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Old 05-29-2012, 02:28 AM   #1
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Hi all I just did the Harding Truck Trail this weekend and had a few questions for anyone who has some experience on this trail or ones like it.

What would you consider this trail's difficulty? I didn't find it to be hard but still lots of fun.

In normal, dry conditions would you drive it in 4H? 4L? Or just 2W? I drove it in 4H and mostly kept it in 1st gear (I drive a manual). My buddy who has more experience mentioned it might be easier and less clutching to go in 4L and roll in 2 or 3rd gear.

Thoughts on that? I realize from reading some very hot debates in the general forum that choice of 2W, 4H and 4L is kind of a personal preference to some extent.

I'm relatively new to the off road driving so I'm looking to learn more, as much as I can from the more experienced members.

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None of that trail needs 4 wd but when it comes to the long downhill sections it is easier to use 4 low in order to not heat up the breaks.

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Old 05-29-2012, 08:00 PM   #3
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Thanks for your input. I figured 2W is plenty for this road but I'll admit, I was pretty excited to give the 4W a try. I haven't done any off roading in a Jeep since learning to drive stick in my buddy's CJ.

I thought Harding would be a good trial run to break in my new JK
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Everything near Santiago Peak is basically fire road and doesn’t need 4WD. There is an off-road park, Wildomar OHV, off South Main Divide (formerly Killen Trail). It has areas where you can practice technique. Lots of brush on some of the trails though. There is one spot call Bad Idea (it's painted on a rock just before you get there). And it really is a bad idea if you're not experienced. Warning though, this park will get boring really fast. If you want to have fun on fire roads that also have some more challenging side roads, go to Cleghorn. The trail starts at Cleghorn Rd off the 15 fwy. Best to have a GPS since there are so many trails in there. But nothing there is Black Diamond and the challenging routes can be bypassed by staying on the main fire road. I recommend always traveling with at least one other Jeep – just in case. Cleghorn is one of the easier runs but there have been some pretty bad accidents up there so never underestimate. It’s farther to get there than Santiago and Silverado (if you are in South OC too) but to have fun Jeeping, you really need to go to Lake Arrowhead, Big Bear, Calico, etc areas. Corral Canyon in San Diego is fun too.
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Thanks for the info that's really handy to know. Yeah the fire road wasn't too bad, just bumpy as hell

I'll have to check out the true 4WD spots, just to get some practice in if nothing else.
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Was the gate at the top of harding truck trail open where it connects to the main devide road? Usually it is closed when everything else is open.

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Old 05-31-2012, 09:08 PM   #7
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Was the gate at the top of harding truck trail open where it connects to the main devide road? Usually it is closed when everything else is open.

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It was open, if you're talking about the one I think you are. I drove up to the first cell tower. Next time I'll go up all the way
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:21 PM   #8
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Everything near Santiago Peak is basically fire road and doesn’t need 4WD. There is an off-road park, Wildomar OHV, off South Main Divide (formerly Killen Trail). It has areas where you can practice technique. Lots of brush on some of the trails though. There is one spot call Bad Idea (it's painted on a rock just before you get there). And it really is a bad idea if you're not experienced. Warning though, this park will get boring really fast. If you want to have fun on fire roads that also have some more challenging side roads, go to Cleghorn. The trail starts at Cleghorn Rd off the 15 fwy. Best to have a GPS since there are so many trails in there. But nothing there is Black Diamond and the challenging routes can be bypassed by staying on the main fire road. I recommend always traveling with at least one other Jeep – just in case. Cleghorn is one of the easier runs but there have been some pretty bad accidents up there so never underestimate. It’s farther to get there than Santiago and Silverado (if you are in South OC too) but to have fun Jeeping, you really need to go to Lake Arrowhead, Big Bear, Calico, etc areas. Corral Canyon in San Diego is fun too.
Can you give me directions or an address to Santiago Peak? I live in Westminster/Huntington Beach area and have been to (tried to go to cleghorn but was given crappy directions) but i know the trabuco canyon, Holy Jim area well. Can i get to santiago peak from holy jim?
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Not tryin to high jack your thread but... How do u get bad directions to cleghorn? It's a exit off the 15 Frwy. Plain and simple.
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Not tryin to high jack your thread but... How do u get bad directions to cleghorn? It's a exit off the 15 Frwy. Plain and simple.
You're funny. 15 North, Cleghorn Rd. Exit. Right before the 138. Easy, right?
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I'd think so. Lol. Maybe he was looking for a phisical address of cleghorn.
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I'd think so. Lol. Maybe he was looking for a phisical address of cleghorn.
The website I got the directions from brought me to a totally different place and it was just a bunch of private property that was fenced off
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That's weird man. It's a exit off the 15 Frwy in the Cajon Pass. Maybe next time u can run it. It's a fun trail for beginners to the highly modded.
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Hi all I just did the Harding Truck Trail this weekend and had a few questions for anyone who has some experience on this trail or ones like it.

What would you consider this trail's difficulty? I didn't find it to be hard but still lots of fun.

In normal, dry conditions would you drive it in 4H? 4L? Or just 2W? I drove it in 4H and mostly kept it in 1st gear (I drive a manual). My buddy who has more experience mentioned it might be easier and less clutching to go in 4L and roll in 2 or 3rd gear.

Thoughts on that? I realize from reading some very hot debates in the general forum that choice of 2W, 4H and 4L is kind of a personal preference to some extent.

I'm relatively new to the off road driving so I'm looking to learn more, as much as I can from the more experienced members.

hey i'm in trabuco canyon right by holy jims
let me know next time you want to hit this trail again.
So far I havn't found a gate thats ever been open to go on this trail
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Thanks for the info that's really handy to know. Yeah the fire road wasn't too bad, just bumpy as hell

I'll have to check out the true 4WD spots, just to get some practice in if nothing else.
Did you air down your tires? You'll have a much less bumpy ride.
There are a couple of ways to get to Santiago- we've gone from Skyline Drive & either Live Oak Canyon or Silverado Canyon via Main Divide. Try Goggle Earth to find the route. Been awhile and I can't remember which route we took. Or : Main Divide Road - Dirtopia, the Off-Road Encyclopedia

Keep in mind however that this is the time of the year when they start closing gates to the fire roads. Don't go out alone unless you know exactly where you're going and gate status. Otherwise you may find yourself at the end of a closed gate and have to turn around. (Skyline does get locked daily).

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