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Old 11-19-2012, 12:37 PM   #631
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Im in on a trip down south Dana! You can camp there if I'm not mistaken. Never been to the park, but Marble Falls is pretty country for sure.
You can camp there.. I have some gear I need to try out OR I could stay at the outlaws, er, inlaws for free.. Or at least go to the outlaws for a shower..
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Hey guys checking in from about an hour north of Dallas, a little town called Van Alstyne, currently have a 92 and a 93 YJ

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Hey guys checking in from about an hour north of Dallas, a little town called Van Alstyne, currently have a 92 and a 93 YJ

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I did.. went down a few trails that werent too bad for a newb like myself. I am sore today from pushing/pulling on an upside down red Jeep.. plus, I tried to help Mike move a rock..sucks getting old.. so I took a couple of Aleve this morning, and they helped a bit.
I didnt get any pics you havent seen posted up.. I was busy driving..

It was also a good day since I didnt break anything. Only thing I did bad was leave the back window(?) open and when driving out, got dust EVERYWHERE. So when I got home, I washed the Jeep and wiped down all of the interior to get rid of the dust. The Jeep thing and my wanting to have a clean vehicle is at odds with each other.
It was good to see Marty, Mike, JD and family. also, got to meet David, and some other fellas, whose names I wont remember. Not because they werent memorable, its just that I have a hard time with names.
I am now planning to get new gears, lockers and a few other things for the Jeep.
David and I in passing mentioned a caravan trip to Hideaway or Holiday Falls, anyway the place in Marble Falls. Not sure how many of you guys would want to make the trip there. Its about 4 hours from my house, you guys that live West, its a short drive. But hang for a weekend, drive another place. Lots of terrain with a fair amount of variety, too. Then tailgate in the parking lot with a few adult beverages and tell some tall tales. Well, my stories are always true, just dont know about you guys.

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Wish I could have made it. We could probably have winched it back over rather than pushing
Been wanting to use my winch on something other than my explorer in a parking lot to re-spool the line.

Let me know in advance when y'all are planning hidden falls so I can make sure I take the extra time off. Hopefully it'll fall on a three day weekend for me or after the holidays. Maybe we can plan if for something like February or march so we can give everyone plenty of time to make plans and get extra money together.

Adult beverages? You must mean something like iced tea or ginger ale
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Hey, anybody know a good spot to wash the jeep in Dallas? I'm in an apartment and there's no wash rack.
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Where in D do you live? It's a big place.
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Hey Dana,

Well you know I don't care where it's at, but I've not seen one with a wash rack and if you have let me know, as I have to get under the dag gum thing real good.

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Good point! I'm in the medical district near parkland hospital.
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I just wanted to post something...

I'm only posting this in hopes someone gets something out of this. It doesn't matter if your an exert off reader, an intermediate, a novice or just brand new. This is what we should all adhere too. One of the reasons I felt compelled to post this was because we rag on David A LOT! And to us it actually a joke but sometimes I don't think he takes it that way and looking back if I were a new person thinking about keeping for the first time with us and read the crap we've posted about poor David, unless it's Marty complaining about Tom going to slow .? None of it is meant for anything to poke fun. But I know our talk probably intimidates people because talks intimidated me my first time out. So I wanted to post this

Each of us has been the "New Guy" at some point in time... in school, at the "Y", or, perhaps, a new church your parents took you to as a kid. We have all felt the anticipation and sometimes dread at going out and trying something different. The same feelings and concerns are felt by new 4 wheelers. These feelings may be amplified at large events and gatherings.

Think back (some of you may have to think WAAAAAAYYYYY back) to when you were new to the sport. You probably felt some of the following (depending on age, personality, etc.); concern, gung-ho, worry, a need/desire to fit in, expectations - what do they expect, what do I expect of myself, or even fright (although most of us would never admit it).

I think that we as statesman of the sport that we love so much should go out of our way to make everyone feel welcome on the trail; or even when they show up for a meeting. I think that most people in the sport attempt to do this, but I also know that there are some people that have the attitude of "If it ain't extreme, I don't care" This is evident when we meet some of our fellow "enthusiasts" on the trail, but the majority will always take the time to help out the new guys.

I think a good rule of thumb is to make sure that our new friends (especially those in our own clubs) understand the events that we have outlined or planned. One idea is to create a listing of the expected trails and the relative toughness of those trails in an easy to understand form. This could be a formal thing or simply a personal thing - perhaps take a new person aside (one that has expressed interest in a run you are going to) and help them out.

We also need to make sure that each individual (new or old to the sport) has the ability to say "No, I am not doing that." This is not a point at which we should give someone criticism. Instead, this is a point where we should praise that person for using their head to point out when and where THEY need to draw the line. We have some responsibility to these new people and their families. We also want them to go back to work and to their everyday lives and feel like they like the sport and us.

Why do I say they need to like what they are doing? Simply because most of the other people around them just won't understand - and now they probably don't either. If they leave an event feeling down or upset because they got on a wrong trail or everyone refused to help them, then it becomes very easy for them to agree with the time honored statement of "Why would you want to do that with your vehicle?"

Four wheeling is a great family sport. Both the classic family (Mom, Dad, kids, pets, etc) and the 'wheeling family (our clubs, friends, trail buddies, late night mechanics that stay open for us, guys who own welders etc.). It is our duty to help maintain and expand our families so that this sport can grow and prosper to bring new generations the thrill of tackling that hill for the first time.

List of "New Guy" Truths (They work for all 'wheelers' but some people won't admit it):

1. Never be afraid to say "NO".
2. Remember it's your vehicle and your well-being.
3. Just because someone else can, you might not. If someone else can't, you might.
4. The vehicle is only half the battle - the driver is the other 75%.
5. Making it look easy takes experience and experience takes time.
6. Skill can never be made up for with equipment.
7. Know your vehicle and it's limitations - AND YOURS.
8. Don't drink and drive (on the street or on the trail).
9. Stock vehicles can have fun too.
10. It ain't what you bought; it's how you build it. (Of course the part of the saying that they never finish is: How you build it depends on what you want to do with it - which might simply be to get down to your favorite fishing hole!).

In the end, I would extend a challenge to every member of the four wheeling family to aid in the endeavor to bring new people into the family. And, I would encourage all the new four wheelers to not be afraid to ask questions. What trails should I run? What's the best line to try? What's the best part to buy? What shop should I use? Which locker is better? Why did you do that? Just never ask the dreaded "What's the best vehicle?" - unless, of course, you want to spend the night having a knock down, drag out, bloody, fist-a-cuffs debate!

Remember, that everyone in four wheeling has an opinion. Everyone will be happy to give their opinion to you. Your best bet is to find people you know and trust, listen to them, and then make your own decision based on what you want to do or accomplish. I would like to think that most of the 'wheelers I run with are those type of people.
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I just wanted to post something...

I'm only posting this in hopes someone gets something out of this. It doesn't matter if your an exert off reader, an intermediate, a novice or just brand new. This is what we should all adhere too. One of the reasons I felt compelled to post this was because we rag on David A LOT! And to us it actually a joke but sometimes I don't think he takes it that way and looking back if I were a new person thinking about keeping for the first time with us and read the crap we've posted about poor David, unless it's Marty complaining about Tom going to slow .? None of it is meant for anything to poke fun. But I know our talk probably intimidates people because talks intimidated me my first time out. So I wanted to post this

Each of us has been the "New Guy" at some point in time... in school, at the "Y", or, perhaps, a new church your parents took you to as a kid. We have all felt the anticipation and sometimes dread at going out and trying something different. The same feelings and concerns are felt by new 4 wheelers. These feelings may be amplified at large events and gatherings.

Think back (some of you may have to think WAAAAAAYYYYY back) to when you were new to the sport. You probably felt some of the following (depending on age, personality, etc.); concern, gung-ho, worry, a need/desire to fit in, expectations - what do they expect, what do I expect of myself, or even fright (although most of us would never admit it).

I think that we as statesman of the sport that we love so much should go out of our way to make everyone feel welcome on the trail; or even when they show up for a meeting. I think that most people in the sport attempt to do this, but I also know that there are some people that have the attitude of "If it ain't extreme, I don't care" This is evident when we meet some of our fellow "enthusiasts" on the trail, but the majority will always take the time to help out the new guys.

I think a good rule of thumb is to make sure that our new friends (especially those in our own clubs) understand the events that we have outlined or planned. One idea is to create a listing of the expected trails and the relative toughness of those trails in an easy to understand form. This could be a formal thing or simply a personal thing - perhaps take a new person aside (one that has expressed interest in a run you are going to) and help them out.

We also need to make sure that each individual (new or old to the sport) has the ability to say "No, I am not doing that." This is not a point at which we should give someone criticism. Instead, this is a point where we should praise that person for using their head to point out when and where THEY need to draw the line. We have some responsibility to these new people and their families. We also want them to go back to work and to their everyday lives and feel like they like the sport and us.

Why do I say they need to like what they are doing? Simply because most of the other people around them just won't understand - and now they probably don't either. If they leave an event feeling down or upset because they got on a wrong trail or everyone refused to help them, then it becomes very easy for them to agree with the time honored statement of "Why would you want to do that with your vehicle?"

Four wheeling is a great family sport. Both the classic family (Mom, Dad, kids, pets, etc) and the 'wheeling family (our clubs, friends, trail buddies, late night mechanics that stay open for us, guys who own welders etc.). It is our duty to help maintain and expand our families so that this sport can grow and prosper to bring new generations the thrill of tackling that hill for the first time.

List of "New Guy" Truths (They work for all 'wheelers' but some people won't admit it):

1. Never be afraid to say "NO".
2. Remember it's your vehicle and your well-being.
3. Just because someone else can, you might not. If someone else can't, you might.
4. The vehicle is only half the battle - the driver is the other 75%.
5. Making it look easy takes experience and experience takes time.
6. Skill can never be made up for with equipment.
7. Know your vehicle and it's limitations - AND YOURS.
8. Don't drink and drive (on the street or on the trail).
9. Stock vehicles can have fun too.
10. It ain't what you bought; it's how you build it. (Of course the part of the saying that they never finish is: How you build it depends on what you want to do with it - which might simply be to get down to your favorite fishing hole!).

In the end, I would extend a challenge to every member of the four wheeling family to aid in the endeavor to bring new people into the family. And, I would encourage all the new four wheelers to not be afraid to ask questions. What trails should I run? What's the best line to try? What's the best part to buy? What shop should I use? Which locker is better? Why did you do that? Just never ask the dreaded "What's the best vehicle?" - unless, of course, you want to spend the night having a knock down, drag out, bloody, fist-a-cuffs debate!

Remember, that everyone in four wheeling has an opinion. Everyone will be happy to give their opinion to you. Your best bet is to find people you know and trust, listen to them, and then make your own decision based on what you want to do or accomplish. I would like to think that most of the 'wheelers I run with are those type of people.
OH and 50...... I learned an awesome trick for getting 99% of the mud from under the jeep. It's so simple I can't believe I didn't think about it!!!!!!
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Those types of people - david your included! Scouted ahead and got out and walked back up to make sure I hit every spot, every line perfect! And I thank you for that. Even though I blew two tires, I don't blame you because it was my in-experience on where to put my sway bar. But I am happy it happened, because it showed the generosity and spence of family we all had. That and it got me a new set of Kevlar shoes out of it which lead to many early major upgrade :thumbs: now if I can get Marty's old butt to drive at geriatric speed when behind me, he'd be saying "that's a good speed to" not too slow lol. Sorry I'm cautious when I'm a lone and even more cautious leading the pack and having no navigator . So live with it old man


OH and 50...... I learned an awesome trick for getting 99% of the mud from under the jeep. It's so simple I can't believe I didn't think about it!!!!!!
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I'm only posting this in hopes someone gets something out of this. It doesn't matter if your an exert off reader, an intermediate, a novice or just brand new. This is what we should all adhere too. One of the reasons I felt compelled to post this was because we rag on David A LOT! And to us it actually a joke but sometimes I don't think he takes it that way and looking back if I were a new person thinking about keeping for the first time with us and read the crap we've posted about poor David, unless it's Marty complaining about Tom going to slow .? None of it is meant for anything to poke fun. But I know our talk probably intimidates people because talks intimidated me my first time out. So I wanted to post this

Each of us has been the "New Guy" at some point in time... in school, at the "Y", or, perhaps, a new church your parents took you to as a kid. We have all felt the anticipation and sometimes dread at going out and trying something different. The same feelings and concerns are felt by new 4 wheelers. These feelings may be amplified at large events and gatherings.

Think back (some of you may have to think WAAAAAAYYYYY back) to when you were new to the sport. You probably felt some of the following (depending on age, personality, etc.); concern, gung-ho, worry, a need/desire to fit in, expectations - what do they expect, what do I expect of myself, or even fright (although most of us would never admit it).

I think that we as statesman of the sport that we love so much should go out of our way to make everyone feel welcome on the trail; or even when they show up for a meeting. I think that most people in the sport attempt to do this, but I also know that there are some people that have the attitude of "If it ain't extreme, I don't care" This is evident when we meet some of our fellow "enthusiasts" on the trail, but the majority will always take the time to help out the new guys.

I think a good rule of thumb is to make sure that our new friends (especially those in our own clubs) understand the events that we have outlined or planned. One idea is to create a listing of the expected trails and the relative toughness of those trails in an easy to understand form. This could be a formal thing or simply a personal thing - perhaps take a new person aside (one that has expressed interest in a run you are going to) and help them out.

We also need to make sure that each individual (new or old to the sport) has the ability to say "No, I am not doing that." This is not a point at which we should give someone criticism. Instead, this is a point where we should praise that person for using their head to point out when and where THEY need to draw the line. We have some responsibility to these new people and their families. We also want them to go back to work and to their everyday lives and feel like they like the sport and us.

Why do I say they need to like what they are doing? Simply because most of the other people around them just won't understand - and now they probably don't either. If they leave an event feeling down or upset because they got on a wrong trail or everyone refused to help them, then it becomes very easy for them to agree with the time honored statement of "Why would you want to do that with your vehicle?"

Four wheeling is a great family sport. Both the classic family (Mom, Dad, kids, pets, etc) and the 'wheeling family (our clubs, friends, trail buddies, late night mechanics that stay open for us, guys who own welders etc.). It is our duty to help maintain and expand our families so that this sport can grow and prosper to bring new generations the thrill of tackling that hill for the first time.

List of "New Guy" Truths (They work for all 'wheelers' but some people won't admit it):

1. Never be afraid to say "NO".
2. Remember it's your vehicle and your well-being.
3. Just because someone else can, you might not. If someone else can't, you might.
4. The vehicle is only half the battle - the driver is the other 75%.
5. Making it look easy takes experience and experience takes time.
6. Skill can never be made up for with equipment.
7. Know your vehicle and it's limitations - AND YOURS.
8. Don't drink and drive (on the street or on the trail).
9. Stock vehicles can have fun too.
10. It ain't what you bought; it's how you build it. (Of course the part of the saying that they never finish is: How you build it depends on what you want to do with it - which might simply be to get down to your favorite fishing hole!).

In the end, I would extend a challenge to every member of the four wheeling family to aid in the endeavor to bring new people into the family. And, I would encourage all the new four wheelers to not be afraid to ask questions. What trails should I run? What's the best line to try? What's the best part to buy? What shop should I use? Which locker is better? Why did you do that? Just never ask the dreaded "What's the best vehicle?" - unless, of course, you want to spend the night having a knock down, drag out, bloody, fist-a-cuffs debate!

Remember, that everyone in four wheeling has an opinion. Everyone will be happy to give their opinion to you. Your best bet is to find people you know and trust, listen to them, and then make your own decision based on what you want to do or accomplish. I would like to think that most of the 'wheelers I run with are those type of people.
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Get one of those little rotating sprinklers from Walmart and sit it under there for an hour. Works really well.
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Good idea, but not knowing what's in the tall grass makes me more "Afraid" than the mud... LOL

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Or, go to Dana's house and get him drunk, then he will go to cleaning like no one has ever seen. "D" can't stand a dirty Jeep...

Oh, by the way I got the new Sig 9MM 1911 style today... All I can say is "Sweet"!!! P938 Black Out!

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Or, go to Dana's house and get him drunk, then he will go to cleaning like no one has ever seen. "D" can't stand a dirty Jeep...

Oh, by the way I got the new Sig 9MM 1911 style today... All I can say is "Sweet"!!! P938 Black Out!

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You got that right. No dirty vehicles in my garage.
The Big gun show is this weekend. Anyone want to go?
I hope everyone here has a wonderful and safe holiday.
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Or, go to Dana's house and get him drunk, then he will go to cleaning like no one has ever seen. "D" can't stand a dirty Jeep...

Oh, by the way I got the new Sig 9MM 1911 style today... All I can say is "Sweet"!!! P938 Black Out!

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I'm only posting this in hopes someone gets something out of this. It doesn't matter if your an exert off reader, an intermediate, a novice or just brand new. This is what we should all adhere too. One of the reasons I felt compelled to post this was because we rag on David A LOT! And to us it actually a joke but sometimes I don't think he takes it that way and looking back if I were a new person thinking about keeping for the first time with us and read the crap we've posted about poor David, unless it's Marty complaining about Tom going to slow .? None of it is meant for anything to poke fun. But I know our talk probably intimidates people because talks intimidated me my first time out. So I wanted to post this

Each of us has been the "New Guy" at some point in time... in school, at the "Y", or, perhaps, a new church your parents took you to as a kid. We have all felt the anticipation and sometimes dread at going out and trying something different. The same feelings and concerns are felt by new 4 wheelers. These feelings may be amplified at large events and gatherings.

Think back (some of you may have to think WAAAAAAYYYYY back) to when you were new to the sport. You probably felt some of the following (depending on age, personality, etc.); concern, gung-ho, worry, a need/desire to fit in, expectations - what do they expect, what do I expect of myself, or even fright (although most of us would never admit it).

I think that we as statesman of the sport that we love so much should go out of our way to make everyone feel welcome on the trail; or even when they show up for a meeting. I think that most people in the sport attempt to do this, but I also know that there are some people that have the attitude of "If it ain't extreme, I don't care" This is evident when we meet some of our fellow "enthusiasts" on the trail, but the majority will always take the time to help out the new guys.

I think a good rule of thumb is to make sure that our new friends (especially those in our own clubs) understand the events that we have outlined or planned. One idea is to create a listing of the expected trails and the relative toughness of those trails in an easy to understand form. This could be a formal thing or simply a personal thing - perhaps take a new person aside (one that has expressed interest in a run you are going to) and help them out.

We also need to make sure that each individual (new or old to the sport) has the ability to say "No, I am not doing that." This is not a point at which we should give someone criticism. Instead, this is a point where we should praise that person for using their head to point out when and where THEY need to draw the line. We have some responsibility to these new people and their families. We also want them to go back to work and to their everyday lives and feel like they like the sport and us.

Why do I say they need to like what they are doing? Simply because most of the other people around them just won't understand - and now they probably don't either. If they leave an event feeling down or upset because they got on a wrong trail or everyone refused to help them, then it becomes very easy for them to agree with the time honored statement of "Why would you want to do that with your vehicle?"

Four wheeling is a great family sport. Both the classic family (Mom, Dad, kids, pets, etc) and the 'wheeling family (our clubs, friends, trail buddies, late night mechanics that stay open for us, guys who own welders etc.). It is our duty to help maintain and expand our families so that this sport can grow and prosper to bring new generations the thrill of tackling that hill for the first time.

List of "New Guy" Truths (They work for all 'wheelers' but some people won't admit it):

1. Never be afraid to say "NO".
2. Remember it's your vehicle and your well-being.
3. Just because someone else can, you might not. If someone else can't, you might.
4. The vehicle is only half the battle - the driver is the other 75%.
5. Making it look easy takes experience and experience takes time.
6. Skill can never be made up for with equipment.
7. Know your vehicle and it's limitations - AND YOURS.
8. Don't drink and drive (on the street or on the trail).
9. Stock vehicles can have fun too.
10. It ain't what you bought; it's how you build it. (Of course the part of the saying that they never finish is: How you build it depends on what you want to do with it - which might simply be to get down to your favorite fishing hole!).

In the end, I would extend a challenge to every member of the four wheeling family to aid in the endeavor to bring new people into the family. And, I would encourage all the new four wheelers to not be afraid to ask questions. What trails should I run? What's the best line to try? What's the best part to buy? What shop should I use? Which locker is better? Why did you do that? Just never ask the dreaded "What's the best vehicle?" - unless, of course, you want to spend the night having a knock down, drag out, bloody, fist-a-cuffs debate!

Remember, that everyone in four wheeling has an opinion. Everyone will be happy to give their opinion to you. Your best bet is to find people you know and trust, listen to them, and then make your own decision based on what you want to do or accomplish. I would like to think that most of the 'wheelers I run with are those type of people.
Hey Tom,

How touching, but looking at your grammar, editing and spelling I can tell you have been drinking, thinking and posting again...

As far as making someone feel good about what we do, they should know that it's very dangerous to their Jeep, Family and their Personal Self up front. That's what we do, or do not! I'll be the 1st person to say NO to anything I think is over my head or my fellow "Jeepers" and I don't feel any pressure whatsoever to do something stupid, since I can do that all on my own! I feel you did that all on your own 3 weeks ago, with no encouragement from me!

With that said David always tells everyone before any outing the in and out's of every ride and he takes no responsibility for someone doing something they don't feel comfortable with.

David is a "Great Leader" and my messing with him is between him and I alone, so we don't need a mediator at this time. I do talk to him outside of this site before we go out regarding these kind of things!

Nuff Said, because "I'll Never Tell" what you did 3 weeks ago, as promised! Well at least on line... LOL,,, That was my Promise!

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Old 11-21-2012, 09:14 PM   #656
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You got that right. No dirty vehicles in my garage.
The Big gun show is this weekend. Anyone want to go?
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Hey Dana,

If you looked at the P938's price, I'm out on buying anything else, but I'm game at looking with you this weekend.

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guns are dangerous, y'all be careful
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Mike, come with us just for the fun if it. I need a new cc gun. Dana
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maybe, when and where? I could find something to shoot I'm sure. I could start with my 30-06 I dropped for the first time in 20yrs
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Scratch that. Go hit the trails, grab a bit and then go to alpine. Then I can bring a couple of everything.
Hey Tom,

I haven't been to Alpine in 20 years or so! However I do have a couple of "Big Boy's" I haven't shot yet, so if you want to break them in let me know?

I love skeet shooting myself.

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Sig P239: .380
Sig P938: 9MM Para.
Para USA .45 cal.
Taurus PT 92AF 9MM
Taurus PT 101 40 Cal.
Ruger 22/45 MKII

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Colt LE M4 Carbine...Nuff Said!
Hi-Point .45 cal Carbine 4594
Hi-Point . 9MM Carbine 995
Mossy .308 w/ scope
Mossy 30.06 w/scope
Mossy .12 gauge 18" pistol grip
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