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Old 06-06-2014, 01:35 PM   #31
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What are the requirements for the Rubicon? I've got a 2005 TJ with 4" Lift on 33's.. No lockers.. But have a winch.. Is it doable?

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I have a buddy with a similar build. He's not going. I don't know, you're probably going to need some help on a lot of obstacles.

Some say there are a lot of bypasses. Others say there isn't, just a hard line and a harder line.

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What are the requirements for the Rubicon? I've got a 2005 TJ with 4" Lift on 33's.. No lockers.. But have a winch.. Is it doable?

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I think a TJ on 35s locked f/r or a jku on 37s locked f/r is the ticket.

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Old 06-06-2014, 03:46 PM   #33
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I have a 97 TJ, 4.0, 5sp, 4 to 1 TC, 3.5 RE long arm lift, 456's, 33" Toyos on 15 x8 Ultra rims, and front and rear ARB lockers, skids and sliders I have done the trail many times with this set up. The last time the front locker was not working, and still made it with 10psi in tires. I think that the trail can be done with only a geared rear locker. Spotters are a help at times when in doubt also. Also nice to go with a group and watch driving lines of rigs in front of you to decide if you want to go that route, or pick your own way. Enjoy.
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I think a TJ on 35s locked f/r or a jku on 37s locked f/r is the ticket.
He would be fine. After all the cleanup they did he golden.
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He would be fine. After all the cleanup they did he golden.
Sweet!
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Bump!

Tested out the GearShade this week. Went awesome! Put the top back on but left the freedom panels off. Next time the top comes off will be on the Rubicon!
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I did the Dusy Ershim, on Open Diffs, and 32's....I'm IN!
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I may be able to make it, we'll see. I'm heading up at the end of June to run it, the first week of august, and sometime in between. My rear driveshaft needing to be rebuilt is the only thing stopping me from going on your trip. Hopefully I can rebuild it by then.

Made it through no problems last summer 33's with a limited slip. Now I've got lower gears and rear locker.
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I did the Dusy Ershim, on Open Diffs, and 32's....I'm IN!
Wtf. Really? You can be our guide next year on that run. Bwahaha
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I may be able to make it, we'll see. I'm heading up at the end of June to run it, the first week of august, and sometime in between. My rear driveshaft needing to be rebuilt is the only thing stopping me from going on your trip. Hopefully I can rebuild it by then.

Made it through no problems last summer 33's with a limited slip. Now I've got lower gears and rear locker.
Ok. They say they trail is getting much easier. I know a bunch of locked jku's on 35s now doing the trail easily.
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Ok. They say they trail is getting much easier. I know a bunch of locked jku's on 35s now doing the trail easily.
The Jeep Jamboree Folks guide bone stock JK Sports through the Rubicon with no damage. Just lots of scraping and screeching. It's been over 20 years since I ran it. I don't remember it being super technical or difficult. It's just set in some of the most gorgeous country that God ever made that I can see people not paying attention to their line that causes the biggest headaches. Have FUN All Y'all, it looks like I'm not wheeling for a while still. Damn job...
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The Jeep Jamboree Folks guide bone stock JK Sports through the Rubicon with no damage. Just lots of scraping and screeching. It's been over 20 years since I ran it. I don't remember it being super technical or difficult. It's just set in some of the most gorgeous country that God ever made that I can see people not paying attention to their line that causes the biggest headaches. Have FUN All Y'all, it looks like I'm not wheeling for a while still. Damn job...
I've looked into that. They required full skids last year. They also do not hit all of the main obsticles and and also put you into groups so they know who can do what. I've also heard from a reliable source (JPI) that run the trail every year.... The volunteers fill in the holes the week prior.

Yes Rob you need to inform your job that they are cramping your style. Lol.
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I've looked into that. They required full skids last year. They also do not hit all of the main obsticles and and also put you into groups so they know who can do what. I've also heard from a reliable source (JPI) that run the trail every year.... The volunteers fill in the holes the week prior. Yes Rob you need to inform your job that they are cramping your style. Lol.
I was under the impression that JPI has only done the Rubicon once which was last year.
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I was under the impression that JPI has only done the Rubicon once which was last year.
I suppose we can ask him, I believe in my conversation with Stan he said his group of buddies go every year. I don't know, maybe that trend started last year. Lol.

There are 3 jamborees between our trip and stans in August. The one that starts like 3-6 days after us is the official jeep one that has been doing it for 60 some years. He said their volunteers stack the rocks prior. Who knows. Maybe we will see them doing it on the trail.
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You all not need to worry about your rig being able to make it. I took this picture Saturday morning about 6am. Yes, that is a stock Lexus. Yes, that is gatekeeper on the Rubicon Trail.

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Gatekeeper is much much easier than it used to be after they broke it up. No chance of that getting through little sluice.

I saw several trucks broken down waiting for parts along the way. Axle shafts, driveshafts, even a transmission.
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Little Sluice can be done on 35's or even 33's. They dumped a lot of rock in it via helicopter last year. It is not like it used to be.
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Little Sluice can be done on 35's or even 33's. They dumped a lot of rock in it via helicopter last year. It is not like it used to be.


I know, I got through on 33's last summer
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You all not need to worry about your rig being able to make it. I took this picture Saturday morning about 6am. Yes, that is a stock Lexus. Yes, that is gatekeeper on the Rubicon Trail.
I thought you squeezed through two large rocks? Is that in the loon lake side?
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I thought you squeezed through two large rocks? Is that in the loon lake side?
You talking about these two rocks.

If so your out of luck. I believe these are now gone.
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I thought you squeezed through two large rocks? Is that in the loon lake side?
Gatekeeper is a piece of cake now. The old gatekeeper was blown to pieces due to people going around the two rocks you are thinking about.
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You talking about these two rocks.

If so your out of luck. I believe these are now gone.
$hi!

Those are the rocks. That stinks.
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Any other cool trails out there? After cadalac hill day 3 it should end early. Were thinking of doing the burns (I. Believe) offshoot. If we travel back to the beginning of the trail to the hotel, any cool trails for Friday? Assuming nothing is broke most if us can wheel Friday and head back Saturday.
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Sounds like the Rubicon used to be a lot more challenging...

Jeepers Jamboree "requires" the following for the Rubicon trip they sponsor :

All Vehicles must be street legal or green stickered
All Vehicles must have valid insurance
Seat Belts must be made available for all passengers
Roll bars or factory hard top
Tow hooks
Fire Extinguisher (appropriately secured)


They "suggest" the following :

3.5" Lift and 33" Off-Road Tires
Functional parking brake or micro-lock
Tow Strap or Rope (recommended rated at 2 times the vehicle weight)
First Aid Kit
Hi-Lift Jack (you might need one for changing a tire)
Spare tire with diameter within 3 inches of existing tires (no temporary spares)
Battery Hold Downs (no bungee cords)
Skid Plates
Remove all Hub-Caps and Steps
Must have functioning low range in transfer case
Locker in front or rear
Suggestions: 5 gallon can of gas for older vehicles and rocker panels for more protection.


Cut and pasted from here : https://www.jeepersjamboree.com/vehinfo.html


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Sounds like the Rubicon used to be a lot more challenging... Jeepers Jamboree "requires" the following for the Rubicon trip they sponsor : All Vehicles must be street legal or green stickered All Vehicles must have valid insurance Seat Belts must be made available for all passengers Roll bars or factory hard top Tow hooks Fire Extinguisher (appropriately secured) They "suggest" the following : 3.5" Lift and 33" Off-Road Tires Functional parking brake or micro-lock Tow Strap or Rope (recommended rated at 2 times the vehicle weight) First Aid Kit Hi-Lift Jack (you might need one for changing a tire) Spare tire with diameter within 3 inches of existing tires (no temporary spares) Battery Hold Downs (no bungee cords) Skid Plates Remove all Hub-Caps and Steps Must have functioning low range in transfer case Locker in front or rear Suggestions: 5 gallon can of gas for older vehicles and rocker panels for more protection. Cut and pasted from here : https://www.jeepersjamboree.com/vehinfo.html _
Do they say what obstacles they don't do? Last year there was 1 or 2 they skipped.

Last year I know a few JKUs on 35s that took a beating underneath the rig.
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Do they say what obstacles they don't do? Last year there was 1 or 2 they skipped. Last year I know a few JKUs on 35s that took a beating underneath the rig.
On 35's depending on lift you will leave some paint behind for sure. I know I did.
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Do they say what obstacles they don't do? Last year there was 1 or 2 they skipped.

Last year I know a few JKUs on 35s that took a beating underneath the rig.
No idea... I've never been on the Rubicon.
This year will be the first time.

We are going on the Jeepers Jamboree.

I have an LJ on 35's with full UCF skids. One of my buddies has the same Jeep LJ on 33's with nothing but factory skid and hasn't had a problem for the last three years he has been. So not sure if they bypass some obstacles or what. I hope to know come August.

We do have a JKU on 35's going with us. I should have the full scoop on the Jeepers Jamboree in a couple months once we get back.


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No idea... I've never been on the Rubicon. This year will be the first time. We are going on the Jeepers Jamboree. I have an LJ on 35's with full UCF skids. One of my buddies has the same Jeep LJ on 33's with nothing but factory skid and hasn't had a problem for the last three years he has been. So not sure if they bypass some obstacles or what. I hope to know come August. We do have a JKU on 35's going with us. I should have the full scoop on the Jeepers Jamboree in a couple months once we get back. _
I called them last year. They said I needed a fuel tank, t/c, and engine/oil skid. The jku only had the t/c and tanks. I just couldn't get another skid up front in time. Oh well. I think it will be much more fun with a small group of buddies and another year of wheeling experience.

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