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Old 04-08-2013, 11:54 AM   #31
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There is a guy at work I talked to and he has a few wanting to go also. Will come up with a date
I am going to try making Evans creek as well. Sounds like a blast
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Yep, drove up today lots of snow and more coming down. Couple feet in the parking lot and the FS roads are deep. There is a great trip report on the other forum if you want to see what it looked like last weekend.

I am fired up to go next Sunday. I would recommend everyone that comes has a front and rear recovery point as I bet everyone will be stuck at some point along the way.

Is there a meeting time/place yet? Safeway in Bonney Lake work at 10:00am with a stop in Burnett for those needing a forest service pass?

Here are a few shots from today. First one is just the road to get to Evans Creek, 2nd is the puppy in the parking lot, and finally a wider shot of the parking lot.






Scott Lets be there at 9am leave around 9:15-9:30. This we we have plenty of time out on the trails, So look like its going to be about 4 maybe five of us then. Me, you , my boss with a tj, and Shawn3r. Any one else? Lets get a head count so we dont leave you behind.

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Scott Lets be there at 9am leave around 9:15-9:30. This we we have plenty of time out on the trails, So look like its going to be about 4 maybe five of us then. Me, you , my boss with a tj, and Shawn3r. Any one else? Lets get a head count so we dont leave you behind.
I am going to try to make it. I'm down for meeting new ppl and getting my tires dirty. Let you know for sure by Friday.
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Scott Lets be there at 9am leave around 9:15-9:30. This we we have plenty of time out on the trails, So look like its going to be about 4 maybe five of us then. Me, you , my boss with a tj, and Shawn3r. Any one else? Lets get a head count so we dont leave you behind.
Sounds good. I am like 2 minutes from Safeway so it's an easy drive for me
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:33 PM   #36
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Great Run, Thanks to everyone for all their help especially Scott! Here are some pics! It took us 5hrs and multiple attemps we were able get my Jeep out thanks to a "ski" lol
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What happened to your jeep

First my axle broke, then the bottom ball joint.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:09 PM   #40
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:14 PM   #41
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Part of the risk you take when you wheeling, why you bring a good group with you and trailer your jeep lol. Glad I put it on the trailer yesterday.
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do you still have the dana 30 or 44? chromoly axels?
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:05 PM   #43
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HP D30 stock axles, thats why they broke. RCVs coming soon. I wheel super easy on it, just was in the deep snow pulling a guy out turning back and forth looking for traction and it caught! TING! LOL
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Oh damn! That sucks! Yeah my brother is trying to decide on which way he wants to go with the hp30 all chromolyd out or the 44, we think the 30 will be strong enough for the 35s but we know the 44 will be. It just costs a couple grand more..
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If you do some research you will see that the 2 axles are very similar. And yes its way cheaper to go the hp 30 vs 44. I will have no issues once I upgrade the axles. Normally I wheel very easy on it. The last time I was out I broke my front driveline in half and the axles were ok. He putting them in a TJ?
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Yeah it's going into a 01 tj, looks just like yours actually lol thinking about getting the metalclokes as well, that's what caught my eye.. But he has both hp30 and hp44 which is quite a bit of a difference in strength once it's all done but the 44 needs to get retubed because it was cut at the wrong Lengths, nobody seems to do that anymore and if they do it's really expensive so he's still debating... I think he'll be fine with the 30 but he's thinking why not spend the extra money if you're already dumping this much into it, so we'll see what happens..
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Great Run, Thanks to everyone for all their help especially Scott! Here are some pics! It took us 5hrs and multiple attemps we were able get my Jeep out thanks to a "ski" lol

Sure hope you're going to pay for that sign.
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Trip, you got a trailer now? Movin' on up!

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That one was borrowed Bob, but its in the works going to get one soon. I knew it would be a smart idea to trailer it! Alot has changed since you seen my jeep last Bob. We should do a run together soon Elbe or Evans.
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Sure hope you're going to pay for that sign.

You work for F.S.? lol. We all appreciate your support for our trails. That sign was used as a last resort. I am sure you can imagine how difficult it is to find fallen timber in 3ft of snow.
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You work for F.S.? lol. We all appreciate your support for our trails. That sign was used as a last resort. I am sure you can imagine how difficult it is to find fallen timber in 3ft of snow.
Thought processes like this cause our trails to get shut down, you need to either replace the sign or front the money to have it done. Some of us spend a lot of time working with the DNR keeping our trails open and having someone destroy the work makes us all look bad and gives this ultra liberal government yet another reason to shut us out of the lands we own.

I'm new here but I hope this isn't the way all of you wheel or we are going to all end up wheeling on our couches reminiscing about what it was like to get out and wheel.
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Thought processes like this cause our trails to get shut down, you need to either replace the sign or front the money to have it done. Some of us spend a lot of time working with the DNR keeping our trails open and having someone destroy the work makes us all look bad and gives this ultra liberal government yet another reason to shut us out of the lands we own.

I'm new here but I hope this isn't the way all of you wheel or we are going to all end up wheeling on our couches reminiscing about what it was like to get out and wheel.
Woah there, dont think anyone needs to get too heated over this. I honestly dont think he was trying to disrespect anyone or make anyone look bad by using the sign. It was a last resort to get the jeep out. I can imagine it would be difficult to find a log in all that snow.

I do understand that people have to be smart when wheeling and respect the environment but its not like he was out there ripping apart some private land. It was just a simple makeshift repair using what was at hand. Just bring the sign back next run and put back. No harm, no foul.
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Thought processes like this cause our trails to get shut down, you need to either replace the sign or front the money to have it done. Some of us spend a lot of time working with the DNR keeping our trails open and having someone destroy the work makes us all look bad and gives this ultra liberal government yet another reason to shut us out of the lands we own.

I'm new here but I hope this isn't the way all of you wheel or we are going to all end up wheeling on our couches reminiscing about what it was like to get out and wheel.


Thought processes like that????? It seems as if you need to take a step back and re-analyze the situation I was in. I had a broken ball joint. My Jeep was unable to move or be towed with out the aid of a wooden ski. We used two different logs, to act as ski's before hand. Both of which had broken. Then spent over a half an hour tyring to find more fallen timber. The inexpensive 4x4 was used as a last resort. It was the sign or leave my Jeep overnight ( which would have probably been stripped). Again I appreciate your concern in saving our trails. Its not like I took the sign to keep as a souvenir and will be driving around town with it mounted to the back of my Jeep.




Welcome to the forum too! I would like to cordially invite you out with us on every run. We could sure use an authoritative figure out on the trails to police and make sure no violations occur. Be sure to memorize all of the RCW's, and bring a pen and a notebook. Then at the end of the run we can go over any violations. The next trip will be next month, so free up your schedule. If a break occurs we could be out there for a while. Lunch will NOT be provided FYI. I look forward to your assistance.
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Thought processes like that????? It seems as if you need to take a step back and re-analyze the situation I was in. I had a broken ball joint. My Jeep was unable to move or be towed with out the aid of a wooden ski. We used two different logs, to act as ski's before hand. Both of which had broken. Then spent over a half an hour tyring to find more fallen timber. The inexpensive 4x4 was used as a last resort. It was the sign or leave my Jeep overnight ( which would have probably been stripped). Again I appreciate your concern in saving our trails. Its not like I took the sign to keep as a souvenir and will be driving around town with it mounted to the back of my Jeep.




Welcome to the forum too! I would like to cordially invite you out with us on every run. We could sure use an authoritative figure out on the trails to police and make sure no violations occur. Be sure to memorize all of the RCW's, and bring a pen and a notebook. Then at the end of the run we can go over any violations. The next trip will be next month, so free up your schedule. If a break occurs we could be out there for a while. Lunch will NOT be provided FYI. I look forward to your assistance.



You obviously have never taken part in anything that didn't benefit you, some people out there care more for the group than they do their own garbage.

It wasn't a 4x4 you used that was laying around, it was a sign that probably cost the taxpayer a few thousand dollars to have installed, or it was installed by some volunteer who gave up his weekend so that he could ensure that pieces of trash can still go out and destroy the sport he enjoys doing.

If you're not willing to fix this maybe someone should ensure that you get sent the bill for it.
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You obviously have never taken part in anything that didn't benefit you, some people out there care more for the group than they do their own garbage.

It wasn't a 4x4 you used that was laying around, it was a sign that probably cost the taxpayer a few thousand dollars to have installed, or it was installed by some volunteer who gave up his weekend so that he could ensure that pieces of trash can still go out and destroy the sport he enjoys doing.

If you're not willing to fix this maybe someone should ensure that you get sent the bill for it.
I never said I wasnt going to fix it, of course I will make it right. We need to keep our trials open dont we!? lol
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Don't sweat it folks. I know TN. He'll do what's right. We are a good group here. And welcome to the newbs.

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Triplenickle, First off bad luck on the carnage and glad you made it out and didn't have to leave your rig. (always good to wheel with friends) Now onto the sign. Bummer you had to do that but we all do what we have to when required.Personaly I have been working on Evans creek for more than 30 years (since we the PNW4WDA and the FS built the park) and I am the first one to jump on someone's back for doing stupid things that hurt our play areas. I also represent the 4x4 users in Washington on the NOVA funding committee and I really hate to see such things because we really hate to have to pay for something twice. On that note it has been said that you will be taking care of this and I will trust that you will. I highly suggest that you contact the forest service before they contact you first. If they do it will almost certainly be handled with a citation and a court appearance in federal court. You need to call either Mary Coughlin or Steve Johnson at the White river station (360) 825-6585 ASAP because news of this is traveling around the net as we speak and I am sure they will hear about it soon if they already haven't. Thanks in advance for taking care of this promptly.

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Triplenickle, First off bad luck on the carnage and glad you made it out and didn't have to leave your rig. (always good to wheel with friends) Now onto the sign. Bummer you had to do that but we all do what we have to when required.Personaly I have been working on Evans creek for more than 30 years (since we the PNW4WDA and the FS built the park) and I am the first one to jump on someone's back for doing stupid things that hurt our play areas. I also represent the 4x4 users in Washington on the NOVA funding committee and I really hate to see such things because we really hate to have to pay for something twice. On that note it has been said that you will be taking care of this and I will trust that you will. I highly suggest that you contact the forest service before they contact you first. If they do it will almost certainly be handled with a citation and a court appearance in federal court. You need to call either Mary Coughlin or Steve Johnson at the White river station (360) 825-6585 ASAP because news of this is traveling around the net as we speak and I am sure they will hear about it soon if they already haven't. Thanks in advance for taking care of this promptly.

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Thanks Jim,

I will be taking care of it ASAP. My Jeep is still undrive able at the moment, so as soon as I can get it running or get a ride the sign will be back in place. Also thanks for the contact info. I tried to find someone to contact, but was unsuccessful. Furthermore, feel free to contact me when you guys are going to be doing the trail grooming in June. I had already emailed a guy a month or so ago. As you probably read, the sign was a last resort. I am not that type of person who goes around destroying things for fun. Please relay my message to any other members, if this topic gets brought up.
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Phone calls have been made. And my understanding is that this issue has been resolved.

We all want to do the right things to ensure our children will be able to use the same parks and lands we have been able to use.
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Thanks for getting in touch with Mary . The work party will be on June 15/16 watch the www.pnww4wda.org site for updates.

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