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Old 05-09-2013, 10:49 AM   #91
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Will be updating info hopefully today.

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We are a couple of months out still, but these events seem to get bigger and bigger each time. I would like to take this time to see if anyone is willing to volunteer to be trail leaders for some of the runs. If the trend continues, I would like to keep the group size to a max of 15 rigs for the advanced trails and no more than 20 for the moderate trail or trails depending on how many members we have. Thank you in advance for your time and effort.

Also, we have done a big pot luck dinner on Saturday nights and also gone the route of fending for ourselves. The pot lucks are fun and a great way to mingle and meet fellow members, but take a bit more planning on the part of everyone involved. I don't mind the extra little bit of work; actually I loved the pot lucks we have had as we can all bring a little and serve a lot. So, any feedback on this issue is of course appreciated and I look forward to your responses.

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We are a couple of months out still, but these events seem to get bigger and bigger each time. I would like to take this time to see if anyone is willing to volunteer to be trail leaders for some of the runs. If the trend continues, I would like to keep the group size to a max of 15 rigs for the advanced trails and no more than 20 for the moderate trail or trails depending on how many members we have. Thank you in advance for your time and effort.

Also, we have done a big pot luck dinner on Saturday nights and also gone the route of fending for ourselves. The pot lucks are fun and a great way to mingle and meet fellow members, but take a bit more planning on the part of everyone involved. I don't mind the extra little bit of work; actually I loved the pot lucks we have had as we can all bring a little and serve a lot. So, any feedback on this issue is of course appreciated and I look forward to your responses.

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Turd I would like to lead a trail on both John Bull and Holcomb if it can happen. I would have to cap the group at 10 Jeeps though.
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We are a couple of months out still, but these events seem to get bigger and bigger each time. I would like to take this time to see if anyone is willing to volunteer to be trail leaders for some of the runs. If the trend continues, I would like to keep the group size to a max of 15 rigs for the advanced trails and no more than 20 for the moderate trail or trails depending on how many members we have. Thank you in advance for your time and effort.

Also, we have done a big pot luck dinner on Saturday nights and also gone the route of fending for ourselves. The pot lucks are fun and a great way to mingle and meet fellow members, but take a bit more planning on the part of everyone involved. I don't mind the extra little bit of work; actually I loved the pot lucks we have had as we can all bring a little and serve a lot. So, any feedback on this issue is of course appreciated and I look forward to your responses.

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Jeff, I would be glad to help out on any of the Black diamond trails...
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Turd add me to the list. Would like an advanced run
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Hey Jeff. I can bring some food. I'll look into what I can make on site. I'll also give to the coffee bar again. Kota I would love to do JB and HC again, I'll follow you or do tail gunner.
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I'd volunteer to lead another run but John Bull is now covered & that is the only one in Big Bear I can reliably find/get back from without much chance of making a wrong turn here or there. It has been years since I did any other trails up there beside JB. I remember Pontiac Sleuce was fun, but most of the other trails are pretty easy. With a GPS & trail map, I'd be willing to lead a group of adventurous souls if I have enough time to research the trails desired.

Are there any particular trails of interest that I can start researching? Personally, I'm a little tired of JB so the thought of doing other trails is especially inviting to me.
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Jerry we just did Pontiac and Heartbreak last week. It was a fun trail and everyone made it. Still had some difficulty to it, just enough to be fun. Rhonda made it on 31's, no lift and open/open. 32 rigs and 6 hours.
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For difficult runs there is always White Mountain. That trail always seems to get left out of the fun. I don't think anyone picked up Dishpan yet either. Both of those are fairly easy to find.
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For difficult runs there is always White Mountain. That trail always seems to get left out of the fun. I don't think anyone picked up Dishpan yet either. Both of those are fairly easy to find.
We did White Mtn to Gold Mtn a couple of years ago for the mod ate group. From what I remember, it was rather a short run with only one actual difficult section of a climb up a very rocky section. Gave a couple of tugs, haha.

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Oh, and attending list updated in first post. Let me know if I left anyone off the list.

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We are a couple of months out still, but these events seem to get bigger and bigger each time. I would like to take this time to see if anyone is willing to volunteer to be trail leaders for some of the runs. If the trend continues, I would like to keep the group size to a max of 15 rigs for the advanced trails and no more than 20 for the moderate trail or trails depending on how many members we have. Thank you in advance for your time and effort.

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Hey Jeff...
Depending on the final out come on the dates for this one....I'd be more than happy to lead a run to Matino wash or any of the advanced trails on the mtn...I'm very familiar with all the trails up there and would be happy to help out in any way...
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Cant go wrong with the trifecta of John Bull, Holcomb Creek, and Dishpan Springs. That should cover 45 rigs. Then you can throw in Gold Mountain/Little John Bull and Onyx Summit (Heartbreak/Pontiac), for the moderate groups, and you have up to 80 rigs covered. Stockers who don't want to get banged up can even stick to running 3N16 which can buffer your numbers on the moderate groups.
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I'd volunteer to lead another run but John Bull is now covered & that is the only one in Big Bear I can reliably find/get back from without much chance of making a wrong turn here or there. It has been years since I did any other trails up there beside JB. I remember Pontiac Sleuce was fun, but most of the other trails are pretty easy. With a GPS & trail map, I'd be willing to lead a group of adventurous souls if I have enough time to research the trails desired.

Are there any particular trails of interest that I can start researching? Personally, I'm a little tired of JB so the thought of doing other trails is especially inviting to me.
Hey Jerry, If Dakota and I cap the JB/HC run to 10, I am sure that there would be enough interest to do a second JB run. We could stagger them by 30 minutes or so. That is if you want to lead a run.

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We did White Mtn to Gold Mtn a couple of years ago for the mod ate group. From what I remember, it was rather a short run with only one actual difficult section of a climb up a very rocky section. Gave a couple of tugs, haha.

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Hey Jeff..
when you guys ran White Mtn do you remember if you guys ran the two offshoot trails...3N17D and 3N11A or just stuck to 3N17...White Mtn? Both of those offshoot trails are a blast!
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Hey Jeff..
when you guys ran White Mtn do you remember if you guys ran the two offshoot trails...3N17D and 3N11A or just stuck to 3N17...White Mtn? Both of those offshoot trails are a blast!
Not sure of the trail designations, but I believe we did Three Wheel Hill as a group, and another member did the Suicide Hill side of the trail.

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If I end up camping up there I'm considering a group site for this. They can fit 8 rigs, so if 7 of y'all wanted to go in with me it would be like $10 per rig per night ... cheaper than an individual campsite ... they still have vault toilets and whatnots. Let me know...

It depends on the dates we do this though ... all the group campsites are reserved the weekend of July 26th
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If I end up camping up there I'm considering a group site for this. They can fit 8 rigs, so if 7 of y'all wanted to go in with me it would be like $10 per rig per night ... cheaper than an individual campsite ... and most still have vault toilets and whatnots. Let me know...
I have to ask for permission but if i can ill be in that deal
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It depends on the weekend that we do it though ... I just looked and all the group sites are taken the last weekend of July ... the first weekend of August all are available except Tanglewood.

I was thinking about Ironwood since its still close to Hanna Flats but only 5 can go in on that ... but even still that's less than $20 a night per person.

Juniper Springs would be good... but it's a little far away.
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If you are planning on doing both JB and Holcomb with us there needs to be a minimum of 33s and a rear locker. I want to limit this group to make sure we have enough time to get to both trails. I need drivers that can keep moving and spotters that are willing to help quickly. I have done Holcomb in 1:45 (hours:min) with two jeeps and 5:00 with 12 Jeeps. Also I have only done JB once and it took 2:30 for two Jeeps. I tried this last year and ran out of time to do JB in one day. We will start at the Gatekeeper of John Bull and head West on JB. Once we reach 3N16 we will Jump back over to Holcomb and start from the west side and end down by the gatekeeper of Holcomb on the East side. We will then return to Hanna Flats (or whatever campground we choose). It will be a fun, and long day.

Gunner: I could definitely use your help on the trail. We will figure out the details later when we get closer to the date.
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Just a heads up We did Gold Mountain, John Bull and Holcomb all in about 7 hours with 4 jeeps Maybe a month ago and that included lunch. John Bull did not seem as tough as I have seen it in earlier videos.
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Just a heads up We did Gold Mountain, John Bull and Holcomb all in about 7 hours with 4 jeeps Maybe a month ago and that included lunch. John Bull did not seem as tough as I have seen it in earlier videos.
I haven't been on JB for awhile. But I do know that Holcomb can take some time. If we end up with some time left after Holcomb we can turn around and go down the trail at the half way point of Holcomb and run the first half backwards back to 3N14.
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Hey Jeff...
Depending on the final out come on the dates for this one....I'd be more than happy to lead a run to Matino wash or any of the advanced trails on the mtn...I'm very familiar with all the trails up there and would be happy to help out in any way...
Ive heard some good stuff about this! Where abouts is this in relation to big bear/the lake?
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Ive heard some good stuff about this! Where abouts is this in relation to big bear/the lake?
That's the problem with Mottino...Its a very cool trail, but its a ways from Hanna.

Hanna is off the north West corner of the lake and Mottino is down off 38 (south east of the lake) and from the road its quite a ways to the trail head. My quess is it would take a good hour to get to the trail head from Hanna flats...If you want a map picture I can post one.
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Ive heard some good stuff about this! Where abouts is this in relation to big bear/the lake?

It's a little ways out there but doable in a day trip ... it's on the other side of heartbreak and big horn wilderness ... you take broom flat to get out there from BB ... so maybe an hour to get to motino ...

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