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Old 11-25-2011, 11:45 PM   #1
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"Death Wobble"

I have what others call Death Wobble at 45Mph...most times
I can drive through it and when I reach 50mph it goes away....Sometimes I have to come to almost a complete stop to get it to quit...... everyone I talk to has a different idea for a Cure !!!!!
Help !!!!!
2003 Rubicon, Terraflex 3 1/2" lift, 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Ultra 15x10 wheels.
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Old 11-26-2011, 11:01 AM   #2
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I have what others call Death Wobble at 45Mph...most times
I can drive through it and when I reach 50mph it goes away....Sometimes I have to come to almost a complete stop to get it to quit...... everyone I talk to has a different idea for a Cure !!!!!
Help !!!!!
2003 Rubicon, Terraflex 3 1/2" lift, 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's, Ultra 15x10 wheels.
Thanks,
Gus
Here you go, I found this article, pretty much explains how to try and pin point it.

http://www.kevinsoffroad.com/how-to-...-death-wobble/

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Old 11-27-2011, 12:12 PM   #3
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I also get the death wabble. If i'm going 40-50mph and hit a small bump it sends the jeep into full on crazy mode. I reciently bought new tires and it went away for a few months and now its back. I also have a TJ with a 3.5" Teraflex lift, 33" Dick Cipeck mud terrains. I wonder if it's a Teraflex lift thing? I've read that many things can cause this. I've changed tires and the steering stablizer. The tires made a diffrence but it was only temporary. I've got an appointment on the 1st for an alignment, I'll let you know if it has any effect.
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Old 11-28-2011, 05:36 PM   #4
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It is not a teraflex thing and steering stabilizers and alignment are just band aids and dont fix anything. First off are you sure it is DW? Death Wobble does not resemble any other kind of wobble like bump steer, alignment issues, balancing issues etc... DW seems like the Jeep is going to straight up fall apart.

I would assume you each got the fron track bar with your lifts right? Go under the Jeep and re torque it. And read Planmans sticky.

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It is not a teraflex thing and steering stabilizers and alignment are just band aids and dont fix anything. First off are you sure it is DW? Death Wobble does not resemble any other kind of wobble like bump steer, alignment issues, balancing issues etc... DW seems like the Jeep is going to straight up fall apart.

I would assume you each got the fron track bar with your lifts right? Go under the Jeep and re torque it. And read Planmans sticky.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/dia...les-78034.html

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that is a much better write up.

Thx Dan
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:30 PM   #6
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I can't speak for the others but I forsure have the Death Wabble. I was considering trying to video it for everyone to see but decided against that because I fear if it happens again I will snap a wheel or an axle clear off! Thanks Dan for the usefull information, I'm going to try some stuff when I get a spare moment.
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Old 11-30-2011, 06:32 PM   #7
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That is a great write up by Daniel..... if that doesn't diagnose the problem though, have the harmonic balancer checked. Went out in my '94 ZJ and the wobble was nothing like that of an unbalanced tire etc.... If it wasn't DW it might as well have been. 2 shops tried to fix everything else first too, my mechanic neighbor found and fixed it.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:54 PM   #8
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I made the Mistake of going to "A local Tire and Alignment shop Chain" to align and fix the problem. Several hundred Dollars later I got my jeep back ( They said they replaced the Track Bar and a whole bunch of Bushings) and when I Got back from My first jeep Run the next weekend there was the wobble back and the Steering wheel was turned 90 degrees to the left. ..took it back to them on Monday and they said the steering rod end on the Pitman Arm went bad and the had to replace it again.
They said because the would have to saw off a little bit of the threaded end of the Ball Joint, it would void the Warrantee. Because I had a run the next day to go ahead.
When I got back from that run I still had a wobble ..I changed to my other set of tires and wheels and went on my run on Sunday....when I got back I had the Death wobble back .... took it back and they said the Pitman arm was shot again but since they cut it off I would have to pay for the new one.
I took my Jeep to Ultimate Offroad to fix it right. The replaced the non-existant "New Track Bar" with an Adjustable one. ..Moved the Pitman arm to correct Center and replaced a couple of other parts. I went on the run the next day and still had a small shake. .... next day I put my Original Tires and wheels back and HOOO- HAH!!!! Smooth as Glass clear through 75MPH!!!!
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:51 PM   #9
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It has been a few runs now and the DW seems to have been Cured I took the note from Kevins Offroad to Ultimate Off road in Yuma and they agreed it was the same route they took in Fixing my problem !!!!! Thanks for all your help, Folks !!!!
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