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Old 04-11-2013, 03:40 AM   #31
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Checked with my financial planner and she advised a very Biblical text.....it is not wise to be unequally yoked! So a set of Woods for the Red Dragon! Had a blast, thanks for all the postings to help with the confidence factor! Armor! Armor! And more armor is necessary!

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Personally, I think armor is more important as long as you don't mind a tug or two. Plus, make sure you're going with a patient group. You'll make it through, but it won't be easy without a locker.

It'd highly recommend full skids including CA's, diff covers, aftermarket tie rod.

Glad you enjoyed it Bob. I can't wait to do that trail again soon.
What are ca's ???

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Yeah I got some welding to get done under the jeep.
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Dang....purdy soon u guys r gonna need skid plates to protect ur skid plates....lol
why not relocate some of this junk up out of harms way ....just curious?
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Dang....purdy soon u guys r gonna need skid plates to protect ur skid plates....lol
why not relocate some of this junk up out of harms way ....just curious?
I need a TC skid for my TC skid!!!
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Dang....purdy soon u guys r gonna need skid plates to protect ur skid plates....lol
why not relocate some of this junk up out of harms way ....just curious?
Where can I get some skid plates for my skid plates ???? lol
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Dang....purdy soon u guys r gonna need skid plates to protect ur skid plates....lol
why not relocate some of this junk up out of harms way ....just curious?
I know on a TJ there isn't "a lot" that can be relocated.

Oil pan/tranny/TC is pretty obvious

Gas tank can be switched for an "in cab" fuel cell, or something like a Genright stretch tank...but in the end, the skid is cheaper.

Control arm skids are cheap (and I still dont have any haha), but in order to get those tucked away, you are looking at revamping the suspension. In reality, I havent hit the end (which is what covered with the skid) much. It is always the bracket itself...which then gets bent...and then gets a little crescent wrench work done on it to straighten it back out. When funds allow, I really want to do an overhaul on the suspension. Move the brackets, custom links, relocate the shocks, etc. The goal is to get the jeep as capable as I can without a wheelbase stretch (which who knows...this could be in the later future)...waterfalls are hard on the short wheelbase
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why not relocate some of this junk up out of harms way ....just curious?
I don't have your fabrications skills, but I plan to relocate CA with a mid arm set up in the future AMA (as money allows)
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Only problem with relocation is it's my DD and it is cheaper to skid than to move. I can't do my own work anymore and I'm not sure I need a rig that will do what yours does.Maybe when I get more experience that might change. Right now I am going on a diet kick for the jeep and myself. So watch for some weight slicing things to show up on the heep.
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Those r some great responses .....I'm gonna figure this out when I do the d44 swap on the front of my son's Xj....I'd like everything above the bottom of the axle tubes...no smacky smacky...
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Those r some great responses .....I'm gonna figure this out when I do the d44 swap on the front of my son's Xj....I'd like everything above the bottom of the axle tubes...no smacky smacky...
After seeing some builds with smooth tubes...all of those control arm brackets and shock brackets hanging down are eye sores Not sure why jeep engineered so many rock anchors haha
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Only problem with relocation is it's my DD and it is cheaper to skid than to move. I can't do my own work anymore and I'm not sure I need a rig that will do what yours does.Maybe when I get more experience that might change. Right now I am going on a diet kick for the jeep and myself. So watch for some weight slicing things to show up on the heep.
Your Jeep doesn't appear to be too heavy. You saved weight on the Savvy slides (about 40lbs) and heck you even saved 5 lbs by going aluminum on the anti rock bars... Where would you cut out weight?
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Your Jeep doesn't appear to be too heavy. You saved weight on the Savvy slides (about 40lbs) and heck you even saved 5 lbs by going aluminum on the anti rock bars... Where would you cut out weight?
Fiberglass body?
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Well the front bumper is going aluminum as is the rear. I am going to eliminate the tire carrier bumper. Then the steel armor is going aluminum too as are the Control Arms. That is for starters.
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Hey Geoff ...I'm hearin u about the waterfalls .....I've stretched my jeep from 93"stock (I think it was more like 91 when it had a 4"lift and boomerang shackles on it) to 100" and would still like to be out around 106" or more if I can do it without a comp cut....yuck! ....as far as the gas tank goes ....I'm building 2 ...12 gallon aluminum tanks that will be placed up in the unused portion of the wheel wells in front of my back tires after the stretch ....this well help with weight balance also...
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Hey Geoff ...I'm hearin u about the waterfalls .....I've stretched my jeep from 93"stock (I think it was more like 91 when it had a 4"lift and boomerang shackles on it) to 100" and would still like to be out around 106" ....as far as the gas tank goes ....I'm building 2 ...12 gallon aluminum tanks that will be placed up in the unused portion of the wheel wells in front of my back tires after the stretch ....this well help with weight balance also...
The first thing that popped in my head was propane
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Hey Geoff ...I'm hearin u about the waterfalls .....I've stretched my jeep from 93"stock (I think it was more like 91 when it had a 4"lift and boomerang shackles on it) to 100" and would still like to be out around 106" or more if I can do it without a comp cut....yuck! ....as far as the gas tank goes ....I'm building 2 ...12 gallon aluminum tanks that will be placed up in the unused portion of the wheel wells in front of my back tires after the stretch ....this well help with weight balance also...
Yeah I am intrigued by a stretch but didn't want a gas tank in the back as there isn't any room. The Genright 5" stretch requires there tank, but keeps it where it is. Is a comp cut where the body is cut straight out the back so its open as opposed to surrounding the tire? Here Is a pic one of my favorite TJs..stretched!
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I'm thinking if I can add 5 or 6 inches it would be just about right.
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Yeah Bill ...u described a comp cut ..not a fan....I like the look of my jeep...so I'm going with aluminum quarter blanks ..do the stretch and then cut the wheel opening and install the flares...I also don't want to loose any of what little space I have....so that's why I'm doin the 2 tanks in the wheel wells...no skids either ....cause the sliders will protect them....
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I'm thinking if I can add 5 or 6 inches it would be just about right.
Yeah Bob 6"of stretch would put u right at the century mark and make jeep so much more stable and capable in every way...look bad AZZ too
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Can do 6" without losing the gas tank?
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5 in the rear and 1 in the front. Genright tank.
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I think that's the best solution for me as well! Some day if you don't go bigger its not worth it, but I think anything helps
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Problem is I really want the savvy arms but they don't come in a longer setup. I am having to think which I really want most and right now it is the savvy arms and under armor. I'll have to live with the body lift and figure out how to get into my jeep. I am about at the limit right now another inch is not going to help.

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