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Old 02-05-2014, 01:36 PM   #61
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I use a WiFI only iPAD running MotionX, connected via Bluetooth to a Spot Connect for GPS Coordinates. Works great.

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It's a Garmin 760, doesn't do trails/off road very well. I had it mounted for comparison mainly.

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I would like to use a chartploter and upload maps.

Are there SD Cards available loaded with TOPO Maps ?
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i am a fan of all the apple products, but i didn't want to spend that kind of money on a new ipad and take it off roading. although i have motionx on my iPhone and it works pretty good without an external antenna. so i looked into the samsung tab 10.1, they have and internal gps so theres no need to buy the aux gps(unless you're super concerned about accuracy). droid uses backcountry nav, which works really well. i had a hard time fitting a 10" screen in the jeep without compromising my view of the road so i scratched it. i went back to a lowrance hds-5m unit.

here's a couple links that i found useful in my tablet/ipad as a gps search:Add Custom Maps to Motion X GPS HD - TLC FAQ

riveria racing using motionx
Apple - iPad - Life on iPad - Gearing up for the win

my lowrance. i am in the midst of trimming the paneling to the gps sits flush with the stock panels. should look good, but kind of tedious

Thats what i have and the same location, i have no idea how to use it! I have no need for this thing either. Whats it worth?
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I just bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1" last night, so now looking to get a GPS and mount for it.

I'm thinking of something like the Bad Elf or blu tooth one by dual electronics that iconic posted.

Also going to want a mount. I like the mount DAK posted that puts the ball at the end of the grab handle. I have a ball mounted Ram mount that sticks on the top of the dash for my phone and love that combo. Looking to do the same with the tablet.

Any new input would be appreciated. I'm getting better at learning the areas, but would like that little dot on the screen to tell me where I'm at on the map ha ha.
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Cant believe I havent seen this thread till now. :/ Oh well, some on here will say that I dont get lost, but that isnt true and I just hide it very well. But most of the places that I do wheel (Borrego, Big Bear, Calico, etc.) I have explored and "just know". But for those new areas that I dont know. I usually go for a bunch of research, and printing out maps. I also use Cell service (if I have it). Recently though I have been using my iPad Mini 64GB Wifi Only (keep in mind it is Jailbroken) with Google Maps. I know what you are saying, "how does he get GPS?" Typically I will use my iPhone 5 (which is also jailbroken) and tether the two together and piggy back the GPS off the phone. But this week I discovered a tweak that forces Google Maps to hold the downloaded maps in a cache on the device. This allows me to look at the Maps while out and about without using my phones data, or having to buy a Bluetooth/GPS Receiver (which I will probably end up doing one of these days). Does this solution give you access to trails, up to date position, or tracking your position? No but it allows me not to have paper maps floating around in the Jeep. The tweak works on both iPhone and iPad, and is free. Free is good for me. I know this is a little off topic of the GPS thread but it is a good option for those of you willing to modify your iPad/iPhone and get the feature.

Edit: Ill post a pic of the mount in the Jeep next time I have it in there, mine Jiggles a little but for $25 cant complain.
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Old 05-30-2014, 10:29 PM   #67
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I use the Google Nexus 7: Amazon.com: Google Nexus 7 Tablet (7-Inch, 16GB, Black) by ASUS (2013): Computers & Accessories

Paired it with Backcountry Navigator, and I think its the most ideal solution. The 7" screen is large enough to provide a ton of detail, but small enough to still not be a bother.
Here it is connected to one of my GoPro cams:

The size is definitely not an issue when properly mounted. I used an Arkon mount that extends farther from the windshield, it helps get the tablet closer to eye view, and at the same time, lets you place it lower so it doesn't obstruct your view. This is the mount I used: Amazon.com: Arkon Tablet Windshield Mount (TAB-CM117): Electronics
It can be adjusted in multiple ways, telescope it out, up, down on the suction mount, and has a full pivoting ball socket mount to freely adjust the tablet. It impressed the hell out of me, even on the ugliest washboard road that thing did not come off the windshield.

When trail riding, I turn the tablet vertical and set the display to "Track Up" and that gives me a really long view ahead of the trail. I use zoom 17 on Backcountry Navigator because you can read the details of the text well and still get a detailed view of everything. The Nexus 7 has a 1920 x 1200 HD screen and those pixels go a long way for displaying map details. Here is a shot of a map as I approached Hole in The Rock in Utah:

The maps are awesome, and yes, you download them, so you don't need a cell signal to use them. Battery life is superb on the Nexus 7, its a 9hr+ battery, depending of course on a ton of settings light screen brightness and load. Mine is plugged in for trail use, so it stays at 100%.
I also use the Nexus 7 at the same time to run Torque and monitor a couple of different parameters via a Bluetooth On Board Diagnostic module. Here is a pic of that:


Torque lets you set up different alarms for events. I like to setup a transmission temp alarm to monitor that, since there is no transmission temp gauge on the Jeep, but there is a sensor there and you can read the data and display it. I've had mine overheat when 4wheeling before, and have been left wondering what it was, then it cools down and you can resume as normal. With torque, I know if the tranny temp got too high, or if the voltage on my alternator drops too low, or coolant temp is too high, etc. etc. It'll run in the background and send audible and visual alarms if something happens.

I also use it for APRS tracking with my ham radio, or playing music via bluetooth to the vehicle. It'll do all these things at once, no hiccups. It's got killer power, and I never hit the trail without it. Best investment ever!
Saving this one………
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Dang, I got to get with it... Still trying how to re-fold my paper maps.
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Dang, I got to get with it... Still trying how to re-fold my paper maps.
I still have Paper Maps for when the battery goes dead
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I still have Paper Maps for when the battery goes dead
amen to that!!! its like having soaked & wet matches, thats how i feel about GPS.

but nothing like knowing how to read the sun & stars, way better than GPS.
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I just bought the dual electronics bluetooth gps today. Looking forward to trying it out.
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Just got it. Yay Amazon!
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Sweet...you'll be able to use it to track these new to you trails we're going to run this weekend bud.
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Sweet...you'll be able to use it to track these new to you trails we're going to run this weekend bud.
Yup, that's the idea. I was going to wait until my next payday, but I want to have it for Sunday.
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amen to that!!! its like having soaked & wet matches, thats how i feel about GPS.

but nothing like knowing how to read the sun & stars, way better than GPS.
Yup, I always try to have a grasp on North and where I have come from. That way I can always work my way out the way I came.
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Holy thread revival.
So the hubster bought a hiking type hand held GPS. A Garmin 62TSC. It has Topo Maps loaded. But when I used it this weekend all I could see was my current route and elevations- no trails or route numbers. I was a blue dot on a map somewhere south of the lake. Not really helpful when trying to navigate- just when I needed to backtrack. I went to Topo maps but they're all the same style map. Should I be downloading a different map?
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If there is a way to get forest service maps on there that is what I would go with
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Holy thread revival.
So the hubster bought a hiking type hand held GPS. A Garmin 62TSC. It has Topo Maps loaded. But when I used it this weekend all I could see was my current route and elevations- no trails or route numbers. I was a blue dot on a map somewhere south of the lake. Not really helpful when trying to navigate- just when I needed to backtrack. I went to Topo maps but they're all the same style map. Should I be downloading a different map?
I have an older handheld Garmin in addition to Backcountry Navigator on my Android devices. The 100k maps that come preloaded onto your 62stc are not too bad, but you have the ability to purchase and load their 24k maps which have more detail. I used the 100k Garmin maps for 6 or 7 years before only recently switching to the 24k maps. Major hiking trails (like PCT) and dirt roads are often labeled, but a lot of trails are only marked (not labeled), and some non-existent on the map. It helps to find gps tracks and waypoints of the area you're going to, and preload them onto your device before your trip, to assist in route guidance.
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So the hubster bought a hiking type hand held GPS. A Garmin 62TSC. It has Topo Maps loaded. But when I used it this weekend all I could see was my current route and elevations- no trails or route numbers. I was a blue dot on a map somewhere south of the lake. Not really helpful when trying to navigate- just when I needed to backtrack. I went to Topo maps but they're all the same style map. Should I be downloading a different map?
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I have an older handheld Garmin in addition to Backcountry Navigator on my Android devices. The 100k maps that come preloaded onto your 62stc are not too bad, but you have the ability to purchase and load their 24k maps which have more detail. I used the 100k Garmin maps for 6 or 7 years before only recently switching to the 24k maps. Major hiking trails (like PCT) and dirt roads are often labeled, but a lot of trails are only marked (not labeled), and some non-existent on the map. It helps to find gps tracks and waypoints of the area you're going to, and preload them onto your device before your trip, to assist in route guidance.
You did this on your Garmin Armand?

Jen - I was looking at this myself the other day. I have android and Backcountry Navigator, but probably similar to what your using on iPhone.

I was looking at the paid maps. There's a few different options. One is $20 / year, I think the other is $12 / year. The maps are good in Backcountry, but not great. Some have the trail designations marked but don't show other details like highways, etc. Others have the highways, but no trail designations.

I'm going to research which is the best of the paid maps and try one out.
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Did what?

My old Garmin GPSMAP 60Csx did not come with any preloaded maps. I initially purchased and loaded it with the 100k maps, and just recently replaced those with the 24k maps. I transfer gps tracks and waypoints to and from my Garmin using their BaseCamp and MapInstall software on my computer.

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Jen - I was looking at this myself the other day. I have android and Backcountry Navigator, but probably similar to what your using on iPhone.

I was looking at the paid maps. There's a few different options. One is $20 / year, I think the other is $12 / year. The maps are good in Backcountry, but not great. Some have the trail designations marked but don't show other details like highways, etc. Others have the highways, but no trail designations.

I'm going to research which is the best of the paid maps and try one out.
The 24k CalTopo maps that come free with Backcountry Navigator are not too bad. I usually use the Accuterra Topo Maps which have a cleaner, more modern look, but I don't think they're worth the annual license (I think it's $20/yr?), considering the CalTopo maps are free. I'm grandfathered in because I initially purchased the Accuterra Topo Maps back when it was just a one-time fee, so I don't have to pay the annual license for it.
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Did what?

My old Garmin GPSMAP 60Csx did not come with any preloaded maps. I initially purchased and loaded it with the 100k maps, and just recently replaced those with the 24k maps. I transfer gps tracks and waypoints to and from my Garmin using their BaseCamp and MapInstall software on my computer.



The 24k CalTopo maps that come free with Backcountry Navigator are not too bad. I usually use the Accuterra Topo Maps which have a cleaner, more modern look, but I don't think they're worth the annual license (I think it's $20/yr?), considering the CalTopo maps are free. I'm grandfathered in because I initially purchased the Accuterra Topo Maps back when it was just a one-time fee, so I don't have to pay the annual license for it.
Thanks for the info. Sucks that I can't look at the maps and then decide if I want to pay the $20. There are a few decent maps to choose from.
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Backcountry Navigator didn't have all those map choices when I first bought it. It was pretty much either free USGS or paid AccuTerra at that time. Anyway, here a sample CalTopo vs AccuTerra map of the same area.

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Thanks Yomondo! So the blue lines are your prior trips and labels. I went to Cal Topo and Accuterra. I'd say CalTopo shows more trails and trail numbers- but like you said Accuterra is easier to read I think. But for the life of me I couldn't find where to export or save the map once I found it on Accuterra. Ah well. Here is the CalTopo as it appears normally:
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for the life of me I couldn't find where to export or save the map once I found it on Accuterra.
In Backcountry Navigator, to save maps (AccuTerra, CalTopo, or any of the others) to your device, click on the "Map Layers" button on the top, 3rd button from the right. On the "Map Layers" page, click on "Select Areas for Download", and follow the instructions for downloading the map to your device for a selected area.
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Thanks for posting those screenshots.

The ones I am considering are a Cal topo, Accutera Hybrid. I might buy it for one year. Definitely sucks that you can buy it outright though.
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I use my two different apps on my iPhone. Motion-X GPS (not the "Drive" version) offers several preloaded map types. You can also load USGS Topo maps via online server if you prefer those. Here's a screen shot:




I also use GPS Maps 3D, which offers fewer maps but does allow 3D viewing. See here:



I did not post the USGS Topo maps screenshots, but I did find out about how to download them from a thread somewhere on this forum... just can't remember where.
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I am in the Process of mounting our Lowrance Elite 7 HDI that we use for fishing in the Jeep. Bought a topo/road map from PCI Race Radios and have been having fun with it. Just hooked it up to my Scion just to play, since the Jeep isnt home yet: Here is an example of the PCI map, has huge detail of the entire west coast:

It will be in the Jeep at the M&G up in Big Bear next weekend.
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I am in the Process of mounting our Lowrance Elite 7 HDI that we use for fishing in the Jeep. Bought a topo/road map from PCI Race Radios and have been having fun with it. Just hooked it up to my Scion just to play, since the Jeep isnt home yet: Here is an example of the PCI map, has huge detail of the entire west coast:

It will be in the Jeep at the M&G up in Big Bear next weekend.
Which chip did you get Kota? My dad recently put a HDS5 in his jeep. That looks like some nice detail.
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Which chip did you get Kota? My dad recently put a HDS5 in his jeep. That looks like some nice detail.
I dont know if it is listed on PCI's Website. I called them to ask them what they recommended and he said they had one that covered the West coast. It has Topo, and very detailed roads along with back country roads. It doesnt have trails (ie: JB, Holcomb, etc). But I have been collecting trails from other sources and converting them to Lowrance to be read by the GPS.

The maps did come on a PCI labeled SD Card so it might be some of their own home brew.
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I am in the Process of mounting our Lowrance Elite 7 HDI that we use for fishing in the Jeep. Bought a topo/road map from PCI Race Radios and have been having fun with it. Just hooked it up to my Scion just to play, since the Jeep isnt home yet: Here is an example of the PCI map, has huge detail of the entire west coast:

It will be in the Jeep at the M&G up in Big Bear next weekend.
This is what i've been looking for, let us know how easy it is to operate and what you think about it.
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