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Old 08-19-2013, 12:43 AM   #1
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Steering box adjustment - Advise?

So I've had a bit of play in my steering wheel for a while now. The Jeep has no TRE's, as all have been converted to heims. Those are all in good shape and after further inspection I have narrowed it down to the steering box. I've been poking around online reading about adjusting it and I've heard I should adjust in small increments and if I go too far it could severely damage the gears in the box. I'm patient and will take it slow but before I do I thought I'd throw a shout out there to anyone that wants to toss any last minute advise my way.

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Old 08-19-2013, 12:35 PM   #2
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To be honest I've never had much luck eliminating steering box play...usually once it starts it's all down hill from there...you can adjust it and it may feel like its gone at first but it tends to come right back and looser...I'd say give it a shot worse case you pull it and replace it with an up grade....either one from a Dakota or if you need more pitment arm room get one from an Astro van its a reverse keyed box that allows the arm to mount to the front yielding more room for those stretched out Yj's
Both are direct swaps...
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So sort of hijacking- I am also having steering wheel play but on my 2012. When it first started I thought it was my Fox steering stabilizer was out (which it was). But its got 35 PSI now- low, but not empty- and its still not right. Power steering fluid is fine, tie rod is fine, nothing looks out of sorts up front. We'd just lubed everything. What's odd is that its only really noticeable off-road- ie: aired down and in 4WLo. I am turning the steering wheel WAY more than normal. At one point my tires were dead straight, I was in reverse yet my steering wheel was cocked to about 3 o-clock. Small shifts in a trail require major steering wheel turning to turn the tires just a little. I blew a tire this weekend on JB- pretty certain its because my tires were crossed up. Its hard to tell where my tires are at any given moment- gotta fix this. Its a 2012 with less than 15K miles so power steering pump or box just don't seem right. Any thoughts anyone? The hubster is excellent mechanically and can fix about anything- but he's stumped.
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:26 AM   #4
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While in St. George a fellow jeeper had something similar to what you guys are experiencing. a lot of the bolts in his suspension we loose. His initial thought was that of the OP as was mine. We had the local shop go through and tighten/torque all the bolts. Drove right as rain after that. So with that, check your suspension bolts, all of them.
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Thanks for the replies. Everything is tight, heims are in good shape, etc. Basically the steering wheel and shaft move without the pitman arm moving - at least initially - which means it's in the box. If its a temporary fix for me to tighten it I can probably live with that for a while since I rarely drive it. I eventually want to upgrade to a hydro assist set up so I'll try to make it last until then.

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Old 08-21-2013, 11:45 AM   #6
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Doesn't take much. Usually a 1/4 turn. Just go slow and 1/8 turns first. It does help take out the lash. Just did it on my Jk, but most of my trucks have been adjusted too.
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To add to Steves post with the Durango box...this is eventually on my list of mods for Hydro assist.

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Any thoughts on hot power steering fluid doing it? I see in Cons post that a cooler was added. I added a Rubi e-disco on my Sport- it can be a little fickle- especially when you turn the Jeep on and off a lot. So we leaving the Jeep running. Engine temp is always fine so never thought much of it. Wondering if my power steering fluid is getting too hot? Gonna check the box/pitman this weekend.
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Any thoughts on hot power steering fluid doing it? I see in Cons post that a cooler was added. I added a Rubi e-disco on my Sport- it can be a little fickle- especially when you turn the Jeep on and off a lot. So we leaving the Jeep running. Engine temp is always fine so never thought much of it. Wondering if my power steering fluid is getting too hot? Gonna check the box/pitman this weekend.
Jen, That probable is a tricky one. Coolers are definitely a help, but I haven't heard of other JKs having that problem. You may have already tried this, but Jeep Forum has a real good tech section. The link below is in the JK section and search was steering problems.


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So sort of hijacking- I am also having steering wheel play but on my 2012. When it first started I thought it was my Fox steering stabilizer was out (which it was). But its got 35 PSI now- low, but not empty- and its still not right. Power steering fluid is fine, tie rod is fine, nothing looks out of sorts up front. We'd just lubed everything. What's odd is that its only really noticeable off-road- ie: aired down and in 4WLo. I am turning the steering wheel WAY more than normal. At one point my tires were dead straight, I was in reverse yet my steering wheel was cocked to about 3 o-clock. Small shifts in a trail require major steering wheel turning to turn the tires just a little. I blew a tire this weekend on JB- pretty certain its because my tires were crossed up. Its hard to tell where my tires are at any given moment- gotta fix this. Its a 2012 with less than 15K miles so power steering pump or box just don't seem right. Any thoughts anyone? The hubster is excellent mechanically and can fix about anything- but he's stumped.
Hows the tie rod/ draglink, Jen? Any chance either is bent and bowing when pushed hard?
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They're both good; neither is stock. Adrian is usually watching me thru the tough stuff and we haven't seen anything out of sorts in that area.
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Yeah, if u replaced the stock junk, u should have no problems. I know my power steering fluid has been real hot more than a few times (enough to smell it), never had an issue like yours. Weird.

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