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Old 04-22-2013, 11:28 PM   #31
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I agree, HU, speakers, sub & amp (if premium) is all trash. Only way to get audiophile quality is by using sound deadening material and swapping everything. If you're only doing a piece of the puzzle you won't get what you're after. Some are perfectly fine with the stock equipment as they don't know any better... as it sounds just as good as their Ipod dock at home with 3" speakers.

You and I (and most of the forum) know that the equipment is junk.

Good system is:

New HU, amp, sub, components in front, good speakers in the back, crossovers at the right points and you have good sound.

I don't know how the stock HU is setup, so I can't answer your particular question, but even if you get the low frequencies to those soundbar speakers, you won't be happy with it. I guarantee it.

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Old 04-22-2013, 11:42 PM   #32
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I agree, HU, speakers, sub & amp (if premium) is all trash. Only way to get audiophile quality is by using sound deadening material and swapping everything. If you're only doing a piece of the puzzle you won't get what you're after. Some are perfectly fine with the stock equipment as they don't know any better... as it sounds just as good as their Ipod dock at home with 3" speakers.

You and I (and most of the forum) know that the equipment is junk.

Good system is:

New HU, amp, sub, components in front, good speakers in the back, crossovers at the right points and you have good sound.

I don't know how the stock HU is setup, so I can't answer your particular question, but even if you get the low frequencies to those soundbar speakers, you won't be happy with it. I guarantee it.
Yes, that is what I suspected.

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Old 04-24-2013, 08:34 AM   #33
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Does the factory amp have to stay inside because of the CAN bus or can you rip it out?
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:03 AM   #34
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^ I would like to know also.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:10 AM   #35
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Does the factory amp have to stay inside because of the CAN bus or can you rip it out?
You can take it out, but you'll have to either cut the plugs off and extend the speaker cables or rewire completely (which was my preference). CANBUS doesn't seem to have an issue with the disappearance of the amp, although I had already replaced the HU before I removed it - I don't know if CANBUS would get upset about the amp being removed with the factory HU still trying to send it commands. I don't see why it would as I believe that all of the stock head units can be installed in non-premium audio configurations, but someone who know the stock units better than I would probably be able to tell you if there is at least a setting in the unit to tell it whether it has a factory amp.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:07 AM   #36
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Just like a high powered aux lighting system, a new amp would be powered right to the battery, not wired into the Canbus system. That's my understanding. I'm sure another person who has actually installed on a JK will chime in.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:22 AM   #37
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New amp won't go anywhere near CANBUS, and yes, you need a new fused power cable direct from the battery because the stock amp is so puny it uses something like 12awg wire for power.
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:29 AM   #38
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Thanks for this AWESOME write-up. I just ordered polk db651s for the front and soundbar. This is exactly what I needed to do the install in the next weekend or two!

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Old 05-02-2013, 07:18 PM   #39
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Very informative write-up.
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:49 PM   #40
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found this awesome writeup by searching for polk db651s on this site. hopefully i can order and get this done this weekend!

btw anyone know why these speakers cost almost twice as much on crutchfield as they do on amazon?
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:52 PM   #41
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found this awesome writeup by searching for polk db651s on this site. hopefully i can order and get this done this weekend!

btw anyone know why these speakers cost almost twice as much on crutchfield as they do on amazon?
My guess is the support you get from Crutchfield. A lot of people just on this site have said they've bought from them knowing they could get help if they needed.

I just bought these (plus everything else I'm installing) from Amazon, and it saved me hundreds. There was just way too much info on this site and others for me to believe I couldn't get it done on my own and save the cash.
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Old 05-23-2013, 05:17 PM   #42
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My guess is the support you get from Crutchfield. A lot of people just on this site have said they've bought from them knowing they could get help if they needed.

I just bought these (plus everything else I'm installing) from Amazon, and it saved me hundreds. There was just way too much info on this site and others for me to believe I couldn't get it done on my own and save the cash.
Yip. Same here. Easy install with the info available in this site.
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:35 PM   #43
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Thanks b.lister for the great write up! Just finished installing both dash speakers. Had installed the soundbar speakers a few weeks ago. Went with the Kicker upgrade and am very happy with the results. The stock speakers truly sucked after having the Alpine in my 2011 JKU. This was my first project on my 2013 JKU...actually first jeep project ever. Write up is fantastic and helped a LOT!

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