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Old 11-25-2012, 09:26 PM   #31
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What's the matter, want to be a cop growing up but couldn't cut it? You're a douche...

I will PM you JV... I have all the info you will need and where to start.
Never denied I was a douche and while i respect the profession, a career in L.E. never crossed my mind.

I'm one of those who believes that guns don't kill people. People kill people(intentionally or not) and if we can discourage a few oddballs to stay away from guns, its all the better for the rest of us. JV and I cleared up that he's not one of those oddballs.

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That's the first time I've ever seen a gun like that! It looks interesting, what's the make and model?
target shooting pistols can get pricey. if you're interested in shooting as a competitive sport, check out... Welcome to USPSA.org - Home of the United States Practical Shooting Association

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Old 11-25-2012, 09:55 PM   #32
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It's a custom Remington XP100. Custom Stock, Magna ported 15 inch Barrel.Custom trigger. But I got a great deal on it used. Came with 300 rounds. They sell for about 1200 to 1400 used. The round is a 300 Savage Deer Rifle cartridge. It really sounds off when you touch off a round.

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Just walk into a gun shop and find one you like. The shop will be able to do all the paperwork necessary and point you to a local firearms course.

Figure out if you want a handgun, rifle, or BOTH! I vote both...

Best advice I can give is don't buy right away. Go to a shooting range and try out all the different 'rental' guns.

I thought I wanted a 44 magnum because I saw it in a Dirty Harry movie. Fired one at a range and decided I don't need that much power... I ended up getting a Beretta 9mm and a 25mm. Also bought a 12 gauge shotgun.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:24 PM   #34
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Revolvers, really can't go wrong with a S&W. If you're looking at semi auto, I'd steer you more towards a Springfield XP or Glock. Definately test fire many different rentals, but a consideration not mentioned is caliber. Id suggest based on your list sticking with a smaller caliber like a 9mm cal S/A or 38 revolver (non +P ammo for practice) for cost. Since you're new, you'll need to practice a lot. A 45 cal 1911 will cost you a fortune. Safety course and practice, you'll be fine. Figure in Ca., negative on the C.C. permit, you'll have better chances of winning the lotto, haha.

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Just walk into a gun shop and find one you like. The shop will be able to do all the paperwork necessary and point you to a local firearms course.

Figure out if you want a handgun, rifle, or BOTH! I vote both...

Best advice I can give is don't buy right away. Go to a shooting range and try out all the different 'rental' guns.

I thought I wanted a 44 magnum because I saw it in a Dirty Harry movie. Fired one at a range and decided I don't need that much power... I ended up getting a Beretta 9mm and a 25mm. Also bought a 12 gauge shotgun.
I probably will be getting a rifle too, my dad has an old carbine that he loves and I might get something similar, I think his might be a Springfield but not sure.
I love the look of a 44magnum but it's a huge caliber, I probably will look into a 9mm.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:42 PM   #36
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Revolvers, really can't go wrong with a S&W. If you're looking at semi auto, I'd steer you more towards a Springfield XP or Glock. Definately test fire many different rentals, but a consideration not mentioned is caliber. Id suggest based on your list sticking with a smaller caliber like a 9mm cal S/A or 38 revolver (non +P ammo for practice) for cost. Since you're new, you'll need to practice a lot. A 45 cal 1911 will cost you a fortune. Safety course and practice, you'll be fine. Figure in Ca., negative on the C.C. permit, you'll have better chances of winning the lotto, haha.

Good luck.
The classic look of the revolver is my first choice, something American west oh yea!
Yea, lots of practice will be necessary.
Haha yea I figured a C.C. Would be really hard here.
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I think everyone should own a .22 rimfire as their first firearm. Ammo is cheep, easy to learn to shoot, and can be passed down to multiple generations of first time shooters. Rugar, Standard auto for semi auto pistol or single six for "cowboy" style. Rifle, 10-22. Your love for the sport will only grow after your first rimfire.
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1911's have drop in 22 conversion barrels. 5 minutes work to switch from 45 to 22. Looks and shoots the same.
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So I have finally been able to convince my parents to allow me to buy a gun, of course after I go through all the legal procedures to attain it.
I live in California so I know the regulations here are more strict. Can any experienced owners help me out with what ill need to go through the process, what to expect from it, and any helpful input or links.
A bit of background, I've always been thrilled by guns, and have wanted one for a while. I'm 21 a college student, still live with the parents for financial reasons, I hold school and a full time job.the reason I want a handgun is for hobby purposes(shooting range, target practice, and looks) I'm not a huge fan of hunting. Any recommendation on which handgun to get would be nice, I've been looking at a S&W model 586 as I love the look of a a classic revolver, but have also looked through a selection of 1911s. If any more info is needed I will be able to provide it as requested.
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Picking a firearm is like buying a pair of shoes. Although everyone may have a preference, good experience, or just plain like some, no one can really pick your shoes or gun for you. You have to go to the store and see what appeals to you and try them on, walk in them... the same goes for guns. Hit the range/ gun store and handle/ fire as many different types/ calibers/ and makes as possible. While there soak up all the info you can and then go home and do more research on what you liked. Also I encourage you to ignore all the gimmicks and tuff guy moral and just start small and go up from there. The last thing you want to do is harm your self or others by jumping up to a big cal. With no experience. Just like a pair of shoes you want your gun to be comfy and last. The best firearm for anyone is the weapon they can not only shoot,but shoot well. Take you time and do your research. Sorry for the essay,but hope this helps.
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1911's have drop in 22 conversion barrels. 5 minutes work to switch from 45 to 22. Looks and shoots the same.
my buddy has a 1911 with this conversion. Good thing about the 22 is, ammo is so much cheaper!

But for some reason, that 1911 would jam all the time.
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my buddy has a 1911 with this conversion. Good thing about the 22 is, ammo is so much cheaper!

But for some reason, that 1911 would jam all the time.
This...
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They are picky about ammo. You need to find which one cycles best in your barrel kit. The new ones have extra features to broaden the ammo that will provide enough force to properly cycle the recoil spring back to fully eject the empty and strip the new one. I am researching and looking for the right one for my 1911 right now.
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Ok so I checked with my "local" gun range, they're holding the next First Step Pistol Course on jan 5th, the dec. 1st one is full. The fee is $140 for a 7 hour course which covers everything, which they did not define fully other than rental semi, and revolver, I assume ammo and all the safety gear is provided, now I'm contemplating this one, but $140 might break my budget for now. Ill keep looking around.
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If you getting it for target shooting at both indoor and outdoor ranges you could look into the more target oriented guns. Mine while it shoots a 300 savage round kicks less than my 44 mag. It is a single shot but I find that I do slow fire most of the time as ammo even when you reload gets expensive.
Sweet piece Gunner but the ammo is probably not in a college boys budget. Also, some of the indoor ranges cannot accomodate rifle rounds
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I would guess the ammo is on you. Sadly, the initial class is going to cost (thanks CA.) but I don't think you have to pay again for anything unless you get a CCW. Which you can't get where you are
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Do you need the class to buy a rifle or shotgun? I mean the class teaches you a ton for gun safety which you really need if you have no experience. I think it is a good idea. I haven't bought a new gun is so long i don't know the laws anymore. I've got guns and buy ammo but I am looking at an AR7 for my Jeep Camp rifle.
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Do you need the class to buy a rifle or shotgun? I mean the class teaches you a ton for gun safety which you really need if you have no experience. I think it is a good idea. I haven't bought a new gun is so long i don't know the laws anymore. I've got guns and buy ammo but I am looking at an AR7 for my Jeep Camp rifle.
I don't think so for a long gun but I've had a CCW for so long I'm not sure.
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All answers are located here:

CA Attorney General Firearm FAQ

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Thanks. Quick read and I got my answers. No need for any legal mumbo jumbo with a long gun.
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Just FYI but any military stationed in cali don't have to take the course/test.
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You shouldn't need to take a class. When you buy a pistol they are required to take you through a basic "handgun safety test". It's a no-brainer that just shows you know how to load, unload, and clear the firearm. If you've never touched a pistol before, you'll see everything you need to know to basically operate the pistol. Before you can buy you also have to pass the HSC test which is a simple Q&A kinda like what you have to do for getting a drivers license. If you can't pass the HSC on the first pass, you really shouldn't be driving, voting, or even ordering pizza. It's that easy. Once you have a pistol you should easily be able to find someone to meet you at a range and help you get started with the first couple of magazines.

If you arn't sure what type of pistol you want, you can rent; however, most gunshops require two people at a time for rentals (suicide prevention).
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I thought the great city of San Francisco forbade possession of hand guns in city limits JV lemur?
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I thought the great city of San Francisco forbade possession of hand guns in city limits JV lemur?
I think your right. Although I believe you can Conceal Carry Pot, Crack, and Cocaine there. Those don't kill people.
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You gotta love the land of fruit and nuts huh? When I was in Oregon, I walked into the gun store, said "I'll take that one" hand over my ID, one phone call to the state patrol and I get walked out to my Jeep new gun in hand. I hated Oregon but I miss that. I had to wait two weeks to get the 10/22 I got for Christmas!!
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That 2-week wait is aggravating, especially since changing it to also include long guns too. I can almost go along with a 2-week wait for handguns but come on, for a shotgun, rifle, or even a .22? I haven't bought a new gun in a couple years but I am getting the itch for something new... maybe a .40 Glock or similar.
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What is the rule for carrying in a jeep? It's not like you can lock it in the trunk with the ammo some where else. I am guessing somewhere visible and ammo put in a bag in the back. On the trail locked and loaded?
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What is the rule for carrying in a jeep? It's not like you can lock it in the trunk with the ammo some where else. I am guessing somewhere visible and ammo put in a bag in the back. On the trail locked and loaded?
Get one of the under seat lock boxes.
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I thought the great city of San Francisco forbade possession of hand guns in city limits JV lemur?
I'm not sure about sf laws, I'm not in San Francisco itself, I'm about 45 mins from. Haven't been able to do much with the holidays, and school starting again, just don't have the cash for it at the moment unfortunate.
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Sig Sauer has a few polymer framed pistols in 22, 9, 40 & 45 configs - Sig quality without the $1k + price. Considered Sig's "best kept secret" by many gurus.

I'm considering this one in a .40
SP2022

I'm also considering this slick little 9 by Ruger. Would be a great carry piece if you have a CCW (which I do not...yet).
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