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Old 06-11-2013, 09:11 AM   #181
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Its another 15/20 miles down the road from Camp rock rd off Means dry lake rd...

Keep in mind that we may not have these trails to much longer...
So a couple more years maybe to late.
The road is called Boone road and it will eventually take you to Means Dry Lake.

From the Yucca Valley side Boone is the first entrance to the OHV, about 12 miles further along Old Woman Springs Road is the Bessemer Mine Road which is roughly half way between Boone and Camp Rock Road.

If you are towing, Boone is about 20-22 minutes from the 62 and 247 intersection (247 is Old Woman Springs Road) and the last road you pass before you have to turn right onto Boone is Last Mile Road.

If you haven't passed the sign for Wheeler's Ship It Shop, you haven't gone far enough.

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Old 06-11-2013, 09:42 AM   #182
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Interesting. I thought about what you said and yes IIRC my wheelbase with a 4" lift is actually shorter. So I would gain hardly anything over stock.

I've talked to a few guys and like you they say if you are going to stretch, do it once. I know it's really expensive to do it, so it sounds like it's not even worth it for a couple inches. I wheel with LJ's all the time and there isn't an obstacle that I haven't been able to climb that they have.

Thanks for the input on that. You make it a lot easier for me to see things from a logical perspective.
Here is a link to a cool thread that Blaine sent me awhile back on a guy stretching his TJ into an LJ while retaining the departure of a TJ. Its like a stretched LJ (see PS Daddy Longlegs) As radical as it seems, he is able to completely leave his rear end geometry & gas tank in tact (aside from a longer DS)

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/addi...tj-225049.html

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I saw that one. It's a lot of work. Read Expensive.
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Old 06-11-2013, 02:22 PM   #184
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I saw that one. It's a lot of work. Read Expensive.
No stretch tank, that saves 800 plus installation.
If you already have spring perches done, shocks outboarded, and a gas tank skid, none of that gets touched.

You're doing a new rear driveshaft either way so that's a wash.
The plumbing and wiring is much easier than moving a tank behind the seats and don't forget the tank behind the seat will need an enclosure and a filler next which is several hundred dollars not to mention the loss of cargo space.

Both stretches need new corner armor so that's a wash. Both need new rock rails so that's almost a wash.

It's far easier to cut and extend the frame with two straight pieces than it is to re-engineer and fabricate new frame sub sections, remount a bumper, and redo the wheel arches in the frame to kinda get some travel back.

The cage extensions are cake and the body work consists of welding in a panel and finishing the inside with bedliner and the only clean work that will be seen is the 1" long sections at the top of the tub at each end of the patch.
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I would need the perches and shocks done as well as a new tank skid but that would have to be done even without a stretch. I'd need a new top and bows. I like the extra room for storage. And I would still need a suspension kit of some sort. And new driveshafts are a given. Also a custom tummy tuck would be in order. Still sounds like a lot of work. it would be sweet but still seems out of my price range.
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I would need the perches and shocks done as well as a new tank skid but that would have to be done even without a stretch. I'd need a new top and bows. I like the extra room for storage. And I would still need a suspension kit of some sort. And new driveshafts are a given. Also a custom tummy tuck would be in order. Still sounds like a lot of work. it would be sweet but still seems out of my price range.
It does look like a lot of work, but you can see the benefit to this for the person that has the equipment and fab skills because it doesn't require a ton of money in parts. The guy in the thread listed it at one point and it wasn't much. It sure would be hard to basically cut your jeep in half
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I would need the perches and shocks done as well as a new tank skid but that would have to be done even without a stretch. I'd need a new top and bows. I like the extra room for storage. And I would still need a suspension kit of some sort. And new driveshafts are a given. Also a custom tummy tuck would be in order. Still sounds like a lot of work. it would be sweet but still seems out of my price range.
Or if you want a stretch Bob, buy a JK unlimited. And two of your best friends can still ride in the back seat!
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Or if you want a stretch Bob, buy a JK unlimited. And two of your best friends can still ride in the back seat!
I told my wife, if something ever happens to my jeep...this is my plan.
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Or if you want a stretch Bob, buy a JK unlimited. And two of your best friends can still ride in the back seat!
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And here you thought I was kidding about how fast the internet will try to spend your money for you.
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No, 1 is the end of Sunbonnet and 5 is 1/3 of the way into Outer Limits.

This is the early part of Sledge and this pic was taken while the vehicle was in motion and I'll tell you right now that riding with Sergey is not for the faint of heart.


If you are afeared of leaning your rig over, you won't be after a few trips out there.
Awesome pics, Just goes to show how stable these things are even with a 4" lift.

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Here is a link to a cool thread that Blaine sent me awhile back on a guy stretching his TJ into an LJ while retaining the departure of a TJ. Its like a stretched LJ (see PS Daddy Longlegs) As radical as it seems, he is able to completely leave his rear end geometry & gas tank in tact (aside from a longer DS)

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/addi...tj-225049.html
That's pretty cool, but I would never do that to a rig I liked .

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