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Old 09-25-2013, 06:08 PM   #11281
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Different Trans have different ways of getting hot. Some are inclined to get hot on the trail and some on the hwy and we all know that excessive heat can cause faster wear or worse....We get some hot temps in the IE and Mine is set to come on at 180. It comes on while wheeling and sometimes on the street so I'm glad I have it. Like both Steve and Dan, I put mine in before knowing if I needed it, so maybe if I did it over again I would put the gauge in first
Yeah...I did purdy much the same setup as you...but I think if I were to do it over again I would've just ran it through the radiator...I have a huge aluminium radiator..2 core...and I run the Flex-o-lite electric fan with full shroud....can you tell I wheel the desert year around...lol
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:19 PM   #11282
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I just bought a Bully Dog. I'll let you know what the stock trans runs on the freeway and in the rocks. My guess is 210 just like the radiator does. But I will be able to track the water temp too. Without a gage your just guessing.

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Old 09-25-2013, 06:38 PM   #11283
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I just bought a Bully Dog. I'll let you know what the stock trans runs on the freeway and in the rocks. My guess is 210 just like the radiator does. But I will be able to track the water temp too. Without a gage your just guessing.
I have a gauge in mine...and a thermostat that kicks on a 2300cfm fan @ 180° & shuts off @170° that is in full shroud mounted to the trans cooler…
I have the gauge setup so it can read both the out and return lines at a flick of a switch...
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Yeah...I did purdy much the same setup as you...but I think if I were to do it over again I would've just ran it through the radiator...I have a huge aluminium radiator..2 core...and I run the Flex-o-lite electric fan with full shroud....can you tell I wheel the desert year around...lol
But the setup I have works bitchin for me so no worries.
Yeah, you see some heat down there....when I had the auto installed, I switched to an auto radiator so the lines would run through it. Mine is mounted under the tub in back so the lines are long and a bit costly...
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I had a customer who called himself Overkill Bill. He always said I want the best you can come up with. I just don't wanna break things. Great guy. He spent a ton of money doing that, but he always crossed the finish line. You have a Overkill Bill trans cooler setup. It might be more than you need, but it will never be less than you need. Big difference.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:11 PM   #11286
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Yeah, you see some heat down there....when I had the auto installed, I switched to an auto radiator so the lines would run through it. Mine is mounted under the tub in back so the lines are long and a bit costly...
Mines under the tub also...way out back by the g tank under the back seat and yes it was expensive for the hydraulic line...
I put the sending units at the trans on both the in and out lines so I could see what it is coming out and to see how well the cooler was cooling it before it went back in....I wanted to put the line out sending unit in the pan but it wouldn't fit after I made a new exhaust header tube to tuck up nicely between the trans pan and the bell housing ...
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What is the in and out difference on a hot day?
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:44 PM   #11288
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What is the in and out difference on a hot day?
That ones hard to answer... but if say the trans is at 190° at the out line on the trans...it'll be 170° going back in....
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:05 AM   #11289
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Did you get any before temps? I was Wondering what is it running now?
No, but I like Doug read how hot the trans gets in the rocks. It made sence to me that working the trans in the rocks with almost no airflow will mean HOT trans temps. Now that I have the guage, I can see (with my setup) that was BS. The fact is my trans runs cool on the trails (around 170). My fan does not kick on. But at highway speeds and going up the MTN my fan does come on and trans runs around 180 - 190. On a really hot day going up the MTN, trans got to 210.
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Well I will have some hard before numbers soon. Then I'll decide if I really need one. But I am thinking I want the oil out of my radiator in case it ever leaks. Coolant in the trans sucks big time. Might just be me cause I saw so many of them leak and cause big bills for the owners. I was a Engine builder for almost 45 years. Saw too much damage and now I don't want any problems out in the desert. I'm sure I am being over kill but I want to be as safe as I can make it and still have fun.
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pfft ... California's gov't kills me.

Went to register the Jeep in California today, and they are trying to charge me sales tax on a vehicle I bought over 2 years ago. Lame.
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Old 09-26-2013, 03:05 PM   #11292
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Don't EVEN get me started with how messed up this state is! I'm in a good mood and don't want to mess it up!
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pfft ... California's gov't kills me.

Went to register the Jeep in California today, and they are trying to charge me sales tax on a vehicle I bought over 2 years ago. Lame.
That's why I have west Virginia tags!
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You watch they will figure out a way to tax the stink in a baby diaper someday.
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:51 PM   #11295
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You watch they will figure out a way to tax the stink in a baby diaper someday.

Did you ever listen to the words to that Beatles song "Tax Man?" - if you want to walk, he'll tax your feet, etc.!
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lmao ... I'm exempt, but I just think it's insane that it is even legal to tax something bought in a different state more than two years ago.
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lmao ... I'm exempt, but I just think it's insane that it is even legal to tax something bought in a different state more than two years ago.
We get taxed on the estimated resale value of our vehicles every year. That is the VLF or vehicle licensing fee.

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We get taxed on the estimated resale value of our vehicles every year. That is the VLF or vehicle licensing fee.

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Not the VLF, this is Sales & Use tax. I bought my Jeep in NY where they only charged 7% sales tax. California charges you the difference between CA sales tax and what you paid in the state that you bought it, if you bring it into CA within a year of purchase. In my case CA is charging me nearly $500. Should be exempt but I have to petition the CA Board of Equalization to get that exemption. Till then I'm rocking the temporary plates.
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Not the VLF, this is sales & use tax that they were after. I bought my Jeep in NY where they only charged 7% sales tax. California charges you the difference between CA sales tax and what you paid in the state that you bought it, if you bring it into CA within a year of purchase. In my case CA is charging me nearly $500.

Dont register it in Cali i never bother with out of state plates
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Dont register it in Cali i never bother with out of state plates
I'm not next time. I have to get my Texas Driver's License back, then I can register in Texas next time. Right now I have a Arizona License, but Arizona charges an even higher VLF than California. Also California will give me exemptions, where Arizona will not. Should have never got rid of my Texas license. It's around $60 a year to register period, no matter what you drive.
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Apparently Mikes found a great place to go wheeling, not so great for deer hunting though He only saw 5 Does today and the F350 doesn't crawl over the terrrain like the Jeep or quad would.

Hopefully the next couple days bring some cooler weather in the higher elevations and pushes something down.
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Sounds like a trip to Stans for a gun mount on the TJ's roll cage is in order.
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Apparently Mikes found a great place to go wheeling, not so great for deer hunting though He only saw 5 Does today and the F350 doesn't crawl over the terrrain like the Jeep or quad would. Hopefully the next couple days bring some cooler weather in the higher elevations and pushes something down.
Does Mike use a blind or track?
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Sounds like a trip to Stans for a gun mount on the TJ's roll cage is in order.
Ya, that's an idea. I thought he was taking the truck and towing the TJ, then he told me right before he left he was towing his camp trailer. I'm not sure why he changed his mind, but that truck has gone all over the mountains in Montana and it's always gotten him home.

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Tracks. My dad actually put him in touch with a friend that lives up there last night, so hopefully he can give Mike some ideas of where to go. It's an area he hasn't hunted before so he sort of flying blind.
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Going to big bear in the morning doing Pontiac and heart break
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Anybody wheelin this weekend?
Its gonna be another wonderful day here in the hi desert....so I'm gonna go over to Stoddard Wells this afternoon and run Empire Strikes Back and possibly Broken Arrow....a couple of really great trails with some good rocks..
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Hey Steve... how are those in regards to Pumpkin Eater and Achy Breaky?
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They're all purdy much in line with each other...just on different parts of the mtns.
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