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Old 11-22-2010, 03:15 PM   #61
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Yup, that's the stuff. Goes down real smooth as a shot, which is the only way I've ever had it.
yeah its real smooth, someone was telling me its good with a wild turkey 101 topper too.

i can't wait this is gonna be fun. i got my lift and cb in, so im ready to roll!

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X2 on what Bash said . . . be sure to check with the Rangers to see if it's open and to see about the conditions. Dry, Miller is pretty easy . . . a stock Jeep should make it thru without much trouble at all . . . might need a bit of spotting or a tug in a spot or two, but that's about it. Add mud or snow and it'll be a whole different experience . . . if it's not dry up there, be sure to be well prepared and equiped. There are some other trails over there that stay open in the winter like 118 and 119 . . . while extremely easy when dry . . . they can be a lot of fun and pose some nice challenges if there is snow up there. I ran them in the snow last year and it was a blast . . . we were slipping and sliding all over . . . almost ended up on my passenger side at one point . . . still have the stain on my seat!

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i can't wait this is gonna be fun. i got my lift and cb in, so im ready to roll!
Just keep your fingers crossed that the weather will cooperate in terms of keeping the trail open and not too muddy. It'll definitely be cold at night though.

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Dry, Miller is pretty easy . . . a stock Jeep should make it thru without much trouble at all . . . might need a bit of spotting or a tug in a spot or two, but that's about it. Add mud or snow and it'll be a whole different experience . . . if it's not dry up there, be sure to be well prepared and equiped. There are some other trails over there that stay open in the winter like 118 and 119 . . . while extremely easy when dry . . . they can be a lot of fun and pose some nice challenges if there is snow up there. I ran them in the snow last year and it was a blast . . . we were slipping and sliding all over . . . almost ended up on my passenger side at one point . . . still have the stain on my seat!
Please tell me more about these "118" and "119" trails (trailhead, links to more info, etc.). I'd like to look into them as backup plans. If there's mud on Miller Jeep Trail, I might want to do another trail. With the days as short as they are, if we run into any trouble, we could get caught still on the trail after dark, and I'd like to avoid that for this run.
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Just keep your fingers crossed that the weather will cooperate in terms of keeping the trail open and not too muddy. It'll definitely be cold at night though.



Please tell me more about these "118" and "119" trails (trailhead, links to more info, etc.). I'd like to look into them as back up plans. If there's mud on Miller Jeep Trail, I might want to do another trail. With the days as short as they are, if we run into any trouble, we could get caught still on the trail after dark, and I'd like to avoid that for this run.
118 goes between the Ranger Station and the staging area for Lockwood (where most people start Miller) . . . you can get to it by passing the ranger station . . . just stay on that road a little bit and you'll find a brand new big parking lot . . . the trail starts there. Used to have a different enterance but they changed it a while back. 119 is connected with 118 and will take you up to the top of the mountain . . . I can't remember if you can take it all the way to the top in a Jeep . . . I think I've only gone all the way up once on the dirtbike.
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Mix the honey with 101 proof wild turkey ... It takes the sweetness out and adds a kick!
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:23 PM   #66
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Mix the honey with 101 proof wild turkey ... It takes the sweetness out and adds a kick!
yeah thats what im talking about
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:27 PM   #67
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As it looks right now, its amaybe, wife reminded me we may have something else on the calendar.
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Any news on the trail if it's still open?
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Any news on the trail if it's still open?
I'm gonna call the ranger Monday or Tuesday and find out if the trail is open, and what condition it's in. And as of right now, there's rain in the forecast for Saturday.
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lets hope for none of the wet stuff....
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I just spoke to the ranger, and Miller Jeep Trail is still open and is pretty dry. Yesterday there was rain in the forecast for Saturday and Sunday, but right now it's saying rain only for Sunday.

At this point, this trip is still on as originally planned, but stay tuned because depending on the weather, the plans may change.
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I just spoke to the ranger, and Miller Jeep Trail is still open and is pretty dry. Yesterday there was rain in the forecast for Saturday and Sunday, but right now it's saying rain only for Sunday.

At this point, this trip is still on as originally planned, but stay tuned because depending on the weather, the plans may change.
well thats good news so far.

im trying to put together food for the night/morning? whats up there to cook on...bbq? grill? open fire?

is anyone bringing a stove?
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whats up there to cook on...bbq? grill? open fire?

is anyone bringing a stove?
The campsites at Hungry Valley have tables, fire pits and smelly toilets.

I wasn't planning on bringing any cooking gear. Sammiches for me. No cooking or cleaning.
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I just spoke to the ranger, and Miller Jeep Trail is still open and is pretty dry. Yesterday there was rain in the forecast for Saturday and Sunday, but right now it's saying rain only for Sunday.

At this point, this trip is still on as originally planned, but stay tuned because depending on the weather, the plans may change.

Thanks for the update. Did the ranger happen to say if they were going to shut down the trail, what kind of notice they give????
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I got those portable stoves with two burners im taking
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I've just got backpacking stuff so a one burner stove to boil water and a freeze dried dinner and desert. At least it will be hot (to help counter the cold)
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Howdy from Texas!

I've been following this thread since mid October and it sounds like you guys are in for a great time! One thing I want to say is I find it funny-all this talk about the weather: snow, rain, mud, wet stuff, etc.... Don't get me wrong, im not bashing "y'all" at all but I know here in Texas with our predictably unpredictable weather that most of the people would have said something like "bad weather or not, I'm still going" lol.

I wish I was in Cali and could join you guys...I was born in LA and my brother in San Diego. Moved to Texas early childhood but still have family spread out everywhere from Napa/Sonoma, Fountain Valley, down to San Diego. We visit when we can but I have yet to bring my Jeep or sport bike out for the mountains. Geographically you guys have it made!!!

Enough rambling for now, sorry to "hijack" your thread. Hope you all have a wonderful and SAFE time and look forward to seeing pictures posted upon your return.
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I have a small gas grill that uses the green propane...i think im just gonna cook some burgers. anyone can use it too.
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Did the ranger happen to say if they were going to shut down the trail, what kind of notice they give????
No mentioning of the sort.

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One thing I want to say is I find it funny-all this talk about the weather: snow, rain, mud, wet stuff, etc.... Don't get me wrong, im not bashing "y'all" at all but I know here in Texas with our predictably unpredictable weather that most of the people would have said something like "bad weather or not, I'm still going" lol.
Yah, we get kinda spoiled with the weather out here sometimes. I guess if you live in an area where the weather doesn't cut you much slack, you're forced to deal with it. Thing is with this trail, it's really fun when dry, but if muddy, some sections would be very difficult to pass, and I don't want to be stuck on the trail all day and night. The days are short and the nights are getting pretty cold.
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from weather.gov

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick...2=-118.944&e=0

Friday Night: A 20 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 39.

Saturday: A 20 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 56.

Saturday Night: A slight chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 37.

Sunday: A slight chance of rain showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 52.
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We'll keep monitoring the weather, but let me know what y'all think about the following backup plans if it rains this weekend.

Plan B: Wheel Saturday at Hungry Valley instead of Miller Jeep Trail, and still camp at Hungry Valley.

Plan C: Make it a day run only at Hungry Valley, followed by pizza and beer somewhere afterwards.

Other suggestions???
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I'm staying optimistic....but just to be on the safer side, I'm getting my first real mod this week...3 inch Teraflex lift w/ shocks! Whaaahooo!

Bean...we will have a propane BBQ/stove.
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Based on the forecast, the original plan works for me. I don't mind rain when camping or on the trail. But if others are concerned I will be happy to do whatever.
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it doesn't sound like alot of rain, i would still like to camp...don't mind the rain. plan A works for me, if the rain makes it too difficult for the trail, then plan b
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We'd like to camp too...if possible, stay with the original plan.
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Plan A! lets get dirty and enjoy the experience of mother nature
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Still Plan A then. The weather forecast is looking more favorable right now.

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Right on! Congrats!
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Okay, Plan A is on!

I called the Mt. Pinos ranger again today, and he said that Miller Jeep Trail is still open, and doesn't close until the after the first major snow storm. There's still a chance of rain in the forecast, but hopefully it won't be enough to make the trail too muddy. I mean mud is fun on easy trails, but on this trail, it would really slow us down.

I also called Hungry Valley, and got their recorded message which didn't mention any kind of closure or anything out of the ordinary, so I assume everything is good on that end too.

As mentioned in the initial post, please bring a bundle of firewood if you can. I have one, but one won't last very long and it's going to be 40 degrees tomorrow night.

I think my liver has recovered from last weekend's heavy partying on the Mojave Road, so I'm ready to party again. I'll bring 8-10 or so bottles of MGD, two bottles of American Honey, disposable shot glasses, and a table to line them up on.

Here's the list, as I understand it.

Going:
1. yomondo
2. JRickW
3. BeantownR6
4. Rebuilt
5. Sandiegojeepin (meeting at staging area)

Maybe:
1. wranglerYJnewb
2. Jerry Bransford
3. Nthe8s
4. 530ktm
5. MBPomerantz
6. McPuck86

I think that's it. With the exception of Sandiegojeeping, I'll see y'all at the Flying J for breakfast at 8:00am.
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Okay, Plan A is on!

I called the Mt. Pinos ranger again today, and he said that Miller Jeep Trail is still open, and doesn't close until the after the first major snow storm. There's still a chance of rain in the forecast, but hopefully it won't be enough to make the trail too muddy. I mean mud is fun on easy trails, but on this trail, it would really slow us down.

I also called Hungry Valley, and got their recorded message which didn't mention any kind of closure or anything out of the ordinary, so I assume everything is good on that end too.

As mentioned in the initial post, please bring a bundle of firewood if you can. I have one, but one won't last very long and it's going to be 40 degrees tomorrow night.

I think my liver has recovered from last weekend's heavy partying on the Mojave Road, so I'm ready to party again. I'll bring 8-10 or so bottles of MGD, two bottles of American Honey, disposable shot glasses, and a table to line them up on.

Here's the list, as I understand it.

Going:
1. yomondo
2. JRickW
3. BeantownR6
4. Rebuilt
5. Sandiegojeepin (meeting at staging area)

Maybe:
1. wranglerYJnewb
2. Jerry Bransford
3. Nthe8s
4. 530ktm
5. MBPomerantz
6. McPuck86

I think that's it. With the exception of Sandiegojeeping, I'll see y'all at the Flying J for breakfast at 8:00am.
Have a good safe trip. I have too much to catch up on after being gone last week. Looking forward to the pictures that you do such a good job at.

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