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Old 06-20-2013, 11:41 AM   #1081
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Steve's (abqtj) old TJ is for sale again....

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Old 06-20-2013, 12:07 PM   #1082
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Here's an update from NMOHVA who's trying to reopen our open space in Santa Fe County.

LAWSUIT UPDATE #4 June 19, 2013

Judge DENIES Intervener Status to 'Big Green' in the NMOHVA Lawsuit

We have received great news on our lawsuit challenging the Santa Fe National Forest Travel Management decision. The judge has DENIED intervener status to the "Big Green" gang who filed for intervener status in the case. United States District Judge William Paul Johnson denied a request for intervener status, filed by the Center for Biological Diversity, WildEarth Guardians, and the Sierra Club (collectively called "the Center" in the judge's decision). While denying intervener status to the green organizations doesn't have any direct bearing on the ultimate outcome of our case, it is still very big news.

In lawsuits such as ours, intervention allows a third party, called an "intervener", to join ongoing litigation. This is at the discretion of the court and is done without the permission of the original parties (NMOHVA and the Forest Service) in the lawsuit. The rationale for intervention is that a judgment in a particular case may affect the rights of nonparties, whose interests are not adequately represented by the original parties in the suit. The intervener can submit their own legal arguments to influence the judge's decision.

The judge's denial of the intervener status indicates that the judge is not favorably biased towards our opposition. It would have been very easy to grant the motion. The granting of intervener status to the environmental organizations is so common that we didn't even bother to challenge it. But the Big Green litigation machine and its horde of lawyers didn't convince the judge.

Even more interesting is the reason why the judge denied the intervener status. He essentially said that the Forest Service is already representing the green's anti-OHV viewpoint and he didn't need them cluttering up the case. Here's an excerpt from what the judge wrote:

"However, the Center also argues that the Forest Service will not adequately represent its interests, either-and this does not make sense to the Court. In designing and attempting to implement a Travel Plan which intends to curb the use of OHV on forest land, the Forest Service appears to be taking the position of environmental groups (such as the Center) voicing a concern for the environmental effect of OHV use on national forest land."

The judge goes on to explain that, "The Court is confident that the Forest Service will provide the Court with ample information and legal authority to support its position in this matter, and finds that additional briefing would not be helpful and perhaps may even distract from the issues at the center of this litigation." You can read the judge's entire Order Denying the Motion to Intervene at NMOHVA's website (www.nmohva.org).

This means that ONLY NMOHVA and the Forest Service are allowed to present their arguments in this case. The judge will base his decision on the administrative record and the arguments made by only these two parties. This is one case where Big Green will be sitting on the sidelines.

THANKS FROM NMOHVA!

So far, with your help, we are two for two! The Forest Service tried hard to keep some of the pertinent documents out of the Administrative Record. NMOHVA kept up the pressure and eventually every single document we requested was added. Now the judge has denied intervener status to the big and VERY well-funded green organizations. We still have a very long ways to go but we have made a great start. We don't have a huge war chest from big money foundations. We don't have a lawsuit-factory law firm at our disposal. NMOHVA is doing all this with only the grassroots support of our members and friends.

So THANK YOU!!!! Without you, none of this would be possible.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:58 PM   #1084
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #1085
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Thanks for the update Tim!! It's always good news when someone in our legal system uses some sense.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:36 PM   #1086
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Why in the HELL did they use different rim designs from side to side?! That's stupid (as is a lot of that "jeep")

It's two different photo shoots rims are the same on each shoot
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:59 PM   #1087
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It's two different photo shoots rims are the same on each shoot
Not so. Look again. The spare never changes including the shoot with the 2 different wheels. 3 of the wheels have straight spokes where as the 2 odd balls are curved. This heep indeed has 2 curved spoked and 3 straight spoked in terms of where they meet the rim. All one shot.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:15 PM   #1088
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Not so. Look again. The spare never changes including the shoot with the 2 different wheels. 3 of the wheels have straight spokes where as the 2 odd balls are curved. This heep indeed has 2 curved spoked and 3 straight spoked in terms of where they meet the rim. All one shot.

Yeah you can JUST see the curved ones on the driver's side in this pic'

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Old 06-20-2013, 10:30 PM   #1089
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Ok I stand corrected they did do a 50/50 on the rims. At least they used the same tires all around.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:11 PM   #1091
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That's the same company that put a gold wrap on Flo Rida's Bugatti. Ridiculous.

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Old 06-21-2013, 10:17 AM   #1092
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My wife found these Pic's of my Black 93' YJ thought I would share... 1st time Jeeping in Colorado & top of Imogene pass 20yrs ago.
Nice YJ!!
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This is at the top of my price range but I figured I would take a look at it this weekend but once again I was hoping for your thoughts.

2005 Jeep Rubicon - PRICE REDUCED -
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This is at the top of my price range but I figured I would take a look at it this weekend but once again I was hoping for your thoughts.

2005 Jeep Rubicon - PRICE REDUCED -
This one is not at the top of your price range and completely built.

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yup I think this is a better deal then the 2005

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Old 06-21-2013, 06:07 PM   #1096
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And if you ever have any questions about the components, it was my Jeep for about 12 years
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Old 06-21-2013, 07:32 PM   #1097
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Yea the stuff on that jeep is beyond me... I spend extraordinary amounts of time researching. The 37's freak me out stuff says it crushes the transmission and changes the function of the speedometer.
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Just spent $35 at Mesa Radio to have it tuned and there was a blown output. Not to hook everything up tonight and enjoy. Happy day. Great service.
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Just spent $35 at Mesa Radio to have it tuned and there was a blown output. Not to hook everything up tonight and enjoy. Happy day. Great service.
nice!!!

we will have to test it out after 4th of july!
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So i routed my ground directly to the battery for my CB.. still getting the engine hummm thru speaker... so my next step is to ground the alt? any info pictures instruction thanks..

also.. ive been getting a code p0430 catalyst blah blah blah.. and i clear it with the traildash.. so today i look and see.. this
the mechanic who did the exhaust install snapped the bold off in the manifold..

awesome.. but... i dont see any black residue on or near the broken bolt..

any ideas? my next step is to check the cat on the drivers side.. and snug all the bolts.. the exhaust bolts are all tight cept the missing one! lol


i think i know the fix.. and bob you may be right.. ill plasti dip my manifolds!
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Anyone available Thursday - Saturday this week? I need some dirt!
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So i routed my ground directly to the battery for my CB.. still getting the engine hummm thru speaker... so my next step is to ground the alt? any info pictures instruction thanks..

also.. ive been getting a code p0430 catalyst blah blah blah.. and i clear it with the traildash.. so today i look and see.. this
the mechanic who did the exhaust install snapped the bold off in the manifold..

awesome.. but... i dont see any black residue on or near the broken bolt..

any ideas? my next step is to check the cat on the drivers side.. and snug all the bolts.. the exhaust bolts are all tight cept the missing one! lol

i think i know the fix.. and bob you may be right.. ill plasti dip my manifolds!
thanks again guys!

Check the dog bolt on the other side. Then be sure to do at least 4-5 coats of plastidip over your entire exhaust system to be safe. You don't want to have any fumes because that would cause a bad kitty.
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flush mounts showed up today!!! not too shabby.. cant wait!
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Does anyone have any experience rebuilding a driveshaft? My front started whining making the 'angry sparrows' noise. I dropped it fine, but am having a hard time figuring out the right parts to order between the greasable, and non greasable u-joints, socket yokes, oil slingers and seals.

I called Abq Driveshaft and U-joints Inc. Both had ballpark estimates of ~$280. I can buy a new Tom Woods for that.
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Does anyone have any experience rebuilding a driveshaft? My front started whining making the 'angry sparrows' noise. I dropped it fine, but am having a hard time figuring out the right parts to order between the greasable, and non greasable u-joints, socket yokes, oil slingers and seals.

I called Abq Driveshaft and U-joints Inc. Both had ballpark estimates of ~$280. I can buy a new Tom Woods for that.
And I would buy the Tom Woods!
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Daniel at steellizardoffroad.com can help rebuild or just build a new shaft for you, great guy that just bought a new building, its easier to call him direct 503-3205, tell him Paul sent ya
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And I would buy the Tom Woods!

I ran Tom Woods front and rear on my TJ , they are top dollar but if money is no issue thay are also top quality, you def get what you pay for, if i blow up my JK shafts it would be a hard decision not to go with him again.
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And I would buy the Tom Woods!
I would do the same, and you may want to check out J.E. Reel as well.
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Daniel at steellizardoffroad.com can help rebuild or just build a new shaft for you, great guy that just bought a new building, its easier to call him direct 503-3205, tell him Paul sent ya
Thanks, I'll give him a call.

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I ran Tom Woods front and rear on my TJ , they are top dollar but if money is no issue thay are also top quality, you def get what you pay for, if i blow up my JK shafts it would be a hard decision not to go with him again.
Apparently they're not too top dollar since local shops want nearly the same amount just to replace joints on an otherwise working shaft haha.

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