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Old 09-18-2012, 11:22 AM   #31
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I'd like to check out Johnson Valley since I've never been there, but I'm withholding my vote until we see if we have enough trail leaders available for JV. Last time we couldn't do JV because we had no trail leaders with experience out there. If not JV, I'm kinda leaning towards Last Chance Canyon/Schmidt Tunnel/Goler Gulch.

Honestly I didn't care much for Anza Borrego last time we were there. I don't remember much technical rock crawling challenges.

Calico is always fun, but there's not too much fun out there for newbies and stockers who don't want to do doran/odessa. There was Phillips Loop that we did last time, but that was very short, with only a little bit of moderate rock crawling.

Last Chance Canyon's got a little something for everyone. A good main trail with decent challenges, optional offshoots and tougher lines for those who want them, the infamous v-notch, and service road bypasses for everything. Plus a visit to Schmidt Tunnel, that you can walk through, pretty cool for anyone who's never seen it. Historic Bickel Camp. Then those who've had enough at that point can exit through easy Mesquite Canyon, or those who want more rock crawling can continue through Goler Gulch.

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I'd like to check out Johnson Valley since I've never been there, but I'm withholding my vote until we see if we have enough trail leaders available for JV. Last time we couldn't do JV because we had no trail leaders with experience out there. If not JV, I'm kinda leaning towards Last Chance Canyon/Schmidt Tunnel/Goler Gulch.

Calico is always fun, but there's not too much fun out there for newbies and stockers who don't want to do doran/odessa. There was Phillips Loop that we did last time, but that was very short, with only a little bit of moderate rock crawling.
I haven't been to JV, but seems like from what I've read, that there's no beginner stuff, only difficult. Not much for the stocker/beginner group to do there.

I agree with what you said about Calico. I did the beginner run last time because my wife was riding with me -- It was still fun, but yeah, left me feeling un-satisfied. Might be good for someone that's never been off road before. Anyone who has, would probably prefer something more challenging.

I did vote Anzo Borrego, but only because I haven't been there and going to Last Chance/Nightmare this weekend, so will have more of an opinion of it after this weekend.

Only thing I already don't like about Last Chance/Nightmare is it's FREAKING FAR!! I'm already not liking how much I'm going to spend on gas.


However, you saying it's worth it has gotten me fired up for this weekend!

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I'd like to check out Johnson Valley since I've never been there, but I'm withholding my vote until we see if we have enough trail leaders available for JV. Last time we couldn't do JV because we had no trail leaders with experience out there. If not JV, I'm kinda leaning towards Last Chance Canyon/Schmidt Tunnel/Goler Gulch.

Honestly I didn't care much for Anza Borrego last time we were there. I don't remember much technical rock crawling challenges.

Calico is always fun, but there's not too much fun out there for newbies and stockers who don't want to do doran/odessa. There was Phillips Loop that we did last time, but that was very short, with only a little bit of moderate rock crawling.

Last Chance Canyon's got a little something for everyone. A good main trail with decent challenges, optional offshoots and tougher lines for those who want them, the infamous v-notch, and service road bypasses for everything. Plus a visit to Schmidt Tunnel, that you can walk through, pretty cool for anyone who's never seen it. Historic Bickel Camp. Then those who've had enough at that point can exit through easy Mesquite Canyon, or those who want more rock crawling can continue through Goler Gulch.
These were kind of my feelings...the trip with the group was fun as it always is, but I also didn't feel like there was much of a challenge when it came to the trails (the hardest part was neither the squeeze or heart attack hill, but rather the little step-up/waterfall that we had to climb at some point). Since I have no idea what JV has to offer...I am going to have to agree with the Last Chance area having the most variety of difficulty for drivers/rigs.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:45 PM   #34
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I did vote Anzo Borrego, but only because I haven't been there and going to Last Chance/Nightmare this weekend, so will have more of an opinion of it after this weekend.

Only thing I already don't like about Last Chance/Nightmare is it's FREAKING FAR!! I'm already not liking how much I'm going to spend on gas.

However, you saying it's worth it has gotten me fired up for this weekend!
It's a bit of a drive for me too. A little more than two hours. But that's relatively close for me since there's not much else much closer.

And even if we do end up at Last Chance Canyon next year for this event, you'll still have the opportunity to see some things you probably won't see this weekend. After Last Chance Canyon this weekend, we'll be doing Nightmare Gulch which is another awesome scenic rock crawling trail, one of my "local" favorites, but we won't likely be visiting Schmidt Tunnel since it's a little bit of a drive in the opposite direction of Nightmare Gulch. And Goler Gulch, a pretty fun and scenic trail, is much farther in the opposite direction. Next March, when Nightmare Gulch is closed, would be a good time to go the other direction at the end of Last Chance Canyon, and check out Bickel Camp (historic site), Schmidt Tunnel (mining tunnel fun to walk through) and Goler Gulch (good trail).
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Last Chance Canyon is way too far for us. Doesnt seem worth it for us to drive all the way up through LA on an afternoon . JV would be a really close second to Anza for me.
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I'd like to check out Johnson Valley since I've never been there, but I'm withholding my vote until we see if we have enough trail leaders available for JV. Last time we couldn't do JV because we had no trail leaders with experience out there. If not JV, I'm kinda leaning towards Last Chance Canyon/Schmidt Tunnel/Goler Gulch.

Honestly I didn't care much for Anza Borrego last time we were there. I don't remember much technical rock crawling challenges.

Calico is always fun, but there's not too much fun out there for newbies and stockers who don't want to do doran/odessa. There was Phillips Loop that we did last time, but that was very short, with only a little bit of moderate rock crawling.

Last Chance Canyon's got a little something for everyone. A good main trail with decent challenges, optional offshoots and tougher lines for those who want them, the infamous v-notch, and service road bypasses for everything. Plus a visit to Schmidt Tunnel, that you can walk through, pretty cool for anyone who's never seen it. Historic Bickel Camp. Then those who've had enough at that point can exit through easy Mesquite Canyon, or those who want more rock crawling can continue through Goler Gulch.
These kind of sections are out there, especially in the new Truckhaven Training area. Out there you have to search for trails that offer a challenge, or create a challenge for yourself. If we do Anza, I have a route planned for beginners/moderate that can be fun. Out there it is a lot of sights with one or two hard trails. Once you get into Ocotillo Wells all you have to do is find the technical trails.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:36 PM   #38
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I know Ocotillo Wells really well. There are some really cool geological formations there. Like the Pumpkin Patch, Gas Dome, Shell Reef, Blow Sand Hill, etc. Most the trails are easy for the jeeps to get thru. On the Nothern end, there is a fairly new Jeep Playgound. Some really cool obstacles. I will bet my Pink Slip that no one here can make them all without a winch or a pull.
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I know Ocotillo Wells really well. There are some really cool geological formations there. Like the Pumpkin Patch, Gas Dome, Shell Reef, Blow Sand Hill, etc. Most the trails are easy for the jeeps to get thru. On the Nothern end, there is a fairly new Jeep Playgound. Some really cool obstacles. I will bet my Pink Slip that no one here can make them all without a winch or a pull.
I have made most of them, some of them I wouldn't even try:







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Ever been up to the top of Shell Reef in your Jeep? Or have gone across the entire park from the S22 to 78 (or vise versa). There are some great trails between Shell Reef and Tule Wash near the Pumpkin Patch.
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I voted for JV because this group has been to most other locations at least once if not a couple times. JV may sound daunting to some but there are plenty of easier trails out there that we should go check out. I've done 3-4 trails out there but I have not done any of the easier trails mentioned above that I'd love to try.

Unfortunately I have no idea where those other trails are so it'd take a little research to find then and get them loaded into a GPS. I'll help do that if the group chooses JV.

Otherwise I'm good for any of the others. My second choice after JV would be Calico. I'm done with John Bull for the time being.

P.S. The photos immediately above were taken at the Truckhaven 4x4 Training area which is out by Ocotillo Wells/Superstition Mountain area... where my club Geared 4Fun is sponsoring the 10th Annual Operation Desert Fun October 12/13 in my recent thread at Operation Desert Fun!!! October 12/13 Truckhaven

Be there guys, it's a worthy charitable FUN event that raises $$$ for disabled U.S. military veterans!
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I voted JV also. I was out there last October on Bull frog and had a great time. The Mohave green rattlers were all over the area though.
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I am game to go over to Home Depots Rock section if it will get me out of the house! I should be healed by then... I look forward to it
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anza first vote.

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Ever been up to the top of Shell Reef in your Jeep? Or have gone across the entire park from the S22 to 78 (or vise versa). There are some great trails between Shell Reef and Tule Wash near the Pumpkin Patch.

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Great to hear from you Steve! Hope your feeling better!
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I voted for Anza- because I want to try the Jeep out on that terrain/the Jeep spots. However I may go to Anza in the next month or so. Therfore you can also count me in for any of the trails by the time March comes around....
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Great to hear from you Steve! Hope your feeling better!
Oh man! Thanks! It's amazing to actually be feeling less and less pain day by day, rather then more and more pain. I forgot that's how it's supposed to work! I actually took my first steps without walker, cane, or any other help and I am only like 2 1/2 weeks out of surgery! :-) soo excited!
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Oh man! Thanks! It's amazing to actually be feeling less and less pain day by day, rather then more and more pain. I forgot that's how it's supposed to work! I actually took my first steps without walker, cane, or any other help and I am only like 2 1/2 weeks out of surgery! :-) soo excited!
Sweet, that is wonderful news. Soon you will be doing a marathon.

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I voted JV also. I was out there last October on Bull frog and had a great time. The Mohave green rattlers were all over the area though.
Wow that's an especially dangerous rattler.
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Wow that's an especially dangerous rattler.
Yes they are Jerry, they were not very shy at that meet. Still a great place to wheel and camp.
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i am in for Anza really cool place and destination points!!
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Anza it too far for me unless itís for a long weekend. I have not been to Johnson yet and have wanted to try it out. I would reserve time for Johnson when the King of the Hammers comes back around. My first run in a Jeep was up LCC. I will always have a soft spot for that area out there. There are lots to do and lots of great trials to run including one of my favorite runs up to Randsburg for burger and a beer.
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I went ahead and put in my vote for Last Chance Canyon. I think it's the most accommodating for both beginner/intermediate and advanced groups, and I think those who've never been will enjoy the visit to Schmidt Tunnel, and maybe historic Bickel Camp. Then some (maybe the advanced group) might want to continue on through Goler Gulch for more wheeling. And I know there are several regulars here able to lead the way for a few separate groups.
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My favorite place for a cold one, can't pass it up when I'm passing thru!
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Joining the thread...We are in for whatever...Anza or JV...but again, whatever ;-)

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