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Old 05-06-2013, 08:59 PM   #121
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The Anti-speed shop question...stopping
It is getting time for new brake pads. Sugestions on materials? Semimetallic, ceramic, ... Daily and trail rig, Stock front YJ, Ford 8.8 w/ discs.

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Man the only guy to talk to is Blaine. Black Magic Brakes. He has what you need to stop your rig. PM him or go to his web site.

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Yeah, that's some weight with fuel at 8 or so lbs per gallon and the hi lift is heavy as well, I have one but haven't ever mounted it. Depending on the trail or trip, having extra fluids can be a big help. Last year someone ran out of gas while trying to upright a jeep and only 1 person had some extra fuel....sure did come in handy. A siphon pump might be a help as well.....
Hmmm, sounds familiar...
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Well I just swapped a hard top for a soft top with Andy K9hdlr. So there is about a 100 pounds off. Next is gonna be the whole rear bumper assembly. For something small and light with a receiver mounted in the middle of the beam. I am going to work on some way of putting the tire back on the door and I am debating the high lift. How many times have you guys used yours.
Bob...I have never once used my Hi lift/farm jack in the 28 years I've been wheelin ...not to say I did just Jinks myself though....
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Of course Steve the minute you take it off and leave it home is when you will need it to save your rig the next time out.
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Yeah...exactly ..I have one mounted to the hood of my jeep and it'll stay there awaiting the day...
I hope it still works, its been on the hood of that jeep for nearly ten years now...
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Well I just swapped a hard top for a soft top with Andy K9hdlr. So there is about a 100 pounds off. Next is gonna be the whole rear bumper assembly. For something small and light with a receiver mounted in the middle of the beam. I am going to work on some way of putting the tire back on the door and I am debating the high lift. How many times have you guys used yours.
Seems like everyone has one. You could get by with a aluminum floor jack and if need be borrow someone's hi-lift.
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Hello all, I have an 09 jkru 3.5" on 35s, two questions and two cents. I had only ever used the electronic sway disconnect and found my flex/droop was minimal, this weekend I removed my rear sway completely and got some JKU sway quick disconnects, after pulling the pins in the front I found my articulation went off the charts. Awesome! Down side I need longer brake lines and now to my question, it droops so far that my coils come loose, I've got 4 inch bump stops top and bottom but I don't want the coils to rotate and pop in and out of place but I don't want coil retainer clips limit any droop... Would it make that big of a difference? What long travel coil/ shock options do I have?
#2 I now have a 1956 Shasta trailer at about weighs about 1500 and change. I noticed the jeep isn't a fan of it. I plan on a trans and oil cooler but what gearing would be recommended that still is all out wheeling friendly?
2 cents- for anyone with questions on weight, my 4dr has had plenty f weight added at one point, I took the rack off (body armor) cause it was pointless but with gear, extra fuel, extra skids, bumpers, that there was a sweet spot where it did a little better loaded vs not loaded, but I think it's all driver, just know your rig adapt and survive then again my fuel cans and spare are high enough that I haven't hit them yet.
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I've thought about not carrying a hi lift too, but I figured if I'm going to carry a jack, it might as well be one that is useful in other ways too. If you carry a bottle or floor jack, just make sure it's secure inside, in the unfortunate event of a roll, you don't want a bottle jack projectile inside your cab.
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Yeah...exactly ..I have one mounted to the hood of my jeep and it'll stay there awaiting the day...
I hope it still works, its been on the hood of that jeep for nearly ten years now...
What do you use to change a tire? I bought my hi lift mostly because it's the only jack I have other than the crappy oem one.
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Of course Steve the minute you take it off and leave it home is when you will need it to save your rig the next time out.
Agreed, rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Much like having a winch. Never used any of my gear on myself minus the jack, cause of ripping valve stems off. Winched a jeep out after the jeep tried to yank a Nissan Titan off some rocks then winched the Titan out, next day high lift on same jeep to get some rocks under the tires then winched him over. The extra d rings and straps rescuing toyotas and Chevys. Earned the name rescue Brandon . even the extra fuel i always needed when i didnt have it but ive only ever give a helping hand ha, may not have needed it for myself yet (knock on wood) but I've always been able to help
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It is getting time for new brake pads. Sugestions on materials? Semimetallic, ceramic, ... Daily and trail rig, Stock front YJ, Ford 8.8 w/ discs.
I'm running 35s on a stock brake pads on the front and ceramic on my rear 8.8 and it does its job stopping. My ebrake is pretty good as well. My ex d35 on an incline and ebrake on it would keep rolling.
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Agreed, rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it. Much like having a winch. Never used any of my gear on myself minus the jack, cause of ripping valve stems off. Winched a jeep out after the jeep tried to yank a Nissan Titan off some rocks then winched the Titan out, next day high lift on same jeep to get some rocks under the tires then winched him over. The extra d rings and straps rescuing toyotas and Chevys. Earned the name rescue Brandon . even the extra fuel i always needed when i didnt have it but ive only ever give a helping hand ha, may not have needed it for myself yet (knock on wood) but I've always been able to help
I also like carrying a lot of stuff, i probably carry about 100lbs in things i dont use my self but i have always been able to help others.
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My rig came with the jack and the tire carrier. I am adding the front bumper and winch. I am going to revisit how and what I carry. I just am not a carry a whole spare jeep kinda guy. Somewhere there has to be a balance. Performance vs readiness.
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My jeep runs better being a heavy pig than being light. Having leaf springs really calls for more weight, it helps my little yj flex better.
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What kind of spares do you guys carry?
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My jeep runs better being a heavy pig than being light. Having leaf springs really calls for more weight, it helps my little yj flex better.
How about your springs are to strong for the weight your caring without the spares. Maybe more supple springs would work just as good.
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How about your springs are to strong for the weight your caring without the spares. Maybe more supple springs would work just as good.
The springs are fine, loose about 1 inch of lift on the rear when im loaded for a trip. I just notice that my jeep performs better with more weight. My tires slip less.

As for spares, the only spares i carry are a set of front axle shafts for my dana 30 since i still run my stock ones. I don't worry about the rear at all. I carry spare fluids but no gas. And my handy tool box. Tool box weights about 50lbs. Trying to cut down the weight on it, but it seems that all my tools come in handy to other jeepers. I don't like carrying the hi lift but the one time i needed it i didnt have it. So since then I've carried it but not needed it. Funny Huh.
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My rig came with the jack and the tire carrier. I am adding the front bumper and winch. I am going to revisit how and what I carry. I just am not a carry a whole spare jeep kinda guy. Somewhere there has to be a balance. Performance vs readiness.
I agree Bob it's tough to determine where to draw the line...as a rule of thumb it's like a spare tire, a hi lift or a certain wrench. If you don't bring it, you will need it I have been working on my "must have" list. I guess the fact that everybody brings different things is a good thing sometimes....
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Ok so Mini has a 2.5 YJ which weighs about 3300 pounds and has 35x12.50 tires. So just for giggles lets say at 12 lbs of air he has a 12.50 inch wide x 10 inch long contact patch. That gives him about 500 square inches of ground contact. At 3300 lbs he is only putting 6.6 lbs per square inch down.
If he, as he says. loads it up to say 4300 lbs. he is now putting down 8.6 per sq inch. That is I believe a 33% increase in unit loading. That may very well explain his statement that when he loads it way down it sticks better.
My jeep starts at about 3800 and 7.6 PSI Unit load. if I add the same 1000 lbs I am now at 4800. With the same 35x12.50 tires and 12 psi I am going to have a 9.6 PSI unit loading.
At that weight I am a full 50% above him in contact patch unit load from his 3300 weight.
Maybe some where the best unit load is for a MTRK on a given surface is listed in GY's data sheets, but we are most likely never going to see them. So it is up to us to obviously try to find the best combo of weight to traction for each of our own jeeps.
They are all going to react differently. Mini has leafs, I have coils and stan has coil overs. The wheelbases and how the suspension tracks the ground. All those things are variables.
I need to find something I cant climb and then keep going back after each change till I do. Then I will know what works for me. And I will have enjoyed myself because I did it myself. With ideas I learned here and from before. Sorry if this is mumbo jumbo. It is pretty basic race car stuff. I just want to see if the physics work for jeeps too. This is all talking about the patch directly under the tire. When the tire starts to climb it's patch is shifted from the bottom to the front. Now it is subject to the tractive forces of the other 3 tires pushing it into the rock face. How much pressure is it putting on that single patch now.
LOL it is getting late.
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What do you use to change a tire? I bought my hi lift mostly because it's the only jack I have other than the crappy oem one.
I've never (knock on wood) completely lost a tire to the point I've had to change it. I've had to plug a few in my time though.
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My jeep runs better being a heavy pig than being light. Having leaf springs really calls for more weight, it helps my little yj flex better.
Sounds like your SUA..?
SOA really helps make for a good flex even when lite...
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I've never (knock on wood) completely lost a tire to the point I've had to change it. I've had to plug a few in my time though.
I do bring a 4 ton hydraulic jack, a plug kit as well as valve stem replacement kit
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Sounds like your SUA..?
SOA really helps make for a good flex even when lite...
Yes and yes.. at the time that i did my axle swap I didn't have the funds to go soa. Now that I've taken it out more, i feel that my jeep and I are at the same level and right now that is all that i want to do. One thing is if im going to change something, it would be to a linked suspension. But this jeep might not get to see that happen.
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What kind of spares do you guys carry?
The norm is your spare should be no more then 3" smaller then the tires on your rig..
I have a 35" spare and run 37" tires on the Jeep ...

Now with that said keep in mind that not all tires weigh the same...my 37"Irok's weigh 68 lbs and say a 35" General Grabber weighs 74 lbs so when choosing a spare that's something to keep in mind ...
In other words I could run a full size tire and be liter...
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Yes and yes.. at the time that i did my axle swap I didn't have the funds to go soa. Now that I've taken it out more, i feel that my jeep and I are at the same level and right now that is all that i want to do. One thing is if im going to change something, it would be to a linked suspension. But this jeep might not get to see that happen.
I know we're the minority here but in hopes not to be flamed ....a nicely setup set of springs and SOA is a sweet deal for what we're doin....I love the way my jeep performs on any terrain ...it's also a great setup if your thinking about stretching your wheelbase ...
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I know we're the minority here but in hopes not to be flamed ....a nicely setup set of springs and SOA is a sweet deal for what we're doin....I love the way my jeep performs on any terrain ...it's also a great setup if your thinking about stretching your wheelbase ...
I totally agree with the fact that a well set up soa performs great. The reason i would want a linked suspension would be because my wife would love a much smoother ride. Is soa snotther lets say going 50mph down the desert?

And stretching the wheel base is definitely something i want so that might also add to a smoother ride.
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And lets not flame or get aggressive on this thread. We are all adults and we should have an open mind about our jeep issues, questions etc. After all we all learn from this.
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I totally agree with the fact that a well set up soa performs great. The reason i would want a linked suspension would be because my wife would love a much smoother ride. Is soa snotther lets say going 50mph down the desert?

And stretching the wheel base is definitely something i want so that might also add to a smoother ride.
Yes a SOA is a much smoother ride...the key thing that I've found is that u need to keep the leafs flat...at they're longest point...this way as u cycle through ur suspension cycle the wheels well always be moving in a rearward movement thus giving a smoother ride. It also give you the same amount of drop as upward travel too ...witch makes for great flex.
not to mention a leaf spring setup is inherently stronger ...less moving parts...liter and cheaper to build and or maintain ....
Now this is just my opinion of course ...

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