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Old 03-16-2009, 07:40 PM   #1
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a moment of your time, please...

I asked the President for a moment of his time, now I'll ask all of you. I wrote this out on my blog but I wanted more than just the six or seven people who read it to see it. So I'm reposting it here....

I think maybe President Obama is confused. Confused over who owes Veterans not only a debt of gratitude but also care for their service connected injuries.

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The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.
Now, hang on. Let me get this straight. A Veteran, who has private insurance, walks into the VA to be treated for a leg injury from Operation Iraqi Freedom. He's not 100% disabled, so other things such as general health care and sickness he heads to his private doctor.

Are you following me so far?

So this Vet is at the VA dealing with say pain caused by nerve damage in his leg from an IED. He's in quite a bit of pain, but this is service connected so he waits for his appointment with the VA.

The VA doctor scripts him a pain medication and sends him on his way. The VA then sends the bill to his private insurance.

What? And that's a double Whiskey Tango Foxtrot over. The VA bills the Veteran in essence because he is PAYING for private health insurance.

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The proposed requirement for these companies to reimburse the VA would not only be unfair, says the Legion, but would have an adverse impact on service-connected disabled veterans and their families. The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered.

Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.
I have to ask, President Obama, who sent these fine men and women to battle? Was it private insurance companies to fight for lower premiums or maybe nicer break rooms?

No. This country called out. They answered. And now you send them a bill of service for the price of war. You, sir, are a flaming moron and your intentions are painfully apparent.

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"I got the distinct impression that the only hope of this plan not being enacted," said Commander Rehbein, "is for an alternative plan to be developed that would generate the desired $540-million in revenue.
You're robbing Peter to pay Paul. Only Peter is missing a leg and is in constant pain because he took Paul's place on the front lines.

The American Legion Strongly Opposed to President's Plan to Charge Wounded Heroes for Treatment

I encourage everyone here to PLEASE write your congressman. This is in no way shape or form right. Injured heroes deserve the support of this country, both mentally and physically. This is a crime.

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This is why I hate to read the news!!!!

It makes me so angry that we can give billions and billion to banking execs who "screwed the pooch" to line their own pockets, and then try to renig on a measley half a billion owed to those who made it possible for these scumbags to even operate with the freedoms they have to persue their business.

Dang right I'll write some letters!!!

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Old 03-16-2009, 08:31 PM   #4
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Here's a site to find email addresses to your congress person.

Contacting the Congress

Just click your state on the right. Tell them you appose President Obama's plan to bill private insurance for services rendered by the VA to Veterans for service connected issues. There is major doubt this bill will pass, but as we know that doesn't always mean it won't.
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Oh, I've still got the addresses from the letters I wrote about the failout, um er, I mean bailout.
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I've been dieing to post about this...

Thanks obama voters.
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I've been dieing to post about this...

Thanks obama voters.
vets have been getting the shaft long before obama walked into office.......
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I don't care when it started, I don't care who started it. All I care is that it doesn't continue. Obama's administration is pulling some real boners right now when it comes to Vets including allowing Veteran's names, addresses, and benefit claims released to researchers, government contractors, and a list of others in the form of a huge data base.

Obama stated everyone needs "some skin in the game". We've all got to dig deep and pay. Vets paid, and there's no way they owe this country anything more than the blood and sweat they've already given for it. He needs to back off on this bill to make private insurance pay, it's wrong and it makes him and his cabinet look like fools, and ungrateful fools at that.
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vets have been getting the shaft long before obama walked into office.......
Yep, democrats have been around for a long time but this particular piece of crap belongs to obama and those that supported him.
This is just another example of why it's a bad idea to vote a hardcore socialist into office.
I seriously doubt this will fly, Americans are starting to wake up.
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^ I agree Americans are starting to wake up; the only thing is that we have to deal with this sort of crap for the next 4 years.
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Sad, but even worse is that it does not surprise me one bit. The part that really pisses me off though, is that I have noticed how I have gone from writing my representatives once/twice a year, to once/twice a week, and all for stuff as horribly outrageous as this. I just don't know anymore. I don't get any of it anymore, and I have NO idea what we can possibly do next. Scary.
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What we do is take a cue from the left. We organize. We get off our butts and we stop being the silent majority. Start talking to everybody you can get to listen. stop letting the left control the conversation.

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I have been dealing with the VA for the past 3 years over a service connected diability since I've been out. Its a real crap shoot to have to deal with them to begin with they are really slow here in Indianapolis. Though its not right of me to do but seems right in my eyes after I graduated school and left my part-time job with benifits to my new full-time job I simply just didn't report to them my new insurance agency, And I don't get billed for anything if I have to go to the Va. You can set and call me an A$$hole all day long for doing it but I dont care I think the goverment owe's it to me after having my hand crushed under a flight control surface on a fighter jet.
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I have been dealing with the VA for the past 3 years over a service connected diability since I've been out. Its a real crap shoot to have to deal with them to begin with they are really slow here in Indianapolis. Though its not right of me to do but seems right in my eyes after I graduated school and left my part-time job with benifits to my new full-time job I simply just didn't report to them my new insurance agency, And I don't get billed for anything if I have to go to the Va. You can set and call me an A$$hole all day long for doing it but I dont care I think the goverment owe's it to me after having my hand crushed under a flight control surface on a fighter jet.
I don't think anyone here blames you at ALL (at least not me), but I wouldn't be posting that on a public forum either. This is wrong, we all know it, and the government SHOULD be paying for your health after you gave it up for your country. Just don't go out bragging about it is all. Just my useless .02
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Obama Drops Controversial Third-Party Billing Proposal for Veterans | 44 | washingtonpost.com

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President Obama today abandoned a proposal to bill veterans' private insurance companies for treatment of combat-related injuries after the measure prompted an outcry from veterans service organizations and members of Congress.
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not to change the subject but you had your hand crushed ouch acouple of months ago we had a new private get crushed by a bradley and heres the best part after the medics said he wouldn't make it then it was he wouldn't beable to walk. well hes actually walking now after his whole lower section got crushed from the bradley.

i had a buddy who got blowen up in iraq and the govn't hasn't paid his family but they rather give billions of dollars to aig so them rich f$$$s can go home with millions will familys are paying the price of blood from there sons and daughters husbands and wifes to defend this contry and we don't realy ask for much just gratitued and respect and half the time we can't even get that. well the couple of days that i have left i'll just say this i have a barrett 50 that says otherwise and im not afraid to use it. and the way i see it is i swore to defend this contry from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.
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Fantastic.


American Chronicle | Tiahrt Introduces the Veterans Healthcare Commitment Act of 2009

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U.S. Congressman Todd Tiahrt (R-Goddard) introduced the Veterans Healthcare Commitment Act of 2009. The bill would prohibit the Veterans Administration from billing a veteran´s personal insurance company for hospital care or medical services associated with a service-connected disability.

Tiahrt introduced the Veterans Healthcare Commitment Act to block the Obama Administration's proposal that would require private insurers to reimburse the VA for certain healthcare costs associated with a service-related disability. Although the Administration announced late Wednesday it was withdrawing its proposal, Tiahrt said it was important to ensure any future consideration of this disrespectful plan would not be authorized.

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