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Old 09-16-2013, 11:37 AM   #10981
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No I'm not that worried. I have an auto and I am slowing down in the rocks as I learn how to wheel better. I am just an old hot rodder and like to modify my stuff. Some of it I am buying just because I like the look of it over a less expensive item.

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Old 09-16-2013, 11:41 AM   #10982
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I'm trying to build the strongest I can with the money I have at hand. I looked into the Dynatrac's and a front 60 would have cost me 6K. I'm not likely to beat on it hard but I will wheel it. My jeep was too expensive when i had a perfectly good TJ I was driving. But I am planning on 37's later which is why I am getting it tubed and welded C's. They are expensive but they are the best I could buy.
That maybe came off a bit harsh. I'm just having fun, and buying what catches my fancy.

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Old 09-16-2013, 11:58 AM   #10983
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Irwindale is only a 1/8 mile track. It was a 6 second 100 mph runner there. I could beat most of the 1000's if they were stock and not a great rider. So I would say it was a 10 second bike. Not bad for an 850 pound V twin bike with a 300 pound load. Most of the time it just spun sideways or pulled the front tire too high. Actually was pretty solid off the juice.Was a good 7.5 bike that way.
That's pretty respectable for what it is. Irwindale is the only place I did not run... I really didn't care for the 1/8th mile and the muffler rule, and that turn at the end. Most drag cars handle like an overloaded short school bus traveling at supersonic speed! Turns at speed are not a good plan.
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:14 PM   #10984
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Sometimes when I got in a good run you just go past the turn and follow the back straight to the pits for the circle track. That gave even a solid 5 second car plenty of room to slow down. They had some 4.9 cars running there.
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:37 PM   #10985
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Sometimes when I got in a good run you just go past the turn and follow the back straight to the pits for the circle track. That gave even a solid 5 second car plenty of room to slow down. They had some 4.9 cars running there.
Had to be better than Carlsbad.... If you ever went there I'm sure you know what I mean. . That wall at the end would come up quick, and don't miss the turn out.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:12 PM   #10986
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No I'm not that worried. I have an auto and I am slowing down in the rocks as I learn how to wheel better. I am just an old hot rodder and like to modify my stuff. Some of it I am buying just because I like the look of it over a less expensive item.
Thatís fine. Iím just trying to figure out this fascination with people running taller gears. It seems people are sticking with taller gears because the gears are thicker (thus stronger) than going with a gear that will improve performance. I agree a 4.10 gear is thicker (stronger) than a 5.38 gear. But if nobody is breaking a 5.38 gear, who cares???
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:24 PM   #10987
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Thatís fine. Iím just trying to figure out this fascination with people running taller gears. It seems people are sticking with taller gears because the gears are thicker (thus stronger) than going with a gear that will improve performance. I agree a 4.10 gear is thicker (stronger) than a 5.38 gear. But if nobody is breaking a 5.38 gear, who cares???
Exactly..!!
If you're running to high of a gear out on the rocks your gonna need the strongest R&P you can get because you'll be beating on it so darn heard...
I've ran 538s in d44s for years and have never had a problem... now I'm beating on 589s with no issues.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:39 PM   #10988
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That’s fine. I’m just trying to figure out this fascination with people running taller gears. It seems people are sticking with taller gears because the gears are thicker (thus stronger) than going with a gear that will improve performance. I agree a 4.10 gear is thicker (stronger) than a 5.38 gear. But if nobody is breaking a 5.38 gear, who cares???
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:03 PM   #10989
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I just finished a gear change, I went from 4.56 to 5.13's.... And put in ARB. I am not worried about breaking the gear sets... HP44,in front and Ford 9 inch in rear. I just put the third member in last night and have not even had a chance to drive it yet... So I can't really say... Anything else yet...
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:34 PM   #10990
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This is gonna be my last build and i want to have some fun.

This is why I am doing a lot of this. I always had to work on customers cars. My stuff came second. I am 65 and in bad health. I want to enjoy this build. Even if it does not make sense to others it does to me. I know it's just being silly but in some ways it is going to be goodbye to some old friends, in others it is just a "hey I always wanted to do that to my stuff" I'm just enjoying my retirement and spending my savings before the kids get to fight over the slim pickins that are gonna be left.
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This is gonna be my last build and i want to have some fun.
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:46 PM   #10993
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I know, I know. But my wife might just kill me first if it's not.
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:50 PM   #10994
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I know, I know. But my wife might just kill me first if it's not.
I don't think she would kill you, but she might hurt you real bad!
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Old 09-16-2013, 03:51 PM   #10995
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Its your jeep....build it how you want. The important part is that you get out and have fun in it.
The clock isn't moving any slower for any of us...lol
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Old 09-16-2013, 04:42 PM   #10996
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This is gonna be my last build and i want to have some fun.

This is why I am doing a lot of this. I always had to work on customers cars. My stuff came second. I am 65 and in bad health. I want to enjoy this build. Even if it does not make sense to others it does to me. I know it's just being silly but in some ways it is going to be goodbye to some old friends, in others it is just a "hey I always wanted to do that to my stuff" I'm just enjoying my retirement and spending my savings before the kids get to fight over the slim pickins that are gonna be left.
Wasn't trying to bash on your build. I agree with Steve, build it how ever makes you happy. I was just trying to understand this gear fear. I know my build has things that other don't agree with or understand it would not be any fun if everyone had the exact build...
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:03 PM   #10997
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Not fear, more like gear envy. I got to play with some pretty exotic stuff and just am having a hard time letting it got. I know I'll most likely just have Stan put in whatever he's selling and go from there. But I sure have a killer jeep built in my head.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:06 PM   #10998
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Its your jeep....build it how you want. The important part is that you get out and have fun in it.
The clock isn't moving any slower for any of us...lol
I'll see what the doc says next month. Got some Agent Orange issues picking up the pace a bit. Running out of breath pretty easily right now. But I can sit and drive for hours. Loving the new smileys
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I just think being able to say "my rig has gears that were heat treated by a facility that treats F1 cars" is worth the money by itself!

I gonna try to make some metal fender liners like the Metalcloaks but using perforated metal instead of a solid sheet. Me thinks it will keep the engine cooler with more airflow and still keep the big chunks of crud out. The bad thing is I'm gonna have to do this by hand cuz I have no fab tools. Any advice on the matter?
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:47 PM   #11000
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Gunner, It's your jeep so build it to thrill you. I know you guys won't understand my expedition build as most of you are rock crawlers but we'll all be happy with our jeeps and having fun.
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Actually ... I'd like to hear more about your expedition setup ... I'm starting to lean more that way myself
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Hey G campin..!
It was nice meeting you and thanks again for the care package...
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:31 PM   #11004
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It was nice meeting you and thanks again for the care package...
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You are very welcome. I'm glad you gave them a home where they will be used. Enjoy them.
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They well be put to good use that's for sure....nice Yj you have too!
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Actually ... I'd like to hear more about your expedition setup ... I'm starting to lean more that way myself
I've always found happy wondering around the desert. I've been doing it for years in suburbans and trucks so I can haul my junk and sleep off the ground.

Doing it in a jeep would get me into more secluded places. I was pondering a JKU but decided to follow my heart and find an LJ. I can build a removable platform in the back to sleep on and store stuff underneath. I can also use it to haul wife and dogs with the platform out for our little one day adventures.

figure an anti slip axle, winch and a wider tire to float in the sand and I will be doing fine. Carry a couple of gas cans on the rear behind the tire or side mount them up front or even both and I'll have plenty of range to play my favorite game. "Here to there without using paved roads." Power line roads, dirt roads or cross country where legal.

Usual load out is. Bedding, personal hygiene stuff, clean under britches, one or two ice chests. (Two in summer one is for beer/water) chair, recovery equipment, coleman stove, food, water and usually a gun or two and ammo so I can stop and plink along the way.

Jeeeez, that was a windy answer...
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They well be put to good use that's for sure....nice Yj you have too!
Thank you but it's going up for sale. Gotta get a LJ.
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Jeeeez, that was a windy answer...
LOL... I've recently had a change of heart as to the direction I want to take my Jeep. I want to set it up for expedition too. I'm going small lift with good skids... I'm happy with my 33s ... winch, roof rack, orfab tire/jerrycan carrier, and a good trailer. I've made my peace with my D30, but I am going to strengthen it and add a locker. Probably LSD the rear D44. All in time though...unless I win the lotto.
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Skids. Damn I forgot about those and I forgot to mention I'd do a 2 in lift.

I thought about a trailer or RTT but we already have a travel trailer so that expense might be a bit tough to get past the Admiral.
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Yeah I have to go with a trailer since I only have a 2dr ... I'm aiming to get a small military trailer (M416 like) ... or at least a small trailer with a pintle instead of a ballhitch ...

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