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Old 05-18-2013, 03:42 AM   #61
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I like bolt actions too. I may build one in a 300 winmag one day. Rem 700 action, macmillan stock, custom trigger group. It'll be a long time before I can afford the parts though.

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I like bolt actions too. I may build one in a 300 winmag one day. Rem 700 action, macmillan stock, custom trigger group. It'll be a long time before I can afford the parts though.
Their not that spendy to build if you have the action. I had a remmy 700 chambered in 6mm Br with a jewell 2oz trigger and stainless hart barrel 1"x24" sold it for $1000 minus the scope

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Yeah my problem is too many hobbies. Can't afford to buy fun stuff for the jeep and new guns.

Untill then I'll just do my hunting with my AR or M1 depending on how big an animal i'm hunting. That M1 is actually pretty good for hog hunting.

I've been doing a lot of competition shooting lately, out to 1000 yards with iron sights. Getting decent at it. Can't wait to see what I can do with a 300 WinMag and a decent scope.
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Yeah my problem is too many hobbies. Can't afford to buy fun stuff for the jeep and new guns.

Untill then I'll just do my hunting with my AR or M1 depending on how big an animal i'm hunting. That M1 is actually pretty good for hog hunting.

I've been doing a lot of competition shooting lately, out to 1000 yards with iron sights. Getting decent at it. Can't wait to see what I can do with a 300 WinMag and a decent scope.
For me the 300 win mag is the perfect round. Lotsa hp. Great ballistics and there isnt anything on the north american continent i cant take with it.
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Yeah, would be far better for those 1,000 yard matches too. .223 (AR) just won't reach. and the 30-06 (M1) struggles. Granted i'm using surplus 30-06 ammo cuz i'm on a budget right now but I can keep it on the paper and that's about it.
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Yeah, would be far better for those 1,000 yard matches too. .223 (AR) just won't reach. and the 30-06 (M1) struggles. Granted i'm using surplus 30-06 ammo cuz i'm on a budget right now but I can keep it on the paper and that's about it.
The 30-06 was a great sniper round. Maybe not quite as accurate as the .308 but it had way more firepower. I have an "ought 6 O3/A3
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those are nice rifles too. Yeah .308 has just a little more reach to it. I shot my buddy's Mk-II M1 (.308 chambered). Was able to hold the shot's a little tighter with it. I'm definitely no pro at this anyway, but you can tell the difference.
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Check out this article from Field and Stream. It breaks down the science of what actually factors into reduced recoil....The Top 5 Softest Kicking Semi-Auto Shotguns | Field & Stream
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Check out this article from Field and Stream. It breaks down the science of what actually factors into reduced recoil....The Top 5 Softest Kicking Semi-Auto Shotguns | Field & Stream
Thanks for the article!! I really appreciate it.
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Just bought a Rem 1187 compact. Gunsmith going to add vertical grip for my left hand to hold. It is custom for my reach so hand is in neutral. Wrist in extension causes pain. Did not go with a pistol grip for right hand as did not want those forces translated through wrist. A close second was the Rem youth 870. My husband called me a redneck today cuz I like guns and jeeps!!!
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No pink camo?

Nice choice.
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No pink camo?

Nice choice.

Was my first pick but it wasn't wide enough for the vertical grip. I got hassled big time about the pink!!! I am kinda getting girly in my old age.
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Was my first pick but it wasn't wide enough for the vertical grip. I got hassled big time about the pink!!! I am kinda getting girly in my old age.
At least yer socks match the gun
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Old 06-09-2013, 12:54 AM   #76
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Finally got to the range today. I bonded with my new 1187. At one time my hubby looked over and asked me why the shells weren't automatically being kicked out. Apparently, the semi and auto part is not working correctly.

Trap is hard!!!!! At least I didn't miss all of the clays.

I also had a nice young man give me some excellent pointers!!!! He helped a lot!!!

Watching the ole timers was fascinating. I rarely saw them miss.

My day was pretty awesome as I road to the gun club in my topless jeep listening to country music than went shooting and ended the evening in my hot tub with a glass of wine!!!
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Finally got to the range today. I bonded with my new 1187. At one time my hubby looked over and asked me why the shells weren't automatically being kicked out. Apparently, the semi and auto part is not working correctly.

Trap is hard!!!!! At least I didn't miss all of the clays.

I also had a nice young man give me some excellent pointers!!!! He helped a lot!!!

Watching the ole timers was fascinating. I rarely saw them miss.

My day was pretty awesome as I road to the gun club in my topless jeep listening to country music than went shooting and ended the evening in my hot tub with a glass of wine!!!

I didnt happen to read where you got your gun from if you posted it, but if you cannot fix the issues of the semi and auto part not working, try getting a hold of the dealer and see if they can fix it under some sort of warranty. I know when i bought my first shot gun (pump action 12 gauge mossberg 500) i had issues with it jamming up and i had to take it apart to unjam it. sent it back and got i fixed and fully functioning with really no hassle. If you cannot fix it on your own, there is always that option. Shoot it again though to make sure that it is a reoccurring issue and try to figure out as specific as possible when the issue occurs. it helps if you send it back because then they know exactly whats going on and how to fix it instead of going in blind.
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I didnt happen to read where you got your gun from if you posted it, but if you cannot fix the issues of the semi and auto part not working, try getting a hold of the dealer and see if they can fix it under some sort of warranty. I know when i bought my first shot gun (pump action 12 gauge mossberg 500) i had issues with it jamming up and i had to take it apart to unjam it. sent it back and got i fixed and fully functioning with really no hassle. If you cannot fix it on your own, there is always that option. Shoot it again though to make sure that it is a reoccurring issue and try to figure out as specific as possible when the issue occurs. it helps if you send it back because then they know exactly whats going on and how to fix it instead of going in blind.
Yeah I just got it. It was my first time shooting with it. It is still under warranty so it will be going back in tomorrow. I loves everything else about it
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Yeah I just got it. It was my first time shooting with it. It is still under warranty so it will be going back in tomorrow. I loves everything else about it
Well then once it fires flawlessly, you will love it even more!!!
i still need to fire my newest gun, . cannot wait
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Sounds like a well spent day, there.

Trap takes practice. You'll improve every time you go (and the ol timers have loads and loads of practice).

Good luck on getting the kinks out, it shouldn't be too much trouble for ya. As said, the more specific you can be about the problem, the easier/faster it will be to fix.

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Very nice...

How do the wrist and the shoulder feel?
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Yeah trap/skeet is hard. Those guys just make it look easy cuz they've had lots of practice.

Since the gun is under warranty, just let the shop deal with it. If you have details on what is moving that shouldn't, or not moving that should, it will make their job easier and faster though.

I've always worked with pumps, not too familiar with semi autos, but am kind of curious what is going on with it. Bolt not cycling at all? Bolt is cycling but not ejecting the spent round? Is this gun gas operated, or mechanical recoil operated?

Could be a few different things based on all of that. Bad ejector, bad or clogged gas system, maybe something just wasn't assembled right.
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1187 is gas operated. It could be the ammo, I would try some different ammo before I sent it back. As far as trap goes always lead the clay, especially on the fall.
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Old 06-09-2013, 09:55 AM   #84
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Could be the ammo too. Only reason i mentioned bad gas system is I have seen more than one AR go down because something in the gas line either blew out, or just got clogged up with too much carbon and such. Different gun, same principal. If that gas pressure can't get back to the bolt, the bolt won't cycle right. You gotta cock it manually after each shot. Freaking annoying when that happens.
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Bolt is not cycling at all. Called the gun shop today and the guy who answered the phone immediately said that it is likely due to the light trap load. Not enough powder to generate enough gas to eject the shell. I was shooting Winchester 7 1/2 bird shot. He suggested firing a heavier load like a slug or 00 buck shot to see if the shells eject.

My wrists and shoulders felt no impact or discomfort. The set up with the vertical grip is excellent!!!! Thanks to those who suggested it!!! I am feeling muscles that haven't been worked like that though.
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I've recently got a hold of a Saiga 12.(12 gauge). It has a five round magazine. You can get a 10 round stick or A 20 round drum. It's based like an AK-47. In the after market mags you can't fit 3" shells.( and they require filling for the best fit) you can't use light rounds because it is gas operated. I got the pistol grip and adjustable stock with mine. It also came with a dinky fore-grip. Might replace the fore-grip and stock with Magpul. It does have less recoil than any of my 12 gauge pumps(seems equal with my break barrel 20 gau.). Haven't had any problems with it.
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Could be the ammo. Got a brand new shiney glock .45 once, and some weak 185 grain cheap ammo just so i could go put a few rounds through it. Slide wouldn't kick back at all.

Went and got a box of better 230 grain ammo, and it cycled perfectly ever since.

I realize the glock operates completely different. But just an example of what weak ammo can do to you.

Try better ammo first. if it still doesn't cycle i suspect the gas system, have the shop take a look at it since it's under warranty.
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Shot 00 buck shot and cycled no problem. Will try the 1300 fps ( had 1200 fps) soon.
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Excellent. I would try to stick with high base rounds. Several game bird rounds are high base. Keep trying different brands of low base ammo until you find one that will reliably cycle the bolt.
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I bought all Winchester. Does anyone recommend another brand?

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