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Old 12-14-2012, 02:26 PM   #31
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Speaking of posted rules, these were set in Surrey, England at the Richmond Golf Club in addition to the usual rules of golf.



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Old 12-14-2012, 02:29 PM   #32
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I spent 6 years in the Marines and my MOS was 0331 Infantry Machine Gunner. I don't know where they got that move away from the fight BS.

We were always taught to establish fire superiority and then advance towards the enemy. Since we are all expert marksmen we were also taught to use the effective range of the M-16 which was good up to 500 yards. That's 500 yards without a scope. I can put 10 out of 10 rounds into a dinner plate at 500 yards without a scope all day long with an M-16. So yes distance can be your friend but I was NEVER taught to move away from the enemy.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:48 PM   #33
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In the South Carolina State Museum one of the displays has the actual official rules of dueling.
Gotta think duels wouldn't have been as popular if everyone had a Glock though.
I'm pretty sure the accuracy of a Glock and an 18th century single shot flintlock pistol are pretty comparable.

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I spent 6 years in the Marines and my MOS was 0331 Infantry Machine Gunner. I don't know where they got that move away from the fight BS.

We were always taught to establish fire superiority and then advance towards the enemy. Since we are all expert marksmen we were also taught to use the effective range of the M-16 which was good up to 500 yards. That's 500 yards without a scope. I can put 10 out of 10 rounds into a dinner plate at 500 yards without a scope all day long with an M-16. So yes distance can be your friend but I was NEVER taught to move away from the enemy.
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I was Air Force Security Forces and when we went through (in Tech school and at our squadrons) training, we were trained like you guys. Establish a base of fire, fire superiority, and then advance to the enemy.
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:57 PM   #35
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I was Air Force Security Forces and when we went through (in Tech school and at our squadrons) training, we were trained like you guys. Establish a base of fire, fire superiority, and then advance to the enemy.
I have trained with all branches of the military, several law enforcement agencies and the concept of retreat is only used in very specific circumstances. The general concept is the same among all forces, ADVANCE toward the enemy.
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I'm pretty sure the accuracy of a Glock and an 18th century single shot flintlock pistol are pretty comparable.

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Another good rule for a gun fight if you are in the military (I got this from a Marine buddy):

Always remember your gun was built by the lowest bidder.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:06 AM   #38
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Another good rule for a gun fight if you are in the military (I got this from a Marine buddy):

Always remember your gun was built by the lowest bidder.
Not everything is bought based on lowest bidder.
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Another good rule for a gun fight if you are in the military (I got this from a Marine buddy):

Always remember your gun was built by the lowest bidder.
Not always the case... And although they may not all be the very best weapons available, most issues are caused by lack of maintenance and not manufacturing issues.
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Not always the case... And although they may not all be the very best weapons available, most issues are caused by lack of maintenance and not manufacturing issues.
slightly off topic but the asteroid movie with Bruce Willis, forget name now, has a joke about flying on a rocket filled with nuclear warheads built by lowest bidder. Was funny.
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Another good rule for a gun fight if you are in the military (I got this from a Marine buddy):

Always remember your gun was built by the lowest bidder.
No way. Built buy the guy closest to a Senator.
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armagedon,,,,bruse willys,,,,,great movie...at least i liked it...
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slightly off topic but the asteroid movie with Bruce Willis, forget name now, has a joke about flying on a rocket filled with nuclear warheads built by lowest bidder. Was funny.
"You know we're strapped in on top of four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?"

I think... close enough for government work.


And on topic, the entire philosophy concerning military response to an active shooter on base is to run away, hide, and lock the door...
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And on topic, the entire philosophy concerning military response to an active shooter on base is to run away, hide, and lock the door...
I love how even in States where it's easy to get a CCW you still can't carry on a military base. Makes me feel good that they trust me enough to send me overseas with an M4 and an M9 but not enough to carry my own personal weapon which i'm even more qualifed on then their sh**** M9.

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