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Old 04-05-2011, 09:04 PM   #1
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Stock TJ off roading

I just bought a 2003 Wrangler SE and I'm looking to take it off road pretty soon. Any suggestions for a first timer with a stock jeep. The guy i bought it from had normal street tires on it and I haven't had the money to put the 31" all terrains on it that I want.

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What area of So Cal are you? You can go pretty far with a stock rig. The suggestions I would have for you without seeing a pic of your Jeep is to make sure it has recovery points both front and rear, a good spare tire and at least one friend to go along with you. As for upgrading your tires, see what your stockers will do for you on a couple of runs. If you learn to drive off-road with smaller tires/lift etc it will make you a better driver overall. I have seen completely stock rigs go places that moderatly moderated Jeeps did not make it. A lot of it is the driver, rather than the vehicle. Then when you get the ATs, you will see a noticable difference.

I started with just forest roads and had a blast. Be being on this forum, I met some great people that were willing to help me learn the basics of wheeling.

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Yeah, start out with some of the easy trails; you'll have a great time. Liebre Mountain is a fun trail which has some great views of the mountains north of Santa Clarita/Pyramid Lake as well as views of the Antelope Valley. That one's only a few minutes away from where I live, but there's a lot of them like that. Any trail rated as Easy in the Southern California Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails book would be fun to do, probably some of them are near wherever you live.
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I live in Woodland Hills but spend my weekends in Ventura. I was kinda hoping there was somewhere to go in Ojai. I am thinking about going to Gorman soon. Do they have easy trails there? What are the recovery points you are talking about?
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Recovery points will be hooks or D-ring brackets on your bumpers. Allows for a tow strap to be attached to give a tug in case you get stuck. Usually only takes a small tug to get these little Jeeps going again.

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the front has hooks, and nothing on the back, but it does have a tow hitch. Suggest getting a new bumper with some sort of hook? Thanks for all the help!
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I live in Woodland Hills but spend my weekends in Ventura. I was kinda hoping there was somewhere to go in Ojai. I am thinking about going to Gorman soon. Do they have easy trails there? What are the recovery points you are talking about?
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I live in aurora Ohio and I use Solon's utility trails and I got a stock 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport and I got it through mud and water.
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The tow hitch will work fine. Just get the hitch pin as a point to attach the recovery strap to. That is what I have done for my wife's XJ.

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Do you have a ball on the tow hitch? My Dodge Dakota has been pulled out using the ball on the hitch (by a jeep of course).

Also, sell hooks you can slide into the hitch.

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The tow hitch does have a ball on it so I figure I will be fine with that. I guess my only problem is, none of my friends ever had 4 wheel drive vehicles. I am the first one, and they are all jealous. Of course we have all taken our pick ups and done donuts in the mud after it rains, but I want to get a little more serious about it.
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Also, is a skid plate recommended?
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Suggestions?? Yes!

Like turdhurdler said, go with another jeep friend meaning 2 Jeeps just in case you need a bailout. Also enjoy the stock experience, I am still stock right now and do quite a bit of wheelin/testing/pushing. Practicing stock will get you accustomed to how your Jeep can perform now and I feel, will make you a better off roader in the future. You can also disconnect your front sway bar and add clevis pins with retaining clips and washers to get more articulation.

I am looking forward to the day that I get my OME lift from DPG Offroad and larger tires. I hear the results are fantastic!

Your factory skid "shovel" is good for now.
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Thanks for the help Fireman, unfortunately I do not know what you mean about disconnecting the front sway bar and add clevis pins with retaining clips and washers to get more articulation. I need to make some friends that have jeeps, any one wanna go sometime?
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The tow hitch does have a ball on it so I figure I will be fine with that. I guess my only problem is, none of my friends ever had 4 wheel drive vehicles. I am the first one, and they are all jealous. Of course we have all taken our pick ups and done donuts in the mud after it rains, but I want to get a little more serious about it.
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I heard that you don't want to be pulled out by the ball hitch as they are not rated for that amount of force. better off getting the hitch pin turd is talking about. more secure.
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fossboss, give me a few and I'll see what I can dig up to explain it better.
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fossboss here is the link! http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/home...cts-51982.html

Look at post #5, this is what I did. I allows the wheel to drop further over rocks and dips offroad. Look at my profile pic image #19 and you can see a higher amount of suspension travel in the front wheel (disconnected). After installing these pins "quick discos" you will need to secure your front swaybar using zip ties or wire. Post #26 has a close up. Just be sure to use grade 8 hardware when possible as it will be stronger than grade 5.
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I see what is going on there. That might have to be a little down the road for me though. I have never done any off roading or modifying of any vehicle. Well except sound systems, but I love music and I need it loud. The only things I have ever done to my cars is oil changes and brakes
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That is no problem, only do what you are comfortable with. Stick around here long enough and you will get the hang of it all. This is a VERY useful and informative forum. People around here truly want to help each other.

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I've already noticed how nice everyone is on here it's rad. I've gotten a lot of help so far. Thanks a lot
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I live in aurora Ohio and I use Solon's utility trails and I got a stock 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport and I got it through mud and water.
I used to live in Solon a few years back very near Chagrin Falls I believe.
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I used to live in Solon a few years back very near Chagrin Falls I believe.
Yah there right next to each other. Where u live now? Maybe we can meet up and play on a trail I always go on in solon. Here's a vid of the trail that's recent. . I drop tge fbomb right at the start by mistake. I hit something that turned my aux cable off. Still don't know what I pushed.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:10 AM   #23
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I live in Woodland Hills but spend my weekends in Ventura. I was kinda hoping there was somewhere to go in Ojai. I am thinking about going to Gorman soon. Do they have easy trails there? What are the recovery points you are talking about?
I just bought that exact same jeep. any updates on how things are going?
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Did you ever find a local trail to ride? We have a Rubicon that is equipped nicely enough to do some fun stuff, and have another Rubicon coming down this weekend, so I was trying to find somewhere relatively close (North of LA, near Santa Clarita) that isn't so knarly we need a spotter. We were on a couple of fire roads near Castaic last year adn they were pretty and had some water crossing, but nothing of a challenge. Still a nice drive!
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Gorman is a great place to learn and just get a feel for your rig. The trails are rated and there are some nice little hill climbs to get your feet wet. Feel free to post up runs if you want to go! And congrats!!! Welcome to the addiction.
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Gorman has 4x$ training area as well and it is very nicely done. Plenty of obstacles from mild to wild. Its where my 4 wheelin buds took me for the first time to learn the jeep and just get a sense of its potential.

Best to go with someone that knows wheelin. In fact I think there is a club going up there sometime this month to do just that, train on the obstacles. Don't have access to the link right now but am sure if you google it, it will come up.

Found it but it was last weekend:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f317/...013-a-1495866/
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Getting lots of advice from all of the socal boys... Says this guy is from Oakland... From Oakland, best places to go are Hollister, bout an hour south of San Jose, or about a 3 hour ride up to Clear Lake, couple of good spots up there.
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I just checked his profile, no longer has a jeep and the last time he was on was
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AHHH ZOMBIE POST. Whoops. Should've checked dates before posting.....

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