I think your talking about Ron from Redlands motorsports who made it up and he's on more then 37's. The guy who needed a winch was on 37's and a friend of mine, so I won't mention Wayne's name. And yes Rick, when you bottomed out, it was quite loud at the bottom of the hill. It's not everyday us 2-door'ers get to grandstand, so we have to take advantage of it. 2 door'ers forever. Mark.