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Old 04-14-2012, 09:31 PM   #61
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Another great get-together!

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And this was the video I shot back in 1965 when we all met at Slater's:


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Don, That antique video is way cool....nice effect!

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That was some good food! Thanks Armand for organizing again!

My vote for future meets would be someplace quick and relatively inexpensive. Like an In N' Out, 5 guys. Even a taco stand or sandwich shop would be good. Less time eating, more time hanging out outside.

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My vote for future meets would be someplace quick and relatively inexpensive. Like an In N' Out, 5 guys. Even a taco stand or sandwich shop would be good. Less time eating, more time hanging out outside.
I wouldn't mind an In-N-Out, but we'd have to change the name of the Brew N Chew, since there's no brew at In-N-Out. And we'd need to find one with a big enough parking lot for us to park together. Any other votes for In-N-Out?

And do we want to try a different area? Anaheim's 1-1.5 hours each way for me on a Saturday, depending on traffic, but it seems to be central for the group.
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I personally could care less about having alcohol there, but I understand others may want it.

Other suggestions of places that aren't very expensive that have alcohol: pretty sure Baja Fresh and Chipotle serve. The Hat (pastrami) would be good, can't remember if they serve drink there too though. Plus there aren't that many locations.

The Hat, World Famous Pastrami

Pizza is always good too and they always serve drinks.
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I really liked Big Johns pizza in riverside. Perfect place. But it's not too OC friendly as far as driving distance.
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I really liked Big Johns pizza in riverside. Perfect place. But it's not too OC friendly as far as driving distance.
ide be down to drive out that far if i knew it was goin to be a sweet place to hang out nd maybe it it was a place that one of our fellow WF members owned *cough* urshop *cough* or some place that had a rti ramp either one of those would be cool, or both. idk whoo tho would have a place like that. who ever it is i bet there really cool too. (lol)
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Had a great time yesterday. Designed my own Burger and lived to talk about it. Thank you to Armand for setting this up.

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ide be down to drive out that far if i knew it was goin to be a sweet place to hang out nd maybe it it was a place that one of our fellow WF members owned *cough* urshop *cough* or some place that had a rti ramp either one of those would be cool, or both. idk whoo tho would have a place like that. who ever it is i bet there really cool too. (lol)


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Designed my own Burger and lived to talk about it. Thank you to Armand for setting this up.
You're welcome.

I designed my own burger too, but I'm still not sure if I'm going to live. It was plenty spicy, and my gut is still talking about it.
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ide be down to drive out that far if i knew it was goin to be a sweet place to hang out nd maybe it it was a place that one of our fellow WF members owned *cough* urshop *cough* or some place that had a rti ramp either one of those would be cool, or both. idk whoo tho would have a place like that. who ever it is i bet there really cool too. (lol)
Yeah Coop, Im with you. That would be very cool... it is too bad we dont know someone like that....and with an RTI ramp...wow..I would totally be down for that.......someday...
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Yeah Coop, Im with you. That would be very cool... it is too bad we dont know someone like that....and with an RTI ramp...wow..I would totally be down for that.......someday...
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Like a place that would do a Sport D30 to Rubi D44 axle swap at a great price? Maybe in some random city like Yucaipa? Yeah, that would be great!
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You guys are killin me! I'm very excited about this project, and I'll make it happen.
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You guys are killin me! I'm very excited about this project, and I'll make it happen.
Oh wow...now that you mention it, you do fit that description rather well. You would have had to do it eventually or we would have kept hinting until ya did Seriously it would be very cool to have some fellow Jeepers check out your place. I am close by and would be happy to help if you need anything!
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You guys didn't get to check out my dual battery system yesterday because we didn't drive my Jeep, but for next time there's even more to show because today I installed the in-cab monitor and control accessories for this system.

- The green LED turns on when the batteries are paired. The smart solenoid in the engine compartment automatically pairs or isolates the batteries depending on voltage levels, so this just lets me know the status.

- The push button immediately to the right of the LED is a normally-open momentary switch. When pressed while the batteries are isolated, the batteries will be force paired for 1 minute. In the event that my main battery becomes drained, this allows me to give myself a jump start (from auxiliary battery to main battery) without leaving the driver seat or popping the hood.

- The push button on the right is a push-on/push-off switch to turn on or off the volt meters below. The top volt meter is for the main battery, and the bottom one is for the auxiliary battery. Because the batteries are paired in the picture, voltage levels read the same for both batteries.



And at the same time, I also wired in a 4-port power port, connected to the auxiliary battery, so that I can run plug-in accessories with the engine off, and not drain the main battery. It's mounted with velcro, and uses plug connectors for the power and ground, so that I can remove the power port if I want to. Power is also turned on and off with a hidden switch, so I can cut the power to it when I want to.

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That is just fantastic.

So normally the batteries are isolated, and the readout will show their individual voltages? And when they are paired it averages the voltages and shows them as the same?
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So normally the batteries are isolated, and the readout will show their individual voltages? And when they are paired it averages the voltages and shows them as the same?
This is how the smart isolator works....

First of all, only the OEM wiring harness is connected to the main battery. All accessories are connected to the auxiliary battery.

Now, when the main battery's voltage is at least 13.2 for 2 minutes, the batteries are paired. In this state, both volt meters will show the combined voltage. Both batteries will supply power to anything connected to either battery, and both batteries get charged when the engine is on.

When the combined voltage drops to 12.7 or below for 1 minute (presumably from drawing power while the engine is off), the batteries are isolated. In this state, the volt meters will display the individual voltages of each battery. All accessories connected to the auxiliary battery will only draw from that battery, preserving the main battery for starting the engine. When the engine is turned on, only the main battery will get charged until its voltage returns to at least 13.2 for 2 minutes.
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My vote for future meets would be someplace quick and relatively inexpensive. Like an In N' Out, 5 guys. Even a taco stand or sandwich shop would be good. Less time eating, more time hanging out outside.
I wouldn't mind an In-N-Out, but we'd have to change the name of the Brew N Chew, since there's no brew at In-N-Out. And we'd need to find one with a big enough parking lot for us to park together. Any other votes for In-N-Out?

And do we want to try a different area? Anaheim's 1-1.5 hours each way for me on a Saturday, depending on traffic, but it seems to be central for the group.
The In-N-Out at Fullerton Town Center appears to have plenty of parking, if we want to stay near the Anaheim area, and if we want to go with In-N-Out.

Buena Park In-N-Out also appears to have plenty of parking.
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What?! Our mall crawlin' Grand Cherokee not cool enough for the pic and vid? Lol!

That was a good time guys. We were planning on bailing at 12:30, but when our burgers hadn't even arrived by that time, we ended up canceling our afternoon plans and hung around afterwards after all.

Oh, and I haven't gotten around yet to trying the bacon brownie we took to go. I'm still full.

New venue for next month? Ideas?
So, ideas...here we go: May 19th, Brew n Chew at the Jeeperformance shop in Yucaipa. JPi will supply the Chew, all the participants are welcome, and encouraged, to bring the brew. For insurance reasons, I can't supply the suds. I will have soft drinks available. But I can have a fantastic taco man there, with all you can eat tacos, chicken, fish and beef, beans, rice, and loads of grilled jalapeños and fresh onions, for three hours. We can do some RTI ramp suspension flex, and I'm sure some music and give always could be fun. Let me know what you think.
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So, ideas...here we go: May 19th, Brew n Chew at the Jeeperformance shop in Yucaipa. JPi will supply the Chew, all the participants are welcome, and encouraged, to bring the brew. For insurance reasons, I can't supply the suds. I will have soft drinks available. But I can have a fantastic taco man there, with all you can eat tacos, chicken, fish and beef, beans, rice, and loads of grilled jalapeños and fresh onions, for three hours. We can do some RTI ramp suspension flex, and I'm sure some music and give always could be fun. Let me know what you think.
Stan, That sounds great to me, can't wait to see the new shop. Tacos and jeeps...how can that miss? Count me in and let me know if I can lend you a hand with anything!
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Thanks Bill, I'll let you know.
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So, ideas...here we go: May 19th, Brew n Chew at the Jeeperformance shop in Yucaipa. JPi will supply the Chew, all the participants are welcome, and encouraged, to bring the brew. For insurance reasons, I can't supply the suds. I will have soft drinks available. But I can have a fantastic taco man there, with all you can eat tacos, chicken, fish and beef, beans, rice, and loads of grilled jalapeños and fresh onions, for three hours. We can do some RTI ramp suspension flex, and I'm sure some music and give always could be fun. Let me know what you think.
I'm in! Hopefully I will have already picked up my Jeep from your shop by then.
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I'm in! Hopefully I will have already picked up my Jeep from your shop by then.
Or we can just keep it on the rack and admire the changes
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May 19th, Brew n Chew at the Jeeperformance shop in Yucaipa. JPi will supply the Chew, all the participants are welcome, and encouraged, to bring the brew. For insurance reasons, I can't supply the suds. I will have soft drinks available. But I can have a fantastic taco man there, with all you can eat tacos, chicken, fish and beef, beans, rice, and loads of grilled jalapeños and fresh onions, for three hours. We can do some RTI ramp suspension flex, and I'm sure some music and give always could be fun. Let me know what you think.
That's sounds awesome! I'm definitely in, and will gladly bring a cooler of brew to share. Are you going to start the thread for this?
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Count the Turd clan in for this one. Sounds great and I can out flex anyone with my advanced technology, square eyed, leaf sprung, YJ on the RTI ramp. hahaha. I will gladly bring along some suds to kick in.

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That's sounds awesome! I'm definitely in, and will gladly bring a cooler of brew to share. Are you going to start the thread for this?
No way, you do a fantastic job of organizing these meets, I'll leave that to you.
The address is 32215 Dunlap Blvd, suite B
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Let's do an 11:30 am start time, and it ends when we stop having fun. Any questions, call anytime: 909-615-0558
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Awesome! Here it is.

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Another great get-together!

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Pic & Video look great..! Had a good time.

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