacing the speakers with better ones. good luck! IM me if you need any further help.
__________________
Keepin the peace.

The difference between sport and combat is that in combat you bury the one who comes in second.

THANK YOU VETS!
foxinthemudd is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 09:51 PM   #7
Jeeper
 
spanky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: sl,ut
Posts: 933
whoa! 6 speaker? do those sound good? cant imagine a stock head unit putting out anywhere near enough power to those 6 speakers along with the 2 up front.
__________________
2000 TJ
Dana 44 Front 60 Rear
Stroked 4.9L
TeraFlex - LCG Max Kit, SYE, 2-Low Kit, High Steer Kit w HD Tie Rod, Dual Rate S/T Sway Bar
Warn Winch
FAB Tech Front Bumper
Poison Spider - Fenders, Roll Cage
37x12.50x17 Pro Comp Mud on 17" Pro Comp Steels

Too much more to list....
spanky is offline   Quote
Old 08-04-2008, 11:44 PM   #8
Jeeper
 
foxinthemudd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: oregon
Posts: 2,708
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky View Post
whoa! 6 speaker? do those sound good? cant imagine a stock head unit putting out anywhere near enough power to those 6 speakers along with the 2 up front.
no difference between the 6 and two.
__________________
Keepin the peace.

The difference between sport and combat is that in combat you bury the one who comes in second.

THANK YOU VETS!
foxinthemudd is offline   Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 08:39 AM   #9
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
when i added my infinity kappa perfects into the sound bar i replaced the speaker wire and ran it under the roll bar padding on the passenger side, its much easier to run the speaker wire behind the glove box than it is to run it under the driver side dash.
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 03:00 PM   #10
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
here are some pictures of how i ran my wires.

this is from behind the glovebox
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w.../govewires.jpg

this is what i used along with zipties to run the wires on the passanger side
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...stickiepad.jpg

this is what it lookes like
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...rsidewires.jpg

and the rollbar padding unzipped
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w...llbarwires.jpg

the end result
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/jma20a/both.jpg
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 03:54 PM   #11
Jeeper
 
4.0l sahara's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: shelton,ct
Posts: 2,228
I also ran new wires the same way but they go to the back to a amp.
__________________
99 sahara
4.0/np231/ax15/d30/d35
flowmaster40,hpd30 with aussie locker,currie upper joints,4.88's, lca skids,chromo shafts,vanco brakes,d35 with super 35 and arb locker,re 4.5" springs,currie arms,re front uppers,Re shocks in back,walkerevens shocks up front, Re track bars with currie jj joints,anti rock,ss brake lines,re rear sway bar links,jks 1.25" bl and mml,bfg 35x12.5 km2's,craiger soft 8's,ome steering stabilizer,currie hd steering,rockmen front bumper,emp tank skid,lots more too.
4.0l sahara is offline   Quote
Old 08-05-2008, 06:14 PM   #12
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
my speaker wires for the soundbar are along the passenger side, the power cable for the amp is on the driver side and the rca's and remote turn on lead are down the center under the carpet. that way there is no interference from any other wire.
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 10:12 AM   #13
Newb
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: North Pole, Alaska
Posts: 10
In looking at these pictures I have the same basic soundbar. My connector is a multi prong affair located on the passenger side. My wires for the original two soundbar pods are short 6 inch affairs coming out of the crossbar behind and over the front seats. Did you have a connector to tie into the soundbar? Any idea which connectors are for the overhead light? Sorry for all the questions, just don't want to ruin anything. Starting to get cold up here and need to finish this up before winter. Thanks from Alaska.
TJ in North Pole is offline   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 10:27 AM   #14
Jeeper
 
GrnTJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Pinckney, Michigan
Posts: 1,497
Send a message via AIM to GrnTJ
Isnt it always cold in Alaska?
__________________
99' TJ-SOLD

Without a Jeep for now...
GrnTJ is offline   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 11:28 AM   #15
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
my sound bar had the factory connector on the drivers side of the soundbar. the soundbar had a female connector and the wire harness had a male connection. i still have my soundbar plugged in so that the dome light has power but all the speaker wire i replaced is on the passenger side.
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 03:08 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 70
well i got it through ups today, and am currently confused with the instructions included.

it tells me for years 97-2002 ( i have a 98) that the wires run on the drivers side while for the 87- 96 it runs on the passenger side towards the glove box.

can anyone give me specific pictures as to where i need to splice in the wires. obviously 2 wires drivers side, 2 wires passenger side, and the dome light wires. just a picture of the factory harness under the dash would help tons!
maddmax91 is offline   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 03:15 PM   #17
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 35,724
Images: 2
If your Jeep did not originally come with a sound bar or a radio that had rear channels, as it wouldn't have without the sound bar, your rear speaker wiring isn't there and it's not running up the driver's side rollbar.

You'll need to install your own rear speaker wiring, I had to for my '97 which did not come with a sound bar.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 03:51 PM   #18
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
do you know how to get the radio out so you can look at the factory harness?
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-07-2008, 10:51 PM   #19
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 70
yeah i can get the radio out to look at the harness. is it the same harness i would mess with if i had to change the radio?
maddmax91 is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 10:15 AM   #20
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 35,724
Images: 2
If your radio does not have a front-to-rear fader control, it does not have rear speaker channels. If it's the stock radio, it won't.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 11:42 AM   #21
Jeeper
 
Jma20a's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 3,046
when you change to a new radio you can get a wire harness that plugs into the factory harness and has color coated wires so that you can match the wires from the new stereo to the factory harness.
__________________
Dear Algebra, Please stop asking us to find your X. She's never coming back and don't ask Y.
Jma20a is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 11:49 AM   #22
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 35,724
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jma20a View Post
when you change to a new radio you can get a wire harness that plugs into the factory harness and has color coated wires so that you can match the wires from the new stereo to the factory harness.
The factory harness that plugs into the radio won't have the wiring in it for the rear channels either if the Jeep did not originally have rear speakers when it shipped from the factory. My '97 TJ I bought new that did not come with rear speakers did not come with any rear channel wiring anywhere, not even where the harness plugs into the radio. Forget using the factory harness for rear speaker wiring if the TJ did not originally come with rear speakers.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 11:58 AM   #23
Jeeper
 
richp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pocono mountains
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jma20a View Post
when you change to a new radio you can get a wire harness that plugs into the factory harness and has color coated wires so that you can match the wires from the new stereo to the factory harness.
Yea, but the money question is did jeep run the harness back to the roll bar in jeeps they did not install the sound bar in. In which case those extra wires may not be in the factory stereo plug.
I'm looking at the receiver wiring adapter and it shows two plugs on the back of the radio.
Plug one with 7 populated wires
Blue - power antenna
Green - left rear speaker positive
Violet - right rear speaker positive
white - left front speaker positive
gray - right front speaker positive
Green/black - left rear speaker negative
violet/black - right rear speaker negative

Plug 2 with 7 spots, only 5 populated
1st pin - empty
2nd pin - white/black left front speaker negative
3rd pin - gray/black right front speaker negative
4th pin - empty
5th pin - orange/white dimmer circuit
6th pin - red 12 volts switched power
7th pin - yellow 12 volts constant power

Now if the factory radio with out the factory rear speakers only has one plug in the back it may need a 4 speaker harness. My guess is that if you only have the front speakers from the factory the one I call 'plug 1' is not going to be in there and the the white and gray wires on plug 1 are going to in plug 2, maybe in those two empty pins. I can't give a more positive answer as I have never seen a TJ without the factory sound bar let alone pulled the radio out to see how many plugs are behind a 2 speaker factory radio. My example is from one of my 97's with am/fm/cass 4 speaker system. Judging by what jerry said it's not in there.
richp is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 12:10 PM   #24
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 35,724
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by richp View Post
Yea, but the money question is did jeep run the harness back to the roll bar in jeeps they did not install the sound bar in.
They definitely did not.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 12:26 PM   #25
Jeeper
 
richp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pocono mountains
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
They definitely did not.
You are probably right but then I also said that jeep did not put the sockets in the XJ's PDC for the fogs if it did not come with factory fog lights, my 98XJ SE, built sept 97, did not have them, another one, another SE, that was built later in 98 DID have them as well as the front part of the fog light harness from the PDC to the fog light plugs, he was able to return the $80 kit and just buy a switch, panel replacement and two relays then wire up the hellas, put the fuses in and they worked.
My 97 ZJ Laredo did not have factory fogs but that also has the sockets for the fog relays in the PDC as well as the plugs for the fogs under and behind the bumper nice and neatly zip tied from the factory. Go figure, it might be 'whats in stock thing' from the production line, to me it's kind of dumb to have multiple wiring harness's to complicate the assembly line process.
Did you factory 2 speaker radio have one or two plugs behind it ?
richp is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 12:37 PM   #26
Knows a couple things...

WF Supporting Member
 
Jerry Bransford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Escondido, Calif.
Posts: 35,724
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by richp View Post
Did you factory 2 speaker radio have one or two plugs behind it ?
I don't recall Rich but I do recall verifying, much to my surprise, that the expected rear-channel wiring was definitely missing from the wiring harness leading down to the junction box in the driver's footwell where the OE sound bar wiring harness I installed was supposed to connect to. I had to splice additional wiring from the end of the sound bar's wiring harness up to behind the radio and splice it to the aftermarket radio's rear speaker wiring.
__________________
When you have a choice, buy American.

Jerry Bransford is online now   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 12:47 PM   #27
Jeeper
 
richp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pocono mountains
Posts: 1,559
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford View Post
I don't recall Rich but I do recall verifying, much to my surprise, that the expected rear-channel wiring was definitely missing from the wiring harness leading down to the junction box in the driver's footwell where the OE sound bar wiring harness I installed was supposed to connect to. I had to splice additional wiring from the end of the sound bar's wiring harness up to behind the radio and splice it to the aftermarket radio's rear speaker wiring.
I've bought a few head units from crutchfield and they all came with one of those harness adapters that you solder together to make it plug and play. I wonder what kind of adapter harness they would send if you ordered a head unit and specified that you had a 2 speaker factory stereo but bought 4 speakers from them. The last two head units and speakers I bought they sent me the wiring adapter for the head unit as well as 4 speaker plug adapters to go from the chrysler plugs to the pioneer plugs on the speakers.
Dam, where'd this storm come from, gotta go close skylights and get the top back up.
richp is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 08:27 PM   #28
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 70
ok so the soundbar has sat for a few days without me knowing what to do. but today i bought a new sterio for it and successfully installed it. i followed the wiring guide through the new harness and the factory harness and fould the wires for pos and neg rear right and pos and neg rear left speakers, so the wires are there. which i think means it did originally have the soundbar. the only problem now is that i cant find those wires in the jeep. any pictures of where other soundbars are hooked up? i know for my year ('98) they should be by the drivers feet.
maddmax91 is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 08:53 PM   #29
Jeeper
 
richp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Pocono mountains
Posts: 1,559
It's dark out now, I will try to follow mine back in the morning and see what I can find. Off hand I don't remember any wires on the passenger side... OK, I know you are antsy so I went out and looked, NOTHING on the passenger side, big cable bundle on the drivers side that goes behind the roll bar into a plastic cover, comes out of that cover and splits, the split is about 4" down inside that plastic cover thing, then one bundle goes to the rear the other bundle goes under the padded roll bar cover and up to the sound bar. Good luck. My guess is your wires are under your roll bar padding or coiled up inside that plastic cover, it's about 10" or so tall directly behind the roll bar.

quick question, the stereo that was in there, was it factory and if so did it have one or two connectors on the back of it. I've never seen a TJ without a sound bar.
richp is offline   Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 09:59 PM   #30
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 70
yeah the stereo was factory, and had 2 connectors on the back. and i followed where u said it would be and found the plastic cover, but it only has a wire that goes all the way to the back of the jeep. and the side bars of my roll bar arent padded, so nowhere to hide them .
so im just planning on splicing the new stereos wires before the harness and connecting the soundbars wiring there. a little bit harder but it shouldnt take too long.

maddmax91 is offline   Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Soundbar Speaker Size kEat General Jeep Discussion 7 10-12-2011 05:45 PM
vdp soundbar, kokomo in MoA Classifieds Archive 7 01-25-2009 10:51 PM
Yet another soundbar question TJ in North Pole Communications and Electronics 4 08-08-2008 11:39 AM
Soundbar and rain? ajacks101 TJ General Discussion Forum 9 07-06-2006 12:47 AM
Soundbar question Dazman TJ General Discussion Forum 4 08-03-2005 01:55 AM



Download our Mobile App

» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:05 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2015 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC