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Old 05-18-2011, 03:48 PM   #1
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WF Summer Run: Last Chance Canyon and Nightmare Gulch. *See first post for updates*

Hey everyone. Summer is just around the corner, which means some nice wheeling weather. In another thread, Last Chance Canyon and Nightmare Gulch were mentioned as a good place to wheel in SoCal. I thought that now may not be a bad time to set up a tenative time for a trip. Nightmare Gulch is only available for about 6 months a year...and the second half of each of those months. This makes for a fun and scenic trip that isn't always available. The opening day of Nightmare Gulch will be on July 16th, 2011. How does everyone feel about setting up a trip then? Would you like to make it a day run...a camping trip? Post up your ideas, and we will get a trip organized.

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-(An RV will be available if a stove/oven is needed. A charcoal grill can also be arranged)
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Saturday Morning: Set up base camp
Saturday Morning/Afternoon: Depart base camp at approx. 10:00am and arrive at Last Chance Canyon Trailhead. We will stop along the trail for lunch.
Saturday evening: Arrive back at base camp for dinner/potluck and partying


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Not the best pic, but here is part of Nightmare Gulch...

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I might be in for it. That's up in Mojave right? Red Rock area?

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Yes sir! Ill see if I can get some coordinates
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Here we go. I believe these are the coordinates to the trailhead of last chance canyon.

N35 21.672', W117 53.943
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If I were to go, I'd be interested in making it an overnight trip.
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If I were to go, I'd be interested in making it an overnight trip.
Ok. I live about 20 minutes from the trail head so I am ok with either. I have never actually camped out there since I live so close, so I would need to do some looking to see where the best camping spot may be. I know there are some actual camping spots back in red rock canyon though.
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Here we will keep track of the members interested, and whether or not they would like to camp or make it a day trip

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I'm in.
Would you rather a day trip or a camping weekend?
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I would rather camp, makes the trip less rushed.
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I would rather camp, makes the trip less rushed.
Sounds good and it looks like ud have a little drive ahead of you.
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Yea, I don't mind the drive, great thinkin time.
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I'm in for camping.

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I don't know of any camping spots right along the trail. There are a couple of camping spots that I know of close to the Garlock area. On the 14 side (where we'd end up after coming out of Nightmare Gulch), all I know of is Ricardo Campground in the Red Rock Canyon SP, but that cost money.

One possible plan could be to run Last Chance Canyon and Goler Gulch on Saturday, which will drop us off in the Garlock area, then camp somewhere around there. Then on Sunday do Opal Canyon (which is pretty quick and easy) to Nightmare Gulch. That way we could hit three awesome trails in one weekend, and avoid the traffic jam which could likely exist on Nightmare Gulch on opening day Saturday.

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Not a bad idea Armand. I am ok with that. I was gonna ask you...where did your JK-forum guys camp out for that big newbie run?
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I would love to go, but my work schedule will not allow two weekends in one month of wheeling. Have fun and be safe everyone.

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I would love to go, but my work schedule will not allow two weekends in one month of wheeling. Have fun and be safe everyone.

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Sounds like u need a new job just messin Jeff. We will see u in big bear!
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I'm in for camping.

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4. yomondo-camping

I don't know of any camping spots right along the trail. There are a couple of camping spots that I know of close to the Garlock area. On the 14 side (where we'd end up after coming out of Nightmare Gulch), all I know of is Ricardo Campground in the Red Rock Canyon SP, but that cost money.

One possible plan could be to run Last Chance Canyon and Goler Gulch on Saturday, which will drop us off in the Garlock area, then camp somewhere around there. Then on Sunday do Opal Canyon (which is pretty quick and easy) to Nightmare Gulch. That way we could hit three awesome trails in one weekend, and avoid the traffic jam which could likely exist on Nightmare Gulch on opening day Saturday.

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Last Chance Canyon to Goler Gulch
Opal Canyon to Nightmare Gulch

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Armand i remember a campground where we stop for lunch in last chance, that is not allowed for camping?
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Are u talkin about cudday camp? I think the disadvantage to that is that it's kind of in the middle of the trails and there may be quite a bit of traffic through there.
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where did your JK-forum guys camp out for that big newbie run?
We camped at an old military air strip right here
N35 25.493, W117 44.305
But that's a busy place with a lot of RV's and dirt bikers riding all over the place making noise and kicking up dirt. Not too bad a place otherwise. We mainly used it for that run because we had a huge group, and there's lots of space there.

Holland Camp is a good spot too
N35 27.770, W117 47.804
It's a pretty large area, plenty of room for us, but it takes a bit longer to get to from the highway, but since it's 3 miles or so into the hills from the highway, and RV-inaccessible, it's a bit more secluded.

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Are u talkin about cudday camp? I think the disadvantage to that is that it's kind of in the middle of the trails and there may be quite a bit of traffic through there.
Yah, that's Cudahy Camp
N35 24.649, W117 55.589
But there's no camping allowed there.
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Holland Camp is a good spot too
N35 27.770, W117 47.804
It's a pretty large area, plenty of room for us, but it takes a bit longer to get to from the highway, but since it's 3 miles or so into the hills from the highway, and RV-inaccessible, it's a bit more secluded.
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Holland Camp is a good spot too
N35 27.770, W117 47.804
It's a pretty large area, plenty of room for us, but it takes a bit longer to get to from the highway, but since it's 3 miles or so into the hills from the highway, and RV-inaccessible, it's a bit more secluded.
sounds good
Yah, I take back that "RV-inaccessible" part though. I guess you can get an RV up there via Mesquite Canyon, but that's a longer drive and still a bit bumpy, and why would one bother, when the air strip is right there and much easier to get to in an RV.
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Wow thats way back in there lol.
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Wow thats way back in there lol.
It's not that bad. It's a quick and easy dirt road with just a few bumps along the way. It takes maybe 10 minutes to get there from the highway.

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One possible plan could be to run Last Chance Canyon and Goler Gulch on Saturday, which will drop us off in the Garlock area, then camp somewhere around there. Then on Sunday do Opal Canyon (which is pretty quick and easy) to Nightmare Gulch. That way we could hit three awesome trails in one weekend, and avoid the traffic jam which could likely exist on Nightmare Gulch on opening day Saturday.
Actually if we were to camp at Holland Camp and do Nightmare Gulch on Sunday, I'd scratch Opal Canyon and just hop onto Mesquite Canyon from Holland Camp and get to Nightmare Gulch via Mesquite Canyon.

Either way though, some may be cutting it close as far as gasoline for this proposed weekend plan. I'm estimating maybe 70 miles off-road plus around 50 miles on-road between gas stops at the beginning and end of the weekend trip, which could be a problem for some who don't have a means to carry extra gasoline.
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It's not that bad. It's a quick and easy dirt road with just a few bumps along the way. It takes maybe 10 minutes to get there from the highway.



Actually if we were to camp at Holland Camp and do Nightmare Gulch on Sunday, I'd scratch Opal Canyon and just hop onto Mesquite Canyon from Holland Camp and get to Nightmare Gulch via Mesquite Canyon.

Either way though, some may be cutting it close as far as gasoline for this proposed weekend plan. I'm estimating maybe 70 miles off-road plus around 50 miles on-road between gas stops at the beginning and end of the weekend trip, which could be a problem for some who don't have a means to carry extra gasoline.
I figured the campsite wouldnt be too bad...it just looks far from the roads when you look at it on the map lol. Gas will be close considering. The closest for you guys would be right at jawbone, but expect to get gouged in prices. The next closest would probably be back in ridgecrest or inyokern which are gonna be roughly 20 minutes away.
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Heres a question, are you guys wanting to come down friday set up camp, wheel saturday, then wheel sunday...or were you wanting to come down saturday, wheel, set up camp (or vice versa) and then wheel again on sunday, then head home?
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The fact that the Big Bear trip is that same month makes it difficult for me to do as well. Also, isn't it really hot up there in that part of the desert at that time of year? I guess maybe I'm a puss when it comes to hot and dust.
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The fact that the Big Bear trip is that same month makes it difficult for me to do as well. Also, isn't it really hot up there in that part of the desert at that time of year? I guess maybe I'm a puss when it comes to hot and dust.
haha ya it can get a bit toasty up here...but at the rate the weather is goin itll probably be snowing or something during mid july. Ive grown up here so I guess I have grown somewhat acustom to the heat to some degree.

In all honesty, that is something for you guys traveling up here to think about as far as camping...it can get pretty warm during the middle of the day. The nights are great, but its definitely a warm one in the afternoon.
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it will be hot up there, ive been to willow in 115 degree heat and 140 track surface temp in a full leather race suit...now thats fun
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it will be hot up there, ive been to willow in 115 degree heat and 140 track surface temp in a full leather race suit...now thats fun
Ah thats nothing

As long as everyone is aware of the heat we are all good. Since 530 brought it up I thought I would touch base on it...so everyone prepare for a warm weekend.
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For those of you watching this thread, I have gotten permission from a Moderator to edit the first post. The first post will contain the most up to date information on Locations, times, members, etc. Hopefully this will make it easier for everyone to stay caught up with what is going on.

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