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Old 02-19-2013, 03:35 PM   #991
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I think lockers should be optional. I don't see why people put a requirement to have them.
Once you get yours you'll see how much easier it is to drive over things. No use in just beating up a sweet jeep because you only have 2 wheels driving. Admittedly some guys are great drivers and can go places without lockers that I would not even begin to try.

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Dan I have a Skidrow engine plate on mine and it lets me slip right over things that the shovel would usually hang up on.
Sweet! Nice and flat! Did you need a BL or SYE to install?

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Nope it's a bolt on. The PO had it installed but I looked it up. Not very expensive either.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:42 PM   #994
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Once you get yours you'll see how much easier it is to drive over things. No use in just beating up a sweet jeep because you only have 2 wheels driving. Admittedly some guys are great drivers and can go places without lockers that I would not even begin to try.
Completely agree! I won't wheel a black diamond without them. Too many weak parts on a stock jeep. Locking keeps me moving slow and steady, which gives me the lowest possibly of busting parts! Once you have them, you'll be hooked!
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:47 PM   #995
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Nope it's a bolt on. The PO had it installed but I looked it up. Not very expensive either.
What year is your rig? If its a straight bolt on, I'm down to order one TODAY! I have been avoiding the TT because so many kits require SYE (which I won't need due to Rubicon or Unlimited (don't remember which)), new drive shaft, BL, relocation brackets...the list can grow quickly. BLEH!!! One thing I am certain I will need is adjustable UCAs to reset my pinion angle.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:48 PM   #996
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I'm going to start prepping my Jeep to do the Dusy in Aug. Anyone here done the Dusy Ershim?
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I'll find the link.
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What year is your rig? If its a straight bolt on, I'm down to order one TODAY! I have been avoiding the TT because so many kits require SYE (which I won't need due to Rubicon or Unlimited (don't remember which)), new drive shaft, BL, relocation brackets...the list can grow quickly. BLEH!!! One thing I am certain I will need is adjustable UCAs to reset my pinion angle.

Ok, you have an 04, and I'm in an 05. Basically no difference other than length. (checked your profile). I am going to call and talk with them. There will be a difference because I have a manual trans as well.

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I'm going to start prepping my Jeep to do the Dusy in Aug. Anyone here done the Dusy Ershim?
Whats that?
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:14 PM   #1001
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It's a trail IN NorCal. Suppose to be a hard one.

You guys gotta see this Rubicon from Canada.
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It's a trail IN NorCal. Suppose to be a hard one.

You guys gotta see this Rubicon from Canada.
That's blasphemy
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I never said they weren't helpful, I've driven a Humvee locked out and once you know how to activate them they're nice.... But! Why do we have to put a NEED for them on some runs?
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I think lockers should be optional. I don't see why people put a requirement to have them.
It about over population. I remember getting stuck on a obstacle and spend hours getting over it. But now if you stuck you cause a traffic jam. It's also American commercialism. Most trails have sponsors and those sponsors want to sell stuff so they make it a required accessory. To me no one really needs lockers. It's harder on the engine because you have to drive over the brakes that is used to equalize resistance to the wheels
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It about over population. I remember getting stuck on a obstacle and spend hours getting over it. But now if you stuck you cause a traffic jam. It's also American commercialism. Most trails have sponsors and those sponsors want to sell stuff so they make it a required accessory. To me no one really needs lockers. It's harder on the engine because you have to drive over the brakes that is used to equalize resistance to the wheels
Sorry that didn't read right. What I meant that it is harder on the engine without lockers because of the need to apply the brakes to equalize the resistance on the wheels
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I understood what you meant. Those brake equalization systems are hokey jokey. Give me a real locker. A Detroit, ARB, or Rubicon. They lock the axles up and both wheels turn. No drag on anything but the rocks.
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I understood what you meant. Those brake equalization systems are hokey jokey. Give me a real locker. A Detroit, ARB, or Rubicon. They lock the axles up and both wheels turn. No drag on anything but the rocks.
And ausie i live my ausie
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Yup them to. You'll really love it when we fix your carb.
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Old 02-19-2013, 05:12 PM   #1009
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I understood what you meant. Those brake equalization systems are hokey jokey. Give me a real locker. A Detroit, ARB, or Rubicon. They lock the axles up and both wheels turn. No drag on anything but the rocks.
Yep my right foot is a real joker. Especially when I'm heel toeing the gas and brake. I can barely keep one foot in front of the other.
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I have found that the rating varies depending on the park/area the trail is located. For example: a black diamond trail at SNBF will likely be a little more difficult than a black diamond at Coral Canyon. Not to mention that our trails change almost daily! I ran John Bull a few months ago (two groups behind the infamous hummer blockade) and our group lead said he hadn't seen the second group of rocks that rutted or difficult in several years, but we breezed up "gatekeeper" without a hitch. Generally: green is easily, blue is moderate, black is difficult, and double black....yea, expect body damage unless your double locked on a minimum of 37s. Even then...don't be shocked to suffer some damage.

I am with Gunner. I have an 05 LJ Rubicon. 3.5" lift on 33s. Stock drivetrain. No tummy tuck (weakest part of my rig!) I approach black diamonds with a small bit of caution, but mostly ready to have fun! If I get stuck and need a tug, it has always been due to the shovel! (Stock belly pan). Hope this helps.

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Thank you it did help
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It goes circle, square, diamond. And the ratings are different for vehicles on the same trail. That goes motorcycle, atv( quads , utv,) and 4x4 short wheel base and long wheel base. Some uhv areas have sand rail ratings.
Now back to just jeeps. Easy jeep rating is nothing more than a dusty trail. Moderate is a fire road with some rutts maybe a rock or too. Hard is considered any trail that will get one wheel off the ground of a stock vehicle with exception like sand. Sand is considered hard for jeeps. These are just rule of thumb. Each level of difficulty is really up to the skill of the driver and vehicle capability.
Thank you all this information helps.
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do they have one for a jk 2007
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do they have one for a jk 2007
Anybody doing anything this weekend besides watch the gas price go up?
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Anybody doing anything this weekend besides watch the gas price go up?
I'm done doing anything until I get a job.
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Birthday tomorrow ! Off for the week . The Wife and I were wanting to hit a trail or two .
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Working as a repair plumber, I have to disagree with women being more refined. Thier restrooms have damage more often and generally are messier. Also, women don't seem to mind the big out of service, service tech inside sign. They barge right in and let loose with all their might, making a seasoned guy like me run for cover!

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Anybody doing anything this weekend besides watch the gas price go up?
Stare at my jeep and wish gas prices were cheaper
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Birthday tomorrow ! Off for the week . The Wife and I were wanting to hit a trail or two .
Happy birthday you lucky son of a lovely lady.
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Stare at my jeep and wish gas prices were cheaper
Me too. I think I'm going to start drilling in my back yard for oil and refine it myself. Barreled oil is going down yet gas is going up.

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