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Old 04-12-2014, 09:23 AM   #1
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Stock Audio Suggestions

Hello.

I am dumping my Sony CDX series thing that the previous owner swapped into my dash. I hate it. I want a stock unit that is not so dust sensitive and that is not so cheap feeling or such a PITA to use while driving.

I got the head unit. I have a 2003 TJ and this is a PN from a 2004 Liberty that works in the 2003 TJ, so that bit is covered.

I have what I believe are the four stock dash and sport bar speakers. The sub is missing. The center console has no lock and wobbles. It is probably a broken screw tab or two. It is fairly trashed, so it needs to go.

Here are my questions...

1. With the stock head unit in the photo, what aftermarket speakers would be a good match? I do not need lots of power. I just need clarity and quality, not BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, thank you very much. ;-)

2. I need a basic sub. What would the stock head unit drive well (again, with clarity)?

3. What would be a good aftermarket center console option for me? I leave my top down (or sometimes off) for months at a time. When the top is up I *never* lock my doors so that a thief will not slash the plastic to get in. I leave nothing but sunglasses in the jeep, ever. I do not store stuff in it, ever. I would, however, like to be able to lock stuff up for a few hours when I go shopping or out for the evening. These would not be costly things, just crap I do not want to carry on my person while doing my errands, but that would be too valuable to just leave out on the seat with the top down. I also want a console that is not so easy to rip out of the jeep or to break open and steal the sub from. (My stock console does not inspire confidence in this regard...)

Thanks!

EDIT: Final question - Does this head unit that I bought actually hold five CDs at once? I have never had a multi CD unit before. Do they crap out normally or are they pretty robust? Just curious...

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For speakers get some polk 5.25's for the dash and sound bar.

For a sub you will need a line out converter to get signal for the amp OR an amp with high level inputs. I would say a good 10 off a Rockford Fosgate pbr300-1

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Old 04-12-2014, 07:49 PM   #3
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x2 on the polks. As for the sub, you're gonna need an amp. Stock uh won't power one by itself.
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Personally, I believe your idea of security is flawed. In fact, it is non-existent. You forgot one important thing. Your Jeep! What is more valuable? The knick knacks, or your Jeep? I did the same thing when I had a convertible. I left my doors unlocked. But, one important thing I had was an alarm. This way, if someone opened my door, my alarm would sound. Luckily for you, you don't live in San Diego, because your Jeep would definitely be stolen, with your idea for security.

When, I first got my Jeep, I had scheduled an alarm to be installed in it.

With an alarm, you have protection for your Jeep, with a ignition kill switch, and the deterrence of the loud alarm horn, for the interior.

With an alarm, no one is going to search your car for invisible audio components, because they won't have that much time.

To upgrade your audio system, and not have an alarm is a bad decision, IMHO.

To have a open vehicle, and not have an alarm, is a bad decision, IMHO.

Protect your Jeep, first.
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Personally, I believe your idea of security is flawed. In fact, it is non-existent. You forgot one important thing. Your Jeep! What is more valuable? The knick knacks, or your Jeep? I did the same thing when I had a convertible. I left my doors unlocked. But, one important thing I had was an alarm. This way, if someone opened my door, my alarm would sound. Luckily for you, you don't live in San Diego, because your Jeep would definitely be stolen, with your idea for security.

When, I first got my Jeep, I had scheduled an alarm to be installed in it.

With an alarm, you have protection for your Jeep, with a ignition kill switch, and the deterrence of the loud alarm horn, for the interior.

With an alarm, no one is going to search your car for invisible audio components, because they won't have that much time.

To upgrade your audio system, and not have an alarm is a bad decision, IMHO.

To have a open vehicle, and not have an alarm, is a bad decision, IMHO.

Protect your Jeep, first.
Thanks for trying to help, but what in my post made you think that I have no alarm or ignition kill system? I was asking about audio only. I am quite happy with my security. I leave it open and unlocked to prevent the curious from slashing my plastic windows to get in. It has worked well for over a decade now. I have a tracker, too, by the way.

Again, thanks anyway.

And the car theft rate you guys have is much lower, as is crime in general, to Jackson, MS when you account for per capita rates.

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...alifornia.html

http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime...ssissippi.html
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Okay, I have the Polks installed in the soundbar. They are not much better than the Alpine SPS 500s that were in there - by spec-to-spec comparison. But they are much better sounding. The small difference in numbers makes a big difference in the sound.

So, how would you get these to work up front? I was thinking about the 4" with a separate tweeter that would fit in the 4x6 hole. Not a good idea? Or just needless? Anyone have a writeup of modifying the front cabs to hold 5.25" round speakers? Would the wiring be the same plug-n-play beauty that I had with the sound bar swap?

What an easy, reasonably priced upgrade! THANKS, guys!
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Oh, I left out some information.

My sub cabinet in the center console has evidence of having an aftermarket grille over it. There are four corner screw hole and the indentation of something covering the opening. About one third of the original plastic grille slots are broken out on one side. There is nothing in the space, but there are two multi-wire connectors visible.

I am going out to install the new-to-me stock head unit. I will photograph the sub space and post it here this afternoon. Maybe you guys can help me determine what is going on without my having to remove the center console.

Later...
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Check out the brackets made by a guy called Nalin. They will let you fit 5.25" speakers in the dash. And I feel your pain in Jackson, had my audio system stolen out of my locked jeep right in front of my fraternity house at college. Hard top, too. Managed to pry one of my windows down enough to unlock the door.
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For the front get Polk components and run them in nalin brackets. You will have to trim the brace in the dash but it is worth it.
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Thanks for trying to help, but what in my post made you think that I have no alarm or ignition kill system? I was asking about audio only. I am quite happy with my security. I leave it open and unlocked to prevent the curious from slashing my plastic windows to get in. It has worked well for over a decade now. I have a tracker, too, by the way.

Again, thanks anyway.

And the car theft rate you guys have is much lower, as is crime in general, to Jackson, MS when you account for per capita rates.

Crime rate in San Diego, California (CA): murders, rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries, thefts, auto thefts, arson, law enforcement employees, police officers statistics

Crime rate in Jackson, Mississippi (MS): murders, rapes, robberies, assaults, burglaries, thefts, auto thefts, arson, law enforcement employees, police officers statistics
Okay, I hope it works out for you. Good Luck.
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Lol.... I roll unlocked 24/7 with no alarm and a signed title in the console...

Well, close..
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Old 04-14-2014, 09:29 AM   #12
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... I feel your pain in Jackson, had my audio system stolen out of my locked jeep right in front of my fraternity house at college. Hard top, too. Managed to pry one of my windows down enough to unlock the door.
Yep. Daily occurrence here in Jackson. That is why we bought a house up in Yazoo City. Much better. But now we waste two hours a day on commuting.

Sorry about your theft. When did that happen? Were you at Millsaps or Belhaven or Jackson State or where???
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Okay, I hope it works out for you. Good Luck.
Thanks very much, man. I do too. I have been ripped off several times since I moved here about 20 years ago. All were from locked cars with alarms.

Leaving the jeep unlocked and completely empty has been a gamble, and it can be a PITA to remember to get everything out after a trip or something. But my gamble has paid off with the jeep; no break-ins that I know of. I do regularly get in and find my visors down from people looking for remotes or keys and such. But no damage to the soft top or the jeep itself. The alarm does not seem to scare them off as the rifle through the empty center console (no lock) or the glove box (unlocked).

We shall see how the stock radio does. I might chicken out and stick the removable face plate HU back in the dash...
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Check out the brackets made by a guy called Nalin. They will let you fit 5.25" speakers in the dash.
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For the front get Polk components and run them in nalin brackets. You will have to trim the brace in the dash but it is worth it.
I will look for these. THANKS! The Polk DB521s above my head are *much* better! I would love to have a set in the dash, too.
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Yep. Daily occurrence here in Jackson. That is why we bought a house up in Yazoo City. Much better. But now we waste two hours a day on commuting. Sorry about your theft. When did that happen? Were you at Millsaps or Belhaven or Jackson State or where???
Don't blame you for moving that far out. It's what I would do if I had to move back there. I was at millsaps and it was about 2 years ago. They hit about 10 cars and threw the stuff over the fence. So much for a gated campus.
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I used to teach at Millsaps. I had stuff stolen from underneath the Performing Arts center. They keep that gate open all day and the cars are only about 50 feet from the Jungle that is Jackson. Crazy. Why even had a gated campus if you leave it open all the time?
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Okay, I found the Nalin brackets through a member search and a link to his website. I should have them pretty soon.

I will stick in my Alpines that I replaced with the new Polks until I can afford another pair of the DB521s. Should be a nice improvement! Thanks, guys!

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