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Old 12-23-2013, 06:12 AM   #1
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Panamint Valley Rd condition

Anyone been out there since the "great" flood? Am wondering what the condition of the road actually is and what the bypass around the flood damaged area is like?

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Old 12-23-2013, 10:26 AM   #2
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The road is still closed and I have heard that if you get caught on the closed section by the CHP you will get a heafty ticket. In fact a guy staying at the Mineatta cabin was complaining to us during PVD that he got caught and ticketed. Said something like it's a $1500 ticket! OUCH!

Anyway use your best judgement Dave.

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Not sure what your needing to do but if your looking to get across the valley legally to the 190 from the Trona side you can do so by running the old Nadeau trail....you'll see it on your left just after you drop down into the valley and before you come to the paved Nadeau rd. This trail will take you to the 190 just east of Panamint Springs...
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Old 12-23-2013, 07:34 PM   #4
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Will be coming fm the 190 to Trona. Was wondering if it was closed at the 190 or if you could make it wildrose cutoff and go through ballarat.
Can you at least get to ballarat?
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The short answer in no...the way I suggested earlier is the only legal way...unless you want to go crashing through the desert..
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:05 AM   #6
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Okay then Nadeau it is. No biggie we are in JEEPs after all. Hopefully you can get to Ballarat from Trona. What is interesting is that CA.gov reports that the 178 is open with no restrictions and the DV road site reports its closed. Then reading the Kern County DOT transportation contracts the roads appear to be repaired as well.

Guess we will find out what the real story is and report back.
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:06 AM   #7
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Anyway use your best judgement Dave.
Often that doesn't align with those in authority.
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:55 AM   #8
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DaK,

When are you going?

Living in Ridgecrest, it wouldn't take much to convince me to go out there and see where the road is closed. I know it is closed at 190/Panamint Valley Road over by Panamint Springs.

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Old 12-24-2013, 11:41 AM   #9
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Heading north the road is closed at Trona rd and Ballarat.
Heading south the raid is closed at 190 and Panamint Valley rd.
Once again... you can take Nadeau rd/trail that runs the west side of the valley along the base of the Argues Mts to get from the south to the north...this will take you right by the Minnietta mine and will allow you to go through Stone Canyon and all the fun stuff in the Argues range.
From the south you can still get to Ballarat the same as always...
Hope this helps you on your adventures...
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Old 12-24-2013, 05:18 PM   #10
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Steve, just heard fm a rangerout there....
As you said road is open to the wildrose panamint split from trona. Will be taking nadeau fm 190 on the way back. Might take slant range down to the divide as we can make better time on the pavement. Will chat with a ranger about that option when we get to furnance creek.
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DaK,

When are you going?

Living in Ridgecrest, it wouldn't take much to convince me to go out there and see where the road is closed. I know it is closed at 190/Panamint Valley Road over by Panamint Springs.

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Hal thanks for the offer but not necessary. Ranger got back to us.
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Hey DaK,

I did the Nadeau road today. Took slightly less than 2 hours once I turned off the paved Nadeau road. Mostly 2 WD with a few "fun" spots and a couple of detours. Just under 15 miles of dirt.

There is a 3-4 ft high pile of dirt going across the road at the Ballerat turn off with lots of ROAD CLOSED signs. The road to Ballerat is open so access to those trails should be fine.

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Old 12-24-2013, 09:32 PM   #13
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Here is the real deal as of yesterday with this road.

It is blocked starting at the exit to Ballarat to Wildrose Canyon and CA 190. There is a 3' berm of dirt blocking the road. While there we did see one car go around, we don't know his fate with the road or CHP.

On CA 190 there is another 3' berm of dirt blocking the road so if you don't wish to go through Olancha you take Nadeau Rd over to Trona Rd. As Hal stated this road will take you two hrs. We didn't air down, which we should have, as the ride would have been more comfortable but it is doable.

On the bright side there is a new Shell station in Trona that is operational. The Valero was having issues with their pumps but the Shell was up and working like a champ and the bathrooms are clean. Which is a major plus up from when it was a Chevron.

Coyote Canyon/Goler wash is still very passable. The waterfalls haven't returned with the latest rains. Road is very well graded. Would state that someone in a high clearance vehicle and two wheel drive would have little to no problem negotiating this road. Mengal Pass is easier than it has ever been. We had one guy in tow with us who was in one of the rented Jeeps, 2 door Sport on 33's and 2.5 inch lift, got through Mengal with no issues. Butte Road is passable in a high clearance vehicle, IMO as there are large rocks throughout the road. The West Side Road appears to have been freshly graded but we only ran the portion from Butte/Warm Springs Rd to Death Valley Rd.

So there you have it, information current as of 25DEC13.
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To add to Dave's description we started on Nadeau Rd about 7pm and stuff just looks bigger and nasty at night. The trail is tore up from rains we found ourselves off the trail twice but managed threw to Trona two hours later. No wind lots of stars just icing on the cake on our Xmas day run to DV

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