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Old 10-29-2011, 07:37 PM   #1
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Morton Peak

I've had my JKU Sport for about 3 weeks now and had been DYING to go off road. I took it up Morton's Peak which is near the city of Mentone. One of my Poker buddies told me about it, real easy to find.

I ended up going up it about 3 miles before my wife and 3 year old had enough. We stopped for a snack, and headed back down. I'll have to go again when I can drive a little further. Pretty easy drive.

I guess the 3 year old won't be going on many off road trips for a while. We were off the trail and almost to the freeway when he puked all over the back seat! No more new car smell for me...

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Congrats on the new JKU. We are setting up a big run in Calico in March if you are interested. We usually get a good mixture of beginners to seasoned vets involved with at least two different runs depending on the difficulty of trail. Here is a link for the event, everyone is welcome. The 6th, Semi-Annual WF So Cal Meet and Greet; A Turdhurlder Production

Also, I am in Moreno Valley and always looking for new wheeling buddies, so if you want to do a local run let me know and I will try to make it along. Oh yeah, welcome to the forum, haha.

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Old 10-30-2011, 07:26 PM   #3
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Thanks for the welcome, I'm definitely up for some local runs. Nice to see other Jeepers are so close!

That Calico run looks pretty cool, don't know if I can disappear for 3 days though. I'll work on it. I'm interested more in runs that are for a few hours on one day.
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The last few years the gate to morton peak has been locked, I used to hunt at the fire look out at the top back in the 70's and 80's and I remember you could see the sun reflecting off of the ocean late in the afternoon when the weather was clear.

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The last few years the gate to morton peak has been locked, I used to hunt at the fire look out at the top back in the 70's and 80's and I remember you could see the sun reflecting off of the ocean late in the afternoon when the weather was clear.

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Any idea how many miles to the top? I only got about 3 miles up before my wife chickened out...

What were you hunting up there? I saw a few rabbits.
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Any idea how many miles to the top? I only got about 3 miles up before my wife chickened out...

What were you hunting up there? I saw a few rabbits.
At the time I was hunting deer. The fire look out is about 2 miles up past the gate on the left on your way up. If the gate is locked and you are in for a 4 to 5 mile drive, you can continue up the road staying to the right at the next intersection and end up in Angelus Oaks and hi-way 38.

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At the time I was hunting deer. The fire look out is about 2 miles up past the gate on the left on your way up. If the gate is locked and you are in for a 4 to 5 mile drive, you can continue up the road staying to the right at the next intersection and end up in Angelus Oaks and hi-way 38.

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Yeah, I think that gate was locked. At somewhat of a clearing about 2 miles up? My friend that told me about this trail said stay to the right (his only advice).

The 2nd pic is about a mile further up to the right. Looked like it just spiraled up. You think that one leads to highway 38?
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Yes, that second pic looks like a mile or so past the big intersection, if you stay on that road you will go thru Thomas hunting grounds and then a couple of miles further you will come out at Angelus Oaks and hiway 38. All by staying on the main road as any others won't be as well defined. You could then either hang a left at 38 and go to Big Bear or hang a right and in about 7 or eight miles end up where you left the hiway on your way to Morton Peak.

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Awesome! Thanks for the info!

Now I feel compelled to finish the trail all the way back to the highway.
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Awesome! Thanks for the info!

Now I feel compelled to finish the trail all the way back to the highway.
Yeah, You should take it the rest of the way, it gets nicer as you go in. Thomas hunting ground is a good place to stop for lunch and I believe its open to camping. I live in Redlands, so this is just up the street for me. The lookout gate is open when there is a volunteer to staff the tower. After you exit on 38 as described above, its only another mile or so that you can enter another trail to 7 Oaks etc. They sell a great map of all these trails at the forest service office on Hwy 38 & Bryant....
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Yeah, You should take it the rest of the way, it gets nicer as you go in. Thomas hunting ground is a good place to stop for lunch and I believe its open to camping. I live in Redlands, so this is just up the street for me. The lookout gate is open when there is a volunteer to staff the tower. After you exit on 38 as described above, its only another mile or so that you can enter another trail to 7 Oaks etc. They sell a great map of all these trails at the forest service office on Hwy 38 & Bryant....
I'll have to stop by the forest service and get the map.

You're real close! I'm in Grand Terrace and work in Redlands. Any trails in Redlands? I've actually been looking for a place to go during my lunch hour. My work is off Alabama.
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im in riverside too! i frequent morton area often, more so on the otherside of the highway so my dog can play in the creek in the summer.
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After you exit on 38 as described above, its only another mile or so that you can enter another trail to 7 Oaks etc. ....
Really, it's only about 200 yards and right before the long pull out on the left, it's called middle control road on the map, it's pretty good shape right now except almost at the bottom there is a 100 yards or so that after the snow started melting was a real mess of mud, on my way down sat. morning about 5 am, there was an Audi stuck in this mud on the side of the road with no one around, guess he found that it wasn't a mud bogger! Once you get past this section and reach the bottom and pass over the little bridge, you are now on glass road (paved)and this will take you back up to 38.

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Really, it's only about 200 yards and right before the long pull out on the left, it's called middle control road on the map, it's pretty good shape right now except almost at the bottom there is a 100 yards or so that after the snow started melting was a real mess of mud, on my way down sat. morning about 5 am, there was an Audi stuck in this mud on the side of the road with no one around, guess he found that it wasn't a mud bogger! Once you get past this section and reach the bottom and pass over the little bridge, you are now on glass road (paved)and this will take you back up to 38.

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Yes, you are correct Middle control Rd is really close to the morton trail exit (should be and maybe connected somewhere) Its usually very smooth except for the water you mention in winter. Down the trail (near the bridge) there is another trail (1N09 or 1N45) That trail will take you either West to Hwy 330 or NE to Big Bear or a trail that runs the same as 38 and ends up back onto 38 many miles up the road. Very Cool trail system...one at a time....I dont think any are Black Diamond.
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I'll have to stop by the forest service and get the map.

You're real close! I'm in Grand Terrace and work in Redlands. Any trails in Redlands? I've actually been looking for a place to go during my lunch hour. My work is off Alabama.
Actually, there may be some over off Barton Road and MT View. My wife works in the area and she was told by a Dr that there were trails at the end of Mt View. I havent looked for them yet, so I cant confirm.
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Yes, you are correct Middle control Rd is really close to the morton trail exit (should be and maybe connected somewhere) Its usually very smooth except for the water you mention in winter. Down the trail (near the bridge) there is another trail (1N09 or 1N45) That trail will take you either West to Hwy 330 or NE to Big Bear or a trail that runs the same as 38 and ends up back onto 38 many miles up the road. Very Cool trail system...one at a time....I dont think any are Black Diamond.
As of this weekend the trail that you are talking about that takes you to 330 has the gate locked down at bear creek, but the other one to Big Bear would be either clarks grade or farther east is radford road both were open this last weekend but had snow on them and both would take you to Big Bear.

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If you ever decide to take Clarks grade up to Big Bear, make sure to stop at Bellyache Springs and check out the carbonated water that flows out of the ground, at least it used to.

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Actually, there may be some over off Barton Road and MT View. My wife works in the area and she was told by a Dr that there were trails at the end of Mt View. I havent looked for them yet, so I cant confirm.
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I'll definitely have to check that out. Might try on Monday if the mud isn't too bad. I know the stock tires don't do well in mud...
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Really, it's only about 200 yards and right before the long pull out on the left, it's called middle control road on the map, it's pretty good shape right now except almost at the bottom there is a 100 yards or so that after the snow started melting was a real mess of mud, on my way down sat. morning about 5 am, there was an Audi stuck in this mud on the side of the road with no one around, guess he found that it wasn't a mud bogger! Once you get past this section and reach the bottom and pass over the little bridge, you are now on glass road (paved)and this will take you back up to 38.

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An AUDI?? Was it a sedan or SUV? What was he thinking?
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As of this weekend the trail that you are talking about that takes you to 330 has the gate locked down at bear creek, but the other one to Big Bear would be either clarks grade or farther east is radford road both were open this last weekend but had snow on them and both would take you to Big Bear.

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Donn, I dont find the trail by Bear creek (found the creek, but not a trail) It was closed from the gate off 330 as well. I havent done Clarks grade, but I may this weekend (weather permitting) Bellyache springs sounds cool, Do you have to walk in? The trail goes by there, but the closest one is a dotted line. Thanks for the info.
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An AUDI?? Was it a sedan or SUV? What was he thinking?
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The trail that is gated is the same one as the one comming from 330, just the other end of it. Clarks grade itself is not bad even in bad weather, I was bear hunting 2 years ago at Clarks when we got a foot of fresh snow and I still made it up the grade in 2 wd BUT FRESH SNOW is the key word here, once it melts the mud can be very slippery but only then it is before you get to the grade, not up the grade itself. The worst part if you were to get there by way of the middle control road is where the Audi was stuck nearly at the bottom but you will make that with no problem, the only other realy slick part will be after you get back off of the pavement and start back on the dirt road down at Seven Oaks road, you go past the first split and stay to the right then maybe a 1/2 mile farther just before the next split you will come across the worst section of mud, It's a straight shot but it's about 100 yds long and up hill, when you pass this every thing else will be a piece of cake. I don't want to scare you away from taking this trip but I would like for you to know what you are up against as I was there last weekend. It is supposed to rain or snow this weekend so if there is snow on the road then it will be much better. The last time I was actually at Bellyache springs and the water, was back about 1979 or 80 and the road went all of the way to the springs, I was on the trail last year but didn't go all of the way back. If the road is too over grown and you have to walk then keep an eye out to the right side up the hill about 75 to 100 yards and look for alot of brown looking rusty crap on the ground and this will be where the carbonated water comes out of the ground.

If you make the trip, let us know how it turns out.

P.S. Take a map so that when you get to the top you can find your way down into Big Bear.

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I talked to a friend last night that used to have a fixed up Cherokee -- he said there are trails off Reche Canyon, said he'd show me where.

I did a quick search on google and found this short video:


Has anyone been on it, know where it starts, difficulty, etc?
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I have done a few trails off of Reche Canyon. At the time I did not know, but most of the land out there is privately owned. Be cautious out there as there are not really any posted signs stating private property.

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Actually, there may be some over off Barton Road and MT View. My wife works in the area and she was told by a Dr that there were trails at the end of Mt View. I havent looked for them yet, so I cant confirm.
I was bored today, so decided to check. There's a trail, but it's blocked and has a sign that says "no vehicles...". Looks like hiking only. There was even a sign that had a trail map. Looked pretty cool for hiking. Oh well. The search will continue.
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Those are just plastic post. You can drive right over them...

You going to make the Big Bear run this coming weekend?

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It was open, but the rains last year created a huge flood down Mt View (Check youtube) My wifes office had several storage units well down the rd on the East side of the street and they were full of mud. It may have caused so much damage they closed it.
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If you ever decide to take Clarks grade up to Big Bear, make sure to stop at Bellyache Springs and check out the carbonated water that flows out of the ground, at least it used to.

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Beware if you decide to take clarks grade over to Big Bear, as of about 2 weeks ago it was closed "for winter" the sign said but you could still get as far as Bellyache Springs turn off.

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