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Old 10-30-2013, 05:40 PM   #11881
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I don't know but my gears are turning and grinding.

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Old 10-30-2013, 06:00 PM   #11882
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That's a lot of big word to say when one spiny thing is driving another spiny thing if the one being driven turns less it must be amplified in force. But the energy not transferred is it not just converted to heat and dissipated into the atmosphere. I'm not doubting you I'm just learning here and why would my spiny theory be wrong?
The work produced does create heat and so does the slippage. It is not a perfect transmission of power. Yes there are losses and it gets hot. But it works really well and with internal lockup clutches you lose most all the slippage on the freeway. But yeah your spiny analogy is pretty much right on.

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Old 10-30-2013, 07:18 PM   #11883
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Speaking of engine and trans swaps...

Has anyone figured out how to slip one of the new V6 diesels and 8 speed trannys into a Wrangler?
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:44 PM   #11884
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Speaking of engine and trans swaps...

Has anyone figured out how to slip one of the new V6 diesels and 8 speed trannys into a Wrangler?
No but I've done a turbocharged 5 cylinder diesel from an older Benz a few times....kicks Azz!
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I imagine that if that combo will give a Grand Cherokee 30mpg. That combo ought to give a Wrangler a bunch more.

How was the MPG on the MB five banger?
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:54 PM   #11886
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Speaking of engine and trans swaps...

Has anyone figured out how to slip one of the new V6 diesels and 8 speed trannys into a Wrangler?
V6 dunno ... although the 4BT slides into a wrangler fairly nice.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:10 PM   #11887
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You split the jeep in half and you attach one spiny thing to the other spiny thing.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:57 PM   #11888
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In a Cj & Yj...both SOA and on 35s...one with a stick and the other with an auto...
Both did low to mid 30s city and upper 30s hwy but the torque from this motors was fantastic!!
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:01 PM   #11889
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Put one in a 87 Toyota 4 Runner ...that was a tight fit....but we got it in there...
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:11 PM   #11890
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I grew up in the Philippines. My dad owned a ship yard there. If you ever want to see masters of frenkenstien vehicles look no farther. Those guys mix and match more than a Barbie playhouse.
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Old 10-30-2013, 09:15 PM   #11891
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One thing I'm going to do before I do the build on my jeep. I'm going to start at a low diamond trail and just run that thing till she gives. Going up in trail ratings as I complete them. I'm just going to add sliders to protect the body.
I'm going to see what a stock jeep can do.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:35 AM   #11892
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You will sure be surprised. Since your hardly a newby you ought to get pretty far. I did a black diamond on my first off road with 2 tugs. That was a 92 YJ 2.5 on street 31's. I would think that I could do it now without a tug in the little popper. I loved that 4 popper. Just not enough to keep it.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:41 AM   #11893
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I put a 430 Lincoln in a 53 ford F100 and used a Chevy 3 speed stick. I love Franken cars. I gotta find the picture of the Jagrolet I built. A Black 74 four door Jag sedan with a 600+HP 454 chevy, a turbo 400 with a bolt on overdrive. It went 196 at El Mirage and over 200 In Nevada. Drove it on the street with the stickers off. It was a total sleeper. I popped 2 bills on the 110 freeway at 2 am one morning playing around.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:37 AM   #11894
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High school had a Galaxy 500 country sedan. You know the one you can sit four in the front seat four in the back seat and another ten in the back. Great car did two spring break trips in this thing just pure awesomeness cruising the Turlock, Modesto area. After I got my yoda it was time to turn this thing into the ultimate panty dropper. I welded all the doors cut the top off with a grinder. Took out the back back seats the ones that fold down. Had the back shot with fiberglass this is after I plumbed it. And turned it into a Jacuzzi. Everything worked like crap but did that thing get the party. I have no idea how I was able to keep my promises to my higher being. As far as speed I don't think they made a speedo that reads that low.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:05 AM   #11895
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V6 dunno ... although the 4BT slides into a wrangler fairly nice.
Joe the tb4 is a great little motor but at nearly 800lbs its a pig...
With the wrangler you have an engine bay that's made for an i6 and with the OM617 -i5 at darn near the same weight as the jeep 4.0L and a little shorter it makes for a good swap.
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Joe the tb4 is a great little motor but at nearly 800lbs its a pig...
With the wrangler you have an engine bay that's made for an i6 and with the OM617 -i5 at darn near the same weight as the jeep 4.0L and a little shorter it makes for a good swap.
probably a bit more torque out of that i5 as well ... I looked up the specs for the 4bt and it's only about 20lb-ft more than the stock motor ...
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:22 AM   #11897
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The om617 can fairly easily tuned to make 300hp/300tq
One of the nice things is it will happily rev to 5 grand...
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:03 PM   #11898
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And run for 500,000 miles.
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And run for 500,000 miles.
My parents had a 1985 Mercedes 300cd with the OM617 i5 turbo diesel and when they sold it it had a little over 750,000 miles on it...
I can't say enough about the durability of this engine...
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Yeah it is pretty much a legend in the industry. What trans do you hook it up to?
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:41 PM   #11901
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Ax-15 ,NV-3550 or the aw-4...
There's addaptors for just about anything you want to put behind it...well almost...lol
One of the vehicles we rebuild here on at the Maintenance Center is a "snow cat" used by the Guard ...it runs these engines and has a variation of GMs 200r overdrive behind it....and you what Art Carr has done with that trans...
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:51 PM   #11902
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Yeah 1200 hp and 8 second 1/4 miles. Still street able.
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Happy Halloween
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:59 PM   #11904
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I took my little Thomas the Train downtown trick or treating. He was the cutest Thomas ever!

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That is funny!!!
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Just got back from our church's Free and safe Halloween night for the city. We had over 6000 people and had to close the gates. The fire marshal freaked. We gave out over 750 lbs of free candy. Geri and I oversaw the Tricycle races. 4 to 9 pm. Bands, food, I ate way too much. Bacon wrapped foot long hot dog, 2 big pieces of pizza, a hot meatball sub and a funnel cake. Whew I am stuffed.
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Happy Halloween I took my little Thomas the Train downtown trick or treating. He was the cutest Thomas ever!
now that's a costume. Great job mom & dad.
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Good Morning everyone.. Had such fun with all the kids and my friends. Must have been 20 of my closest friends working with us to help the kids have fun racing tricycles. It was suppose to be only 4 to 7 year olds but the older kids wanted in on it. They were all arms and legs flailing away. Every kid got candy. We were handing out handfuls at the end. The last kid had got there late so we had him bring his bag over. We dumped the last 2 inches of a 5 gallon bucket of candy into his bag. His eyes got so big. So much fun.

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