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Old 09-17-2012, 10:32 AM   #31
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Mc Donalds is located at: 2137 East Harbor Boulevard, Ventura, just off Seaward.

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Mc Donalds is located at: 2137 East Harbor Boulevard, Ventura, just off Seaward.
I was joking.. See you there!

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So here is whatís going on for this run:

Mechanically sound short wheel base vehicles with a minimum of 33in tires and tow points front and rear, air pump to inflate tires at end of trail, fire extinguisher, tow strap and recommended one locker and a CB. All rigs must meet Cal 4 Wheel safety standards. Youíre also going to need a trail lunch and enough fuel for about 10-15 miles of trail and 20-30 miles of highway for Saturday.

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Schedule and rendezvous points:

1) 730am Friday, meeting some people at McDonalds off of Seaward in Ventura. Grab some breakfast and leave by 8am. McDonalds is located at: 2137 East Harbor Boulevard, Ventura, just off Seaward.

2) 9am Friday, gas stop in Mohave at the Shell station at 16048 Sierra Highway (Hwy14), Mojave, CA leaving at 930am.

1030am Friday, quick gas stop at the Pearsonville Shell to top off before heading up the hill, its located at 102 Pearson Road Inyokern, CA

3) 11am to 12pm Friday, Troy Meadows Camp ground. To get to Kennedy Meadows, go north on Hwy 395 to 3 miles north of Pearsonville. At the Kennedy Meadows sign, turn left and head west up Nine Mile Canyon road for about 33 miles. I think Nine Mile turns into Sherman pass road as shown on the US forest map. Once you turn off 395 there is only one way to go and you will eventually hit Troy Meadows; you canít miss it.

4) 8am or TBA Saturday, Troy Meadows Camp, meeting for Sherman Pass trail run.

Here is the US forest service web site description with a trail map. http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sequoia/recreation/ohv-osv/cm_ohv_info_and_maps.html

Let me know what rendezvous point works best for you. All time are estimated and it might be best if youíre going to meet me in Mojave to PM your cell phone number to me and I will return mine to you. Also let me know your first name so I can update the list.

Troy Meadows is a first come first serve camp ground. I think there is something like 18 spaces. My motorcycle friends will be coming up the night before and will probably take 4 of those. I donít anticipate it being close to being full but we can have two vehicles per space if people want to share. There is also an overflow camp across the street if the campground is full. Also bring firewood; campfires are allowed only in the campgrounds not in the overflow. I am unsure if a fire permit is required for the campground but I doubt it.

If you have any questions let me know..
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:05 PM   #34
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What a crock - I did Lockwood & Miller with 31"s and open diffs after I was told that I could not run with Ci4x4 on the same trail. (Btw I did not require any assistance.

Sorry that you started that and now need to start throwing out the CI4x4 regulations..

BTW this is Wrangler Forum .... not CI4x4 and I know what my jeep can to, you do not! Take your run to CI4x4
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:15 AM   #35
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Wow! Iwanna, where did that come from? I'm getting the feeling that you had a bad experience with CI4x4. Please don't take it out on me.

I am a member of CI4x4 but I'm far from being one of the "core" group over there. I have made some friends in that group that share the same interest in wheeling, that's all. I'm not sure what exception you have with my general SAFTEY requirements but I have compiled those from a few different sources and they seem reasonable to me. They are not CI4x4 regs; their list is a lot longer. I should of clarified that that they are recommendations, you can bring anything you want; it won't bother me. I see your Jeep has 31s. My first TJ had 31s and my new JK only has 33s; if you think it will make it then let's do it.

Consider this story: I was on Miller with a group and a young guy broke down in his TJ about 2 miles from the top. We deducted that it had something to do with the coil and since we didn't have a replacement, we had to tow it to the top. It took three Jeeps strapped together to get him over that one large obstacle towards the top. It was a really long day. Once we got to the top I took a look at it and found that it was his wiring harness. His wiring was a mess and in disrepair; I could not find the trouble. So, I simply jumped the coil directly from the battery and the thing stared right up. That little 3 hour tow job could of been avoided if the owner of that Jeep had kept his jeep in better repair.

I tell you that story because although I was more than willing to help get the guy out; I was a little pissed that I had to. I have to say something up front on a run like this because I'm going to feel responsible if something happens on the trail. I certainly don't want anything bad to happen since I suggested the run. I hope you can understand that?

So Iwanna, are you still in? It should be epic, I hate to see you miss out.
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What a crock - I did Lockwood & Miller with 31"s and open diffs after I was told that I could not run with Ci4x4 on the same trail. (Btw I did not require any assistance.

Sorry that you started that and now need to start throwing out the CI4x4 regulations..

BTW this is Wrangler Forum .... not CI4x4 and I know what my jeep can to, you do not! Take your run to CI4x4
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:05 PM   #37
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So here is whatís going on for this run:

Mechanically sound short wheel base vehicles with a minimum of 33in tires and tow points front and rear, air pump to inflate tires at end of trail, fire extinguisher, tow strap and recommended one locker and a CB. All rigs must meet Cal 4 Wheel safety standards. [/SIZE]
Randog. My apology for being so brash, The last statement just put me on edge. I have learned from some of the best wheelers I know and still have alot to learn but, can't do it without all of you.

I understand that you do not want to be stuck on the trail with those that are broken down due to shoddy maintenance. But the "All rigs must meet Cal 4 Wheel safety standards." will not fix that.

I look forward to meeting you.
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Randog. My apology for being so brash, The last statement just put me on edge. I have learned from some of the best wheelers I know and still have alot to learn but, can't do it without all of you.

I understand that you do not want to be stuck on the trail with those that are broken down due to shoddy maintenance. But the "All rigs must meet Cal 4 Wheel safety standards." will not fix that.

I look forward to meeting you.
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I know wont, but I gotta at least try and make it safe.
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I am in. 31's, open/open, 3.5" lift and jj's everywhere. I carry my own tow strap, pump and jack... ;-)
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Excellent, I really donít anticipate Sherman Pass as being very difficult but I have seen photos of Jeeps trying to get over trees that have fallen across the trail. I expect that they have all been cleared out by now but just incase one of the other drivers is bringing a chain saw. I was on a trail just out side of Yosemite in the early spring once and we came on some downed trees, we had to turn back.
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Wheelin' is dealin' right? :-)
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Hey guys I need to pull out for health reasons next weekend. Hope y'all have a great time.
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Hey guys I need to pull out for health reasons next weekend. Hope y'all have a great time.
Hope everything is all right, see ya next time...
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Randog, I am out for this one. Have to work with my contractor on our remodel, so Friday is out.
I look forward to your photos. Be safe
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Thread Revival!!

I'm looking at going to Sequoia tomorrow and camping at Monache and doing the Sherman Pass 4x4 trail. I wanted to get some advice from those of you that did this run....if you are still active on the Forum that is.

I plan on wheeling alone. My wife will be with, but no other jeeps. I was wondering how risky that is on Sherman?? It's rated as difficult, but doesn't sound too bad. I'm running a 2013 JKU Sahara (no lockers, but BLD) with a 3.5" lift and 35's. It's pretty capable, but no lockers and 4dr wheel base.

How long does Sherman take? How far back to Monache on that trail? I'm heading up early Sat, and wondering if I will have time to do Sherman, then go to Monache to camp for the night, or if I should save Sherman for Sun.

Also....do you need bear proof food storage for camping there?
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I did Sherman Pass a while back before I had lockers. I was on 34"s and a 3.5 lift. I followed a TJ on 32"s and we both had no problem. I don't think it's really a difficult trail at all, just the fact that it's a long climb. Wheeling alone is never really a good idea, but if it's your only choice then oh well. But I can't imagine you'll break anything as long as you wheel smart.

Monache Meadows is really a scenic place! As for bears.... you'd probably have to ask a Ranger about that. I didn't see any though, and our food/trash was undisturbed in the mornings.

I'm thinking of going within a month or so. Let us know how the trail is when you get back.
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Our club The Gear Grinders did the trail maintance on sherman pass a few weeks ago and from corral meadows up its got a few rocky spots but that did not stop anybody including a few that were open/open and 31's. Now if you went to the west entrance off of the paved sherman pass road, 33e48, that is a tough trail and you should have lockers. Rains have worked their magic on this trail.

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Our club The Gear Grinders did the trail maintance on sherman pass a few weeks ago and from corral meadows up its got a few rocky spots but that did not stop anybody including a few that were open/open and 31's. Now if you went to the west entrance off of the paved sherman pass road, 33e48, that is a tough trail and you should have lockers. Rains have worked their magic on this trail.

Have fun.
So, are you saying I should just go in from the east to the peak and back out the same way? I was planning on doing the loop from the west.

How long would the run take?

Are there any other more moderate runs in this area? Mostly looking for good scenery for the wife and some wheeling to fill my appetite. Dead ends to good hiking trails are acceptable. I just want to go where the Subaru can't, Lol!
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So, are you saying I should just go in from the east to the peak and back out the same way? I was planning on doing the loop from the west.

How long would the run take?
OK with no lockers and the fact your going to be alone please don't go up or down the west side road. I would hate for something to happen and there you are all alone.

When you get off the peak and hang a left you will go past and old mine cabin that I can't remember the name of and you can go down to the paved road from there. It's a steep road in places so be mindfull.

I don't recall how long it took us but if I had to guess, from monache meadows down to the sherman pass road, down to the bonita meadows road, over to the sherman pass 4x4 road, up to the top and back again, 6 hours or more would be my guess.
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Thanks Jeff. I appreciate your info! I did an edit to my post the same time you replied asking about other trails in the area.

I'm planning on heading in from Kernville and up to Sherman Pass Rd. Do the Sherman 4x4 east side and head to Monache meadow to camp for the night. Hoping that will be about 6-7hrs, or I'll be setting up camp in the dark.
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No problem Jesse, stop at the Kernville ranger station and get some maps so you can better see what there is to offer. There are a lot of dirt roads that go all over the mountain for you to explore.

Have a great time.
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Hey Jesse, keep an eye on the conditions up there. There is a fire in the Lake Isabella/Woffard Heights area right now. Smokey as all get out down here.
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We decided not to go this weekend. I was all packed and Jeep loaded.....Sat morning we got up and decided it would be more enjoyable if we waited for a weekend we can head up early Fri. Thinking of going 8/1 now of anyone is interested??

Saw the fire news today too. Guess it worked out we waited. Hope they get it under control soon though!
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When you get closer to the date, post up, and i'll bet you get a slew of folks wanting to run with you!
I have a favorite place i have been going to for years, on the west side, called "Cherry Hill Road", and out to Cannell Meadows/Big Meadows, with my Horses and ride. The turn off is about 6 miles above the river, and there is a developed campground just before the end called "Horse Meadows". As of last report from there, NO FIRES of ANY KIND allowed. Propane stoves, and only in the camp ground and only with a permit.
Salmon Creek runs right through the campground, and last year, still had lots of fish!
Going to the end of the feeder road, you will come to Big Meadow sign, it is at 8500 ft, and you cannot use the two campsites unless you have a horse, as they are maintained by and for horses onlt, and for mule and pack teams. But going to the left, and just past the little camp, is a wonderful spot right on the stream, and with a green meadow, and huge trees. From there you could do the trail to Sirriota Peak, and connect with the lookout on top of the mountains at 12,500 ft!!
Going down from the lookout, you can hook up Sherman pass, and go over to Blackrock/Monache, or back down to Cherry Hill Road on pavement.
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Some pics from the area.....









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lots of hiking trails, and lots of scenic shots along the road. disbursed camping is allowed along all the logging trails, but the water is NOT drinkable in the creeks. Last year, I took my lil popup camper, and my Chreokee to explore up there, and want to take my Wrangler this year, so I can do some more adventurous stuff!

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Nice Steve, thanks!

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