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Old 05-03-2012, 05:25 PM   #1
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I am in Ventura County. Big Bear is already a set destination. I know Johnson Valley is pretty near and so is Ocotillo Wells. Anyone have any reccommendations ? any great spots for camping, sight seeing, awesome trails ( including Big Bear ) And is there any where i can get or print a map of the trails in Big Bear?
Also planning on doing some onshore fishing so if you have any tips they would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 05-03-2012, 06:04 PM   #2
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I am in Ventura County. Big Bear is already a set destination. I know Johnson Valley is pretty near and so is Ocotillo Wells. Anyone have any reccommendations ? any great spots for camping, sight seeing, awesome trails ( including Big Bear ) And is there any where i can get or print a map of the trails in Big Bear?
Also planning on doing some onshore fishing so if you have any tips they would be greatly appreciated!

-Ethan
There are LOTS of trails in Big Bear, just depends on how hard you want it to be. Just did Holcomb last Saturday and that's a great trail! You could probably spend all 3 days in Big Bear and not do the same trail twice.

Many camped at Holcomb Campground. Great area!

Check Dirtopia.com for maps.

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X2 For Big Bear and camping at the Holcomb Campground. First come, first serve, $12.00 a night during off season and a ton of trails near by. Also, a great brewery/resturaunt in Fawnskin real close to the Holcomb campsite. Fun trails that I like are Gold Mtn, (a personal favorite in the area), closer to Lake Arrowhead is Pilot Rock and Cleghorn near Lake Silverwood.

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X3...I help maintain Holcomb..pretty good trail; several rock gardens on that trail...Gold mountain rocks..Heartbreak Ridge is another fav of mine...Dishpan and John Bull are always fun.

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Old 05-03-2012, 08:46 PM   #5
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There is a 3 day off road trek. starting from 15n at cleghorn you can take about 6-7 trails that is approx 95 miles long all together and end up in johnson valley.
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Cajon Pass to Johnson Valley

The trail (2N47) starts at 3000' in the Cajon Pass just off Interstate 215 in Southern California. The trail starts as a graded dirt road. As the trail climbs to the East there are many bypasses off the main road that are steep and deeply rutted. They will challenge your driving skills. All the bypasses connect back to the main road. The trail reaches the top of the Cleghorn Ridge at 5000'. The trail continues east to Silverwood Lake. Once at Silverwood Lake there will be a short 2 mile excursion on pavement to reach the next section of trail. From the Cedar Springs Dam you will be back on a graded dirt (3N33) for a short distance until you reach 2N17X. 2N17X is an old firebreak and runs directly up the ridgeline. It is steep and loose and it will challenge your driving skills. When you reach the top you will be back on 3N33 Pilot Rock Ridge Rd. There are multiple bypasses on 3N33 that are steep and deeply rutted. Continuing East you will reach Rock Camp on Hwy 173. A short jaunt on pavement will bring you to the Willow Creek Trail and Pinnacles Staging Area. Pinnacles Staging Area has pit toilets. From Pinnacles Staging Area you will run another old firebreak (3N34X) It is steep and deeply rutted. Shortly after reconnecting with 3N34 you will cross Willow Creek. Willow Creek can be as high as your headlights in the Spring or less than one foot deep near the end of the Summer. You will continue East through Maloney Canyon, Stove Flats and Rouse Meadow. After a short southerly jaunt you will reach Hook Creek Rd. Continuing East you will come to a concrete bridge over Deep Creek. This bridge is numbered T-6. Deep Creek supports the greatest diversity of wildlife habitats of any drainage on the San Bernardino National Forest and has earned the State designation of a Wild Trout Stream. If you have a day to hike Deep Creek you will be amazed at the scenery and fabulous pools located both up and down stream from T-6. IMHO Deep Creek is the ...was the best kept secret in Southern California. After you cross T-6 you will be continuing on 3N34 on a black diamond section of trail known as Dishpan Springs. The trail is deeply rutted and full of small to medium rocks. There are two dry waterfalls to climb. The first is the smaller of the two and usually is not much trouble. The second waterfall is nearly vertical and 8' tall. Front and rear lockers are highly recommended. There is a fun bypass to the left around the second waterfall if you so choose. Continuing East the black diamond trail ends at Tent Peg Group Campground and you will be on a fire road for a few of miles. Just Past Crab Flats Campground you will turn onto 3N16. Continue East on 3N16 until you reach Holcomb Creek. Holcomb Creek is another very special area in the San Bernardino National Forest. Not only is 3N93 rated a black diamond trail that will test you and your vehicles abilities, but the scenery on the eastern half of the trail is spectacular. There are multiple rock gardens with lines from moderate to extreme if you so choose. Rock size varies from small to larger. You will climb from 5400' to over 6500' along the 6-1/2 mile trail. Leaving 3N93 you will make a short jog on 3N14 to 3N08. Continuing on 3N08 to 3N16 and the historic Holcomb Valley at 7400'. We will turn off 3N16 and head for John Bull Flat. 3N10 John Bull is the last black diamond trail on our journey. John Bull will test you and your vehicles abilities. There are multiple rock gardens with lines from moderate to extreme if you so choose. Rock size varies from small to larger. We will cross 8200' our highest point along our journey. Leaving John Bull Flat you will make your way back down to the Western end of Holcomb Valley and head for Jacoby Canyon. Jacoby Canyon will start our descent out of the high country. There are some fantastic rock formations just off the trail along Jacoby Canyon. At the bottom of Jacoby Canyon we take a short pavement section to 3N03. Once on 3N03 you will pass cactus Flats Staging Area. Pit toilets are available. Continuing southeast on 3N03 through Lone Valley you will pass the Bighorn Sheep Wilderness Area on your left. Tip Top Mountain will be on your left at 2N90. Tip Top Mountain has mining artifacts and on top an old antenna tower. Just beyond Tip Top Mountain will be the Rose Mine area. Lots to explore in this area. Beyond the Rose Mine is Mineral Mountain on your left and Heartbreak Ridge on your right. North on Viscera Springs Rd headed for Rattlesnake Canyon. Rattlesnake Canyon is a motorized corridor through the Bighorn Wilderness. Please stay within 60' of the centerline of the road. There is still open grazing in Rattlesnake Canyon so be aware of cattle. They have the right of way. Leaving Rattlesnake Canyon we will be at 3800' in the high desert area of Johnson Valley. Our journey ends at Hwy 62 "Old Woman Springs Rd". The Johnson Valley OHV area is across highway 62.


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Distance: 93 miles
Trail time: 16 hours on a summer weekday. 24 hours on a summer weekend. May not be passable in the winter due to snow.
Difficulty (1-5): 3.0
Vehicle classes: High Clearance 4wd, Small/Medium Dualsport

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