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Old 10-04-2013, 07:14 PM   #1
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Speakers - Help Please!

Man I have gone cross-eyed reading speaker threads on here but I think I am more confused than when I started. Who the heck knew so much went into planning a car audio setup?

Anyways I currently have a Sony MEX-BT2600 Headunit. I have no idea what specs you need so here is what I got online:
Level Control: -8dB~+18dB
Sensitivity: FM: Usable sensitivity (75) (dBf): 9
Frequency Response: FM: Intermediate frequency (MHz) 10.7MHz/450kHz
Power Consumption (in operation): 45W
Output Power: 52W

I have the sound pods behind rear seats and currently they have Infinity 5022i 5.25 Speakers. These are the specs I got online:
Power Range: 2-45 watts RMS (135 watts peak power)
Frequency Response: 67-21,000 Hz
Sensitivity: 92.6 dB

These things were installed by the previous owner. Now that its mine I would like to upgrade the front speakers to also be 5.25 speakers. I already have the nalin mounts but I would like to get speakers that work well with my rear speakers. They no longer make the 5022i speakers though.

So could someone point me to a pair of speakers that would work well with them? Or tell me what is important for me to look for in matching them?

I do not plan on adding an amp or a sub and I am not looking to spend a bunch on the front speakers; maybe like $60-$70 for the pair? Is that reasonable?

Thanks a bunch for any help you guys can give me. I am real good with wiring this stuff up but I do not have any knowledge at all on all these specs so any tips are appreciated!

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Old 10-04-2013, 07:30 PM   #2
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Go to sonicelectronics.com they have some of the best prices for anything car audio, and are a good quality company to work with, what you want to look at is they are infinity which is a great mids and highs brand so your on the right track there are better but thats an above average brand, so go to site and search infinity 5.25s it will give you what they carry at which point you want to go by the rms ratings that is the true power output for the speaker, you want to match the rms ratings of the infinity speakers you already have once you have done that im sure you will be in your price range and will have found what you needed buddy

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I tried the Infinity's and I didn't like them. I thought they were great, but then I began to read about the complaints. They are really twangy in the high. And, the lows are really non existent. The Infinty's are normally $99, and I found a better speaker in the CDT for the same price. I think Polks might be better too. The CDT is rated at 60RMS, and it has deeper sound and a smoother sounding tweeter. I have 4-CDT 5.25 all around, and they are great. The CDT's are much better sounding than my previous Infinity's in my humble opinion.
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Old 10-04-2013, 07:57 PM   #4
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Cdt is ok and the high end polks are good but if I was going to make a suggestion as what to get it would be an alpine mid and high they are a great value for any speaker and the r types amplified are tremendous for their value
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Sweet thanks! So it is important to stay with Infinity to get a good balance? I was just wondering b/c a buddy of mine is upgrading to bigger speakers and has a pair of Polks that have the same 45w RMS as my Infinity's. I was wondering if I could buy those off him
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Sweet thanks! So it is important to stay with Infinity to get a good balance.
Yes, you are probably right about that.

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I was just wondering b/c a buddy of mine is upgrading to bigger speakers and has a pair of Polks that have the same 45w RMS as my Infinity's. I was wondering if I could buy those off him
Like you said, if you want good balance, you should probably stay with the Infinity's or buy another pair of Polks to compliment those from your friend.
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Cdt is ok and the high end polks are good but if I was going to make a suggestion as what to get it would be an alpine mid and high they are a great value for any speaker and the r types amplified are tremendous for their value
But where's the Bass without an amp and a sub? The OP said that he doesn't want to add either, so he wouldn't have bass with just a mid and high.

The CDT's and the Polk's would probably be better than Infinity's for bass especially without a sub.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:56 PM   #8
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Im not going to argue with you on what is better but an r type alpine has more bass than any cdt I can assure you and im not partial to any brand I have had memphis pioneer kicker alpine crescendo and many others, a set of components would be ideal but even if he has no sub a quality set of mids and highs is key which is anything 8" and smaller he may never have a sub but even then he will have a kick ass sounding system and if he adds a sub well that just made those cdts and polks that are so bassy not any good so why buy something you can't expand on
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It's not an argument, it is a discussion. And, no offense is intended.

Bass and Sub-bass, or woofer and subwoofer are two different things. You are expanding on the woofer with a subwoofer. So, how can you say that you can't expand on speakers with woofers? When, this is exactly what the subwoofer does?

A bass speaker will not give you subwoofer sound, it will only give you bass sound. I think you have it backwards. You can expand on a woofer with a subwoofer, but you cannot expand on a mid range with a subwoofer because you have no woofer.

Tweeter-Mid Range-Woofer-Subwoofer. It is best not to take the woofer out of the equation. The subwoofer compliments the woofer, not the midrange. To just have tweeter-mid range speakers without any bass, would sound horrible.

But, maybe this is a misunderstanding. From what I've read, the Alpine type r, do have a woofer. My understanding from your earlier post is that they only had a tweeter-mid range, and no woofer. Alpine is a recognized reputable car stereo manufacturer. But, the Alpines have the same rating as the CDT's at 90watts RMS, and the Alpines cost $200-$300, whereas the CDT's only cost $100.
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I paid $60 bucks for my type r 6.5s but its been 7 years ago but ebay has great deals and yes were on the same page with woofer subwoofer but most will consider a woofer part of the mid range and most will be thinking of coaxial mid range set ups as a pose to components even though components are much better I suggested the alpine cause they are all around a great set up, even the s type are very good for the money cadence are also great and so are re audio even though they are mainly known for subs, he almost cant go wrong with any of these as long as he looks at the power ratings but if he doesn't run at least a 2 channel amp on them none that we have suggested will sound their best and beyond that if his head unit isnt any good that matters too so tons of factors but if he finds a good brand with a decent output he will be happy and we suggested many
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Yeah see all that is what I dont understand lol. Component vs coaxial vs regular? Craziness. I am not opposed in time to the money of a sub and amp but more opposed to worrying about having the top off and having an exposed amp and sub.

What does everyone else do to keep their sub/amp protected from the elements and theft?
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An alarm is the best deterrent. The best deterrent for your stereo itself is a removable face. And, think of it this way: What they can't see, they can't steal. I hid my amp under my rear seat, and my subs are molded into an enclosure. Unless you break it, and destroy it, you have to open the trunk to get it out. I keep my trunk locked, and, most people have no idea what it is.
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Coaxial is the woofer or midrange speaker with a tweeter contained together basically thats all walmart sells so you can see them there obviously you know what a sub is and a component set up comes with a crossover and you can mount the tweeter and woofer or mid range speaker separately, on the coaxial speaker the crossover is self contained as well, I would recommend you going with a coaxial set up as you just plug and play components also have the ability to mount the tweeter sometimes as all in one like a coaxial but not always but unless you run an amp with them and tune well as well as can install the tweeter or mount it together if that set allows then coaxial is your best bet
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When I brought my CDT's the guy told me that they were 90watts RMS. This seems more accurate because I have been really cranking them over the past few months and I have yet to blow them. Also, Vertex audio is rating them at 90RMS. Plus the CDT's are a coaxial or component. You can un-screw the tweeter and mount it as a component. It comes on a long metal shaft for unscrewing it. It is an in-genius setup. I am currently using it as a coaxial. It has a separate included crossover, which filters unwanted frequencies, and hence obtains the "silk" tweeter endorsement.

I must say that this speaker is amazing. The downside is that the speaker doesn't come with a grills. You can purchase them from the company website, but the set is $25.00.
I just got a nice set of generic grills for $5.00, and placed a Jeep logo on both rear grills. It looks awesome. I also painted the grills white to match my body color.
Below is the link to the CDT with the 90RMS rating. This website really has awesome speakers, and they included the CDT in their lineup, but not the Infinity or the Polks.
I get the feeling that this website has nothing but high end speakers. The CDT is made in California too, in case you didn't know. It is not a China or Japanese speaker. It is quality.

CDT Audio CL-5EX 5.25" Coaxial Speakers - Vertex Audio
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:49 PM   #15
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Thanks again everyone for the suggestions and info! I did end up going with Infinity 5.25 fronts just to match the rears even though they are a newer version. And it did make a pretty good difference. I have to fade a couple steps to the front to get it balanced since the fronts are low and the rears are right behind my head but with it +2 on the fronts its sounds pretty balanced and I can hear well while driving around.

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