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Old 07-02-2014, 11:48 PM   #1
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Sick of wheeling my DD

I'm getting tired of wheeling my DD. Everytime I break something or need to get something done, it's a real pain to find alternate transportation. It's not even that practical of a DD, nor is it a practical family vehicle. Have you ever crammed 3 child seats into your Jeep? Only to make one trip to take the kids home. Then remove all 3 seats to make room for work equipment...

So I'm considering selling my JKU and getting a dedicated trail rig, and a dedicated DD, would be a pickup with crew cab (Silverado or F150). Since I've only paid 2.5 years of a 5 year loan, it gets a little complicated and I'm having trouble crunching the numbers.

If I end up doing this, my considerations are as follows:

An older JK, LJ, or TJ. What do you think? If I'm not using it as a DD, I could get a 2 door JK.

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Old 07-03-2014, 12:02 AM   #2
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That's a tough one. You already spent money on the jku. Might as well keep it and get a new/used dd/family car.

I too thought about a trail rig but that's another 4-5k on a tj with high miles and then modding it.

Tough choices to make.

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That's a tough one Rick, you have a nice JKU and you have seen its good points and bad. The one thing I know is I wouldn't have felt good taking a nice new rig like you and Scott did (many others as well) and wheel it hard, I would be afraid it wouldn't be in good shape on Monday and it's a big investment. I really like my TJ and it does really well on the trails, but if I was to start again I would probably go with an LJ or used JK 2 door. I still may

Get that thing on Matino Sat, we will get it straightened out
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Why not look at a '90s YJ for a dedicated trail rig?
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I drive mine daily 2 kids and haul steel sticking out the back...

If I didnt work on mine and fabricate I'd be sitting on it broken a few times....so I feel your pain.

Its hard I'd stretch a 2dr tj or jk wouldn't put out for a LJ...
And my build would be what I've done now so gain nothing.....

With all this said buy a cheap truck or car for commuting and work....
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Old 07-03-2014, 12:53 AM   #6
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I absolutely loved my TJ rubicon. If I didn't want more room for taking people with me I never would have sold it. It did everything I asked of it and was fun to drive.
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That's a tough one Rick, you have a nice JKU and you have seen its good points and bad. The one thing I know is I wouldn't have felt good taking a nice new rig like you and Scott did (many others as well) and wheel it hard, I would be afraid it wouldn't be in good shape on Monday and it's a big investment. I really like my TJ and it does really well on the trails, but if I was to start again I would probably go with an LJ or used JK 2 door. I still may

Get that thing on Matino Sat, we will get it straightened out
Yeah, it's a tough one. I have been working on an important project in Arrowhead this week. Monday I was getting some nasty vibrations on the way up the hill. Had to leave early to limp to a mechanic. As I'm sneaking away a little early, boss pulls up as I'm leaving the parking lot with his hands in the air like 'where are you going?'. He understood, but yeah, you get the idea.

Today in borrowed truck, forgot a piece of equipment I needed in my Jeep. Had to call the boss to see if I could borrow from him. Again, he's not thrilled...

So both driveshafts went back to JE Reel for repair.

So borrow wifes car for Tuesday, she needs it Wednesday so borrow father in laws truck. Get chewed out by the wife who gets chewed out by the father in law...

Conversations with the wife lead to eventually getting a truck. So to get a decent truck, possibly wait until the Jeep is paid off, sell it to have a decent down payment AND get a trail rig. That doesn't make any sense. If the eventual outcome is to sell it, why not do so now before it depreciates another few years.

I could keep it and then get a used truck when it's paid off. However, my goal is to have the ultimate trail rig. Heading to the hammers a few weeks ago has me not exactly liking the length of the 4 door.

Bottom line, I want a rig I can wheel hard. If it breaks, I can tow it home and fix it when I can. Not be forced to fix ASAP and stress out my family.

My wife also said to just not wheel any hard stuff. We all know that's not going to happen.

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Why not look at a '90s YJ for a dedicated trail rig?
That's a possibility too. Just don't really want something with really high miles and would probably have to do a spring conversion. Might just be better to start with a TJ.
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A 4dr is capable there if built right....

A stretched 2dr Rubicon jk at 106" wb would be nice though....

Yeah, your reasons make sense......I sold my first 4dr and built up a 2dr loved it but left some things to be desired....

Back to 4dr....I'll keep this one and add a gen 1 4runner as a dedicated rock rig....
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I drive mine daily 2 kids and haul steel sticking out the back...

If I didnt work on mine and fabricate I'd be sitting on it broken a few times....so I feel your pain.

Its hard I'd stretch a 2dr tj or jk wouldn't put out for a LJ...
And my build would be what I've done now so gain nothing.....

With all this said buy a cheap truck or car for commuting and work....
I thought about that too -- get a TJ and eventually stretch it.

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I absolutely loved my TJ rubicon. If I didn't want more room for taking people with me I never would have sold it. It did everything I asked of it and was fun to drive.
Too bad you don't still have it Bob. We could trade!
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A 4dr is capable there if built right....

A stretched 2dr Rubicon jk at 106" wb would be nice though....
Yeah, at least with a 2dr JK, I might be able to keep some things like bumpers. Not much else. Maybe my front D44 and rear ARB if I get a sport. But probably better to start with a Rubi for the tcase.

Plus tube/half doors for a 2 dr would be half the cost of a 4 dr. lol
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Buy a beat junkie for kids and work.

Have you tried putting 3 kids seats in the back of something that's economical? Same predicament your in now.

Something bigger and bad'er than the jku that fits all the kids & the work junk?
Prolly get the same mileage if a few years older, new yukon and silverados are pricey but get better mileage.

I've got a few different vehicles, duramax for hauling, corolla is the work beat junkie, jku is the wife's DD and the kids favorite, chevelle that sits in the garage.

I say keep the JKU and save some lunch $$$ and buy a couple year old crew cab f150 or silverado.

Good luck with whatever you do! It's a hard decision.
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I don't have 3 kids either so that makes things 3 times harder!
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Rick to bad you're not in a position to do more of the work your self. It's a great way to learn more about how your jeep works and save tons of money while building that ultimate machine. If that were the case you know what rig I'd suggest you get...lol because with all the vehicles on your list you'd be paying a premium for a lot of stuff your just going to be throwing away.
I'll send you a link to a rig that is ready for some good wheelin! Super clean and it's for sale.
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Rick to bad you're not in a position to do more of the work your self. It's a great way to learn more about how your jeep works and save tons of money while building that ultimate machine. If that were the case you know what rig I'd suggest you get...lol because with all the vehicles on your list you'd be paying a premium for a lot of stuff your just going to be throwing away.
I'll send you a link to a rig that is ready for some good wheelin! Super clean and it's for sale.
Was that one on Craigslist? I can't see the description in the text.

After mentioning this to my wife, she doesn't think the numbers can crunch and have me end up with a decent Jeep and Truck. She isn't willing to accept a beater truck because it will be our family vehicle. I think it can work, but we'll see.
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Buy a decent shape beater van. Hauls kids and work stuff.
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Buy a decent shape beater van. Hauls kids and work stuff.
I'd be up for that. My wife apparently has much higher standards than me though.

The numbers have to crunch including insurance. My payment for both vehicles would have to be about the same.

I'm looking at a CJ that Steve sent me. Wife probably won't like it even though she'll never ride in it lol.
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Hey Rick. ..this is what I do when I think I might encounter some resistance.
I reach into my pocket and hand her a few hundred bucks and tell her to go shopping.
It works every time bud.
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It doesn't make sense to me to sell the JK, just to buy another used Jeep and you don't know how its been treated. You know what you have in your current Jeep. If you can't afford to tear it up, don't tear it up. There is a hard line here my friend, and I don't feel I need to say it. But being nice about it; Don't mess up your job and your family by being irresponsible.

In answer to your dilemma; keep what you know. If you must have a vehicle to tear up, then, get something else as a family vehicle or a back up vehicle, or DD. The kids won't be that young for too long. You could probably get a cheap Mazda for a few thousand, as a daily driver and back up vehicle. Just tolerate the car seats for a few years, until the kids are out of them.
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I've toyed with the idea myself, selling my JK. I wasn't even supposed to get a JK anyways, it was supposed to be the wife's (which she decided later to get something a little more family friendly) and I was supposed to get an old beat up rig. So I have a JK, which I love, but it's WAY too expensive to maintain and modify. Even doing most of the work myself, too many electronics and moving parts that are price gouged, new things breaking all the time, it's hard to keep up with. So here is was what I decided to do:

Pay it off, sell it, take that money and buy an older DD AND an older rig to wheel.

Why not just maintain what you have for another 2.5 years until you pay it off, then you can sell it then buy both a older DD p/u and a trail rig with cash! No car payments.

I would listen to Steve about choice of rig. An older YJ or CJ is going to be a lot cheaper on your wallet to both modify and maintain. I say 90s YJ cuz it's already fuel injected, but otherwise it's basically a CJ7. Less computers to appease, less moving parts (no need for panhard bars, sway bars, control arms with leaf springs) to worry about, and parts are plentiful and inexpensive. All that money you'd save with no car payments can go straight into building up that rig!

My 2 cents is just to stick it out till it's paid off.
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I am gonna add something here. Your Job and Family have to come first. If that means selling the Jeep and getting a truck then so be it. Your young. You can always buy someones project later. There will always be a project. I'm just saying that nothing is as important as your job and family. If you lose your job due to wheeling then you lose your ability to wheel anyway. Just an old retired guy who gave up lots of projects to feed the tribe.
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Its gotta be hard to make a decision like that. I will add that keep the JKU as a DD and get a YJ. Very easy to modify like stated above, cheaper to insure than a newer rig and it is kind of cool having the oddball Wrangler on the trails. If that does not work out for you, then a late model XJ. It is 4 door, can get with auto trans, power package, very comfortable to drive with room for cargo... And a great candidate for another project when the better half gives you the green light.

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Steve, I read this thread to mike, he doesn't like you talking about handing the wife money, haha! He seems to think I'll get ideas.....he should know I already have them!

Oh, he asked about the CJ info....like he needs another jeep

Rick, I totally understand your situation. Not sure what the solution is, but having a designated trail rig is really nice.
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Get a better paying job with a cool boss that also Jeeps, then you can do whatever you want !!

Maybe a young wife with her own tools !!!!
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Steve, I read this thread to mike, he doesn't like you talking about handing the wife money, haha! He seems to think I'll get ideas.....he should know I already have them!

Oh, he asked about the CJ info....like he needs another jeep

Rick, I totally understand your situation. Not sure what the solution is, but having a designated trail rig is really nice.
All I can say right now is it's for Rick's eyes only...but with that said if you guys knew the info on the Cj you all would be out trying to find a way to be 1st in line for it...and if I may use Rick's own words here....it's a SICK !! rig. I'm hoping you can get it bud.
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Not a cali resident but this thread interests me.


I was in the same boat and bought a Jeep yj for CHEAP! It's a crap shoot but it's a stock YJ with 85k miles, body rust, no top just a bikini, 5spd manual tranny, 4x4 working great. Got it for $900 with a clean title as well. Now I don't have to worry about breaking the TJ DD
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Once you go from mall crawler to rock crawler, a DD is not going to work. Been around for awhile and seen guys buy a jeep and start off Roading and get hooked on the hardcore trails. So you need a trail rig and a DD for work. Soon you will come to the next level (jeep or buggy).
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All I can say right now is it's for Rick's eyes only...but with that said if you guys knew the info on the Cj you all would be out trying to find a way to be 1st in line for it...and if I may use Rick's own words here....it's a SICK !! rig. I'm hoping you can get it bud.
Oh trust me we can't afford a 3rd Jeep, lol. Besides, I just spent any extra mod cash on flooring and cabinetry for the big bear house

I'm keeping fingers crossed things work out for Rick and a solution that makes everyone happy is found!
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Rick I have the same problem I went out and picked up a used DD and my JKU sits in the carport when not being beaten to death on the trails. I'm sticking with the JKU because I tow it behind my motorhome right now and If I get a dedicated jeep I will need a trailer and there's no money in the budget for either of those right now.

So to answer your question; I would think a TJ rubi w/auto would be the best out there; 44s and lockers and your ready to go. I think if your looking at a truck for towing your going to need at least a 3/4 ton. A 3/4 ton wouldn't be a good DD IMHO.

Stick with your JKU, you dumped a lot of money into it. By a used 10k 4 door sedan for the family and your DD; its probably cheaper. Something that gets at least 30mph, they are out there..
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I would sell my tj 05 rubi 6200 miles, but its $$$$$ Its built pretty decent! Depends on your budget! 20 years of wheeling and still no need for a stretch jeep? hummmmmm

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