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Old 07-29-2009, 10:10 PM   #1
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Soundbar speaker question

Hello everyone, the Jeep i bought came with Pioneer DEH-P4900iB stereo, specs are:

General features:
•CD receiver with built-in MOSFET amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
•plays CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs (including discs loaded with MP3, WMA, and AAC files — except rights-protected files)
•fold-down, detachable face with 2-line display
•remote control
Audio features:
•Easy EQ 3-band equalizer with six preset tone settings
•loudness
•high- and low-pass filters and subwoofer level control
Expandability:
•compatible with optional Pioneer Bluetooth adapter, iPod cable, satellite radio, CD changer
•inputs: auxiliary input (rear), optional USB input for Windows Media devices and USB storage devices (no iPod control)
•outputs: three sets of preamp outputs


What are the best speakers I can put on that bar without any serious modifications to get some decent sound with bass?

Current Pioneer speakers suck.

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Old 07-29-2009, 10:44 PM   #2
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Hello everyone, the Jeep i bought came with Pioneer DEH-P4900iB stereo, specs are:

General features:
•CD receiver with built-in MOSFET amplifier (22 watts RMS/50 peak x 4 channels)
•plays CDs, CD-Rs, and CD-RWs (including discs loaded with MP3, WMA, and AAC files — except rights-protected files)
•fold-down, detachable face with 2-line display
•remote control
Audio features:
•Easy EQ 3-band equalizer with six preset tone settings
•loudness
•high- and low-pass filters and subwoofer level control
Expandability:
•compatible with optional Pioneer Bluetooth adapter, iPod cable, satellite radio, CD changer
•inputs: auxiliary input (rear), optional USB input for Windows Media devices and USB storage devices (no iPod control)
•outputs: three sets of preamp outputs


What are the best speakers I can put on that bar without any serious modifications to get some decent sound with bass?

Current Pioneer speakers suck.

Thank you
sorry, but you are not going to get any type of decent bass response with those little speakers in the sound bar. im suffering with that myself. about the only way is to get a box and install larger speakers or a subwoofer. you know, some jeeps came with a center console that had a subwoofer built in, maybe you could get that and install it in you jeep.

good luck!
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^^^^
X2.

Unfortunately our soundbars will never really produce good bass.
There are plenty of speakers that will give you a loud and pretty full sound,
but there will never be much bass to it, unless you get a sub or two, depending on your goal.

One suggestion I do have for speakers,
regardless of what brand you go with:

1. Buy some 5.25" speaker adapters for your dash. = $25
You'll have to do a minor mod to fit them, but afterwards you'll be able to put 5.25" speakers in your dash. (Like what are now in your soundbar)
It makes quite a difference.
(if you want to do this mod, let me know, and I'll find the detailed write up for it) It's easy.

2. You can easily redrill your soundbar for screw holes to fit 6.5" speakers in place of the 5.25" that are in there right now.

Just doing those two simple mods, and adding the larger and a better brand of speakers should improve your sound quite a bit with the HU you're using.
If that's not enough for you, you'll probably need to buy a sub or two.
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Ok, forget about bass, how about what speakers do you guys recommend. I do not like brain shaking bass anyways, I just want to replace the speakers with better ones.
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Great advice, but I do not want to drill, or modify anything

Stereo seems to be powerful enough for sw, and speakers. Just want clean crispy sound.

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^^^^
X2.

Unfortunately our soundbars will never really produce good bass.
There are plenty of speakers that will give you a loud and pretty full sound,
but there will never be much bass to it, unless you get a sub or two, depending on your goal.

One suggestion I do have for speakers,
regardless of what brand you go with:

1. Buy some 5.25" speaker adapters for your dash. = $25
You'll have to do a minor mod to fit them, but afterwards you'll be able to put 5.25" speakers in your dash. (Like what are now in your soundbar)
It makes quite a difference.
(if you want to do this mod, let me know, and I'll find the detailed write up for it) It's easy.

2. You can easily redrill your soundbar for screw holes to fit 6.5" speakers in place of the 5.25" that are in there right now.

Just doing those two simple mods, and adding the larger and a better brand of speakers should improve your sound quite a bit with the HU you're using.
If that's not enough for you, you'll probably need to buy a sub or two.
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In about an hour, I'm headed over to Best Buy, to have these installed in the Front:

Alpine - Type-S 6-1/2" 2-Way Car Component Speaker System - SPS-600C

..... and the Rear:

Alpine - 6-1/2" 2-Way Coaxial Car Speakers (Pair) - SPR-17C

..... they "DO", make these in a 5-1/4" for your Jeep:

Alpine - Type-S 5-1/4" 2-Way Coaxial Car Speakers with Poly-Mica Cones (Pair) - SPS-500

I've been looking to Upgrade my Speakers in my '09 Wrangler (uses 6-1/2" Speakers Front/Rear), and I have settled on these. I was going to keep the Stock Factory Speakers, and just add an Amp and Sub-Woofer, but I didn't like the $550-$750 Price Quote I got from 4 different Installers. I am getting the Six new Speakers (2 Tweeters included with the Component Kit...) Installed for under $400 at Best Buy, and hope that I get better Bass than I had with the Stock. "ANYTHING"..... would be an improvement!

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Old 07-30-2009, 10:35 AM   #7
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I thought only 5 and quarter would fit in sound bar. Where will these 6-1/2" will go?
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Unfortunately our soundbars will never really produce good bass.
There are plenty of speakers that will give you a loud and pretty full sound,
but there will never be much bass to it, unless you get a sub or two, depending on your goal.

One suggestion I do have for speakers,
regardless of what brand you go with:

1. Buy some 5.25" speaker adapters for your dash. = $25
You'll have to do a minor mod to fit them, but afterwards you'll be able to put 5.25" speakers in your dash. (Like what are now in your soundbar)
It makes quite a difference.
(if you want to do this mod, let me know, and I'll find the detailed write up for it) It's easy.

2. You can easily redrill your soundbar for screw holes to fit 6.5" speakers in place of the 5.25" that are in there right now.

Just doing those two simple mods, and adding the larger and a better brand of speakers should improve your sound quite a bit with the HU you're using.
If that's not enough for you, you'll probably need to buy a sub or two. "





Redrilling of the holes in the soundbar.
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some jeeps came with a center console that had a subwoofer built in, maybe you could get that and install it in you jeep.

good luck!
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Mine came with it and the sound is awesome with or without the top.
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Old 07-30-2009, 03:47 PM   #10
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Can you please tell me what brand it is, maybe I can look it up online.
Since the stereo is sw ready, all I have to do is to change to reg console with sw console. That would kill my music problem

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It was standard equip on mine. Check with a dealer or oem parts supplier. It really is cool having the bass on your butt LOL. It gives you a surround-sound effect and it can take the volume as well. I like my music loud.
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Great advice, but I do not want to drill, or modify anything

Stereo seems to be powerful enough for sw, and speakers. Just want clean crispy sound.
I have Infinity Kappas that are great, but I also have subs, and did all the mods I talked about. The Kappas may be a little bit too bright for you without subs.

Without modding?
The best advise I can give you is to go into an audio place and listen to a bunch of different speakers yourself using a similar HU to your own.
What sounds good to me, may sound like garbage to you, and vise versa.
Plus, my set up is different.
I have a somewhat similar HU,
but I also have subs,
2 amps, and done the mods.
That changes everything.

Maybe check out some Infinity's, Polk's, Boston Acoustic's, or Alpine's though.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
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I have this infinity basslink and it sounds great, thumps hard and is very small. The amp and everything is built in so its nice and compact.
Infinity Basslink Powered Subwoofer at Crutchfield.com
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Where did you install that sw?



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Where did you install that sw?
I've got the same thing in mine. It fits right behind the rear seat. I bought one of those OEM Jeep Instant trunk off of ebay for 80bucks, and installed it on top of some 2x2 posts to ensure proper fit over the sub. This is the second Basslink that I've had (first was years ago) and I love it. You can hear and feel the bass with the top off doing 75 on the highway.

You could find them on Amazon.com for far less than Crutchfield offers them. I think mine was $209 shipped! I just had to buy the wiring kit separately ($30). Easy install, as the removable carpet makes running the wires a breeze. I'll take some pics and post them if you want.
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I have this infinity basslink and it sounds great, thumps hard and is very small. The amp and everything is built in so its nice and compact.
Infinity Basslink Powered Subwoofer at Crutchfield.com
where did you mount it? nevermind already answered

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