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Old 01-11-2013, 12:40 PM   #1
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Lytle Creek, Stokton Flats Yellow Post Sites

Ive never been up Lytle Creek and I am thinking of going out there next weekend to camp at the yellow post sites. Just spoke with the ranger they are open and there is some snow up there.

how is the wheeling up there and 4x4 roads to the camp sites? If anyone wants to join in feel free.

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Old 01-11-2013, 12:44 PM   #2
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Ive never been up Lytle Creek and I am thinking of going out there next weekend to camp at the yellow post sites. Just spoke with the ranger they are open and there is some snow up there.

how is the wheeling up there and 4x4 roads to the camp sites? If anyone wants to join in feel free.

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Wheeling is mild to moderate. Nothing too technical, but nice and scenic. When are you thinking of going?

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Old 01-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #3
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:11 PM   #4
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here is a map to the yellow post sites up there

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5393385.pdf

whats the cold water canyon 4wd? anyone know how it is?
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here is a map to the yellow post sites up there

http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_...rdb5393385.pdf

whats the cold water canyon 4wd? anyone know how it is?
Not sure the name of all the canyons, but I know of one trail on the road side of the creek that has been washed out. Took special extraction to recover a stuck Jeep a couple of months back. Trail falling into the hillside on itself and pretty much not passable. Local 4x4 tow companies passed on the job.

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Quick edit, should have clicked on the link. Very fun trail, smart tire placement will get you through without the need for lockers. A fun little water crossing also. Have camped up there during summer, great views and very private. Think only one rig came by after like 5 pm.
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Do you have any wheeling plans for Saturday? I have dinner plans tonight so cannot get out there today.

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Old 01-11-2013, 03:30 PM   #7
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Next weekend I want to go, not today and tomorow
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Old 01-11-2013, 04:49 PM   #8
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Gotcha, I may be up for that.


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Went up there over the summer, and found 3N06 completely blocked piles of dirt and rocks and seemingly closed off at the Shooting Range. I then went around by going up 3N31, expecting to cross over on 3N33, but 3N33 was closed too... Might be worth verifying each road you plan on taking with the Ranger station. I probably could have made it around any of the "closures" but I was alone, and had no idea what I was getting myself into.

May come join you for a bit though, looks like a fun time to check some other stuff out. I love the scenic runs.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:14 PM   #10
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That's weird the ranger didn't say Anthing about roads being closed and I said I wanted to get back to Stockton flats. I'll check before I go
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Count Sandi and I in. We just picked up some new 0* bags to try out. Also a new tent that I got online. Hope it arrives before then. If not we still have the other tent to work with.

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Awesome what bags you get. What time r u gonna go ill be leaving here around 1230 maybe we can meet at the ranger station on Friday?
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We picked Golden Bear bags, the Yukon model. We can meet at the ranger station, no prob. Pretty much any time is good for us.


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We picked Golden Bear bags, the Yukon model. We can meet at the ranger station, no prob. Pretty much any time is good for us.

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Sounds good we can scope out a good yellow post site. Are u bringing your dog I think we will be bringing Stacey's new puppy
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Depends on the space if we bring the dog.


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Hey Brad, think the better half and I will be OK with only an air matress and the bags or should we get cots to get higher off the ground? I have never done the snow camping thing.

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You should be fine with an air mattress and I don't know how much snow is up there. We are using rei mattresses and they are only a few inches thick . You just need to get off the ground some. Does your new tent come with a footprint? That will help keep the moisture out from the ground. If not bring a tarp for the bottom.
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By the way, the news shows mid twenties for mountain forecast and lytle creek weather.com shows low thirties at night so it won't be so cold.
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By the way, the news shows mid twenties for mountain forecast and lytle creek weather.com shows low thirties at night so it won't be so cold.
Yeah, I was checking the weather forecast and saw that. My biggest concern is Sandi getting cold. I don't want to scare her off from adventures like this.

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It's not so bad in the cold, I like it better. Get a big fire going and ill make some spicy beef stew! As long as the bags you got are good you'll be fine
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I think the bags will be fine. I have never heard of the brand, but after some Internet research, they have quite a few products. I have camped in the desert below freezing and just bundled up.

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I also find it better not to sleep in thermals. I've slept in my hammock and when backpacking temps below 20 in my 20 degree down bag I've been warm. You want your body heat to warm the bag and it seems thermals hinder that. I just sleep in boxers. Might wear socks or stuff the bottom of the bag cause some bags don't have enough fill at the end.
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I went up here today to have a look around and talked to a ranger and he said nothing was closed except for the dirt road I was attempting to take which was a dead end anyway. I was on Swarthout Canyon Road and was attempting to get over to 3N31 but I did not get too far as my son and I stopped and watched trains going up and down but I thought I would post up what I learned today. I will be going up there again for some more sight seeing, maybe I might even see you up there next weekend.
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Thanks for the update how was the snow up there?
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Thanks for the update how was the snow up there?
Where I made it there was none to be seen, only way up in the mountains.
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Hey Guys,

Don't know if any of you actually did this trip, but over the weekend I went up exploring in this area. I was pleasantly surprised to find the Coldwater Canyon route very much open, and with VERY cool access to some great campsites. I went as high as I could on this trail, and was only stopped by the loose rocks covered in snow (just couldn't get anymore traction to continue to go up. If I had been *with* someone, I might have pushed a little harder to find a different route, but none the less it was a good run.

The best campsite I found was at the top of this marked trail. It was really the only section that actually required 4wd, and maybe even 4-lo. At the top though, it was AWESOME. I am definitely going to head back there.

Anyway, wanted to update you all. See you at Calico!

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Hey Guys,

Don't know if any of you actually did this trip, but over the weekend I went up exploring in this area. I was pleasantly surprised to find the Coldwater Canyon route very much open, and with VERY cool access to some great campsites. I went as high as I could on this trail, and was only stopped by the loose rocks covered in snow (just couldn't get anymore traction to continue to go up. If I had been *with* someone, I might have pushed a little harder to find a different route, but none the less it was a good run.

The best campsite I found was at the top of this marked trail. It was really the only section that actually required 4wd, and maybe even 4-lo. At the top though, it was AWESOME. I am definitely going to head back there.

Anyway, wanted to update you all. See you at Calico!

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Thanks for the update. I would like to go again for some more exploring.
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Question! Been interested in camping out at lytle creek, are reservations for camping required? Or any sort permits or passes?
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Question! Been interested in camping out at lytle creek, are reservations for camping required? Or any sort permits or passes?
I think you may need an adventure pass but not familiar at all with camping up in this area. There is a ranger station right in Lytle Creek area where you can go and ask.
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Hey Guys,

Don't know if any of you actually did this trip, but over the weekend I went up exploring in this area. I was pleasantly surprised to find the Coldwater Canyon route very much open, and with VERY cool access to some great campsites. I went as high as I could on this trail, and was only stopped by the loose rocks covered in snow (just couldn't get anymore traction to continue to go up. If I had been *with* someone, I might have pushed a little harder to find a different route, but none the less it was a good run.

The best campsite I found was at the top of this marked trail. It was really the only section that actually required 4wd, and maybe even 4-lo. At the top though, it was AWESOME. I am definitely going to head back there.

Anyway, wanted to update you all. See you at Calico!

Cheers

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turd and i never made it past the ranger station when we went. the ranger said no campfires that night because it was windy. we ended up going to silverwood lake and camping. the next day we ran 2nx17, afterwards turd went home and i went to holcomb valley and camped in the snow with the g/f, 9 degrees next morning . i did a bunch of wheeling in the snow, and had to help a stuck H3 in the snow get unstuck on the fire road. numbnuts did not have it in 4wd and he thought he did. he got stuck trying to do a 3 point turn and got stuck in the snow, was perpendicular to the fire road. after i got him unstuck he took out his owners manual to figure out how to put it in 4wd lol!

if you go sometime let us know i still want to check it out up there.

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