If your not in San Antonio, I guess order online. Know we just a meet on Sat night at hooters, and I heard a few others mention how the meets are bad in that we always wanna spend more money on our Jeeps afterwards. While I was looking at some oh crap grips I discovered 4wd is having a 20% summer clearance sale. If I can get my new bumper for 20% off I may have to drop the cash. Only downside, sale ends midnight tomorrow (July 16) good excuse to give myself a birthday present.