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Old 06-09-2014, 10:37 AM   #1
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Almost killed someone yesterday...

...not on purpose, though.

I was sitting at a light near my house, and when it turned green, I started to accelerate through the light, when this idiot on a bicycle zips right across the road in front of me. Seriously, if I had been going just a tiny bit faster, he would've been a hood ornament. I slammed on my brakes and honked at him, then proceeded on my way because I figured he's not worth the trouble. Then my wife, who was riding in the passenger seat, told me the guy flipped us off. At that point, I was like, "AW HELL NO!" I made a U-turn and went looking for this idiot. I caught up with him about a half mile down the road. I pulled up alongside him, and he realized that it was the same Jeep. He had the "deer in the headlights" look on his face. I shouted, "Next time you pull that s***, I'm running you over, a**hole!"

Yeah, maybe that was a bit over the line, but it made me feel a lot better, so screw him. He'll probably be dead soon if he keeps riding like that.

I hate people who think the rules don't apply to them.

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That's whatsup show them damn bicyclists who's boss. They're mostly jerks and think their shit don't stink. I hate them.

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I am both a jeeper and a bicyclist. I have pulled that same maneuver by mistake twice, thinking the person had seen me and given me the " go ahead" sign. Both times I waved apologetically. Wonder what the guy was thinking when he flipped you off? Of course a crap-load of adrenaline will make anyone more likely to be aggressive e.g. flip-off a guy and/or chase down a guy
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Wonder what the guy was thinking when he flipped you off?
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I was coming home one day. My travel route is a mountainous route. Anyways I came around a Blind corner doing 30 in a 30 suggested speed and lo-behold there sat a Bicyclist in the middle of the damn road swigging a water bottle.

Slammed the brakes and damn near hit him and he started yelling at me. I then back-up, grabbed a DMV rulebook I keep in the Jeep and threw it at him smacking him in the head while yelling "RULES OF THE ROAD, READ EM OR I HIT YOU NEXT TIME.

Call me an ass, but I'm not going to risk my life anymore trying to avoid a stupid ass person. I'm done.
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Old 06-09-2014, 07:53 PM   #7
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I'm also a cyclist, and Slo.....you hate me already...lol! Was he a cyclist or a guy with a suspended DL pedaling home from the bar?? One guy being stupid does not make ALL cyclist bad! Nor does one fat guy in a Jeep throwing cigarette butts out his door make all Jeepers idiots!

My cycling gear and bike cost way to much for me to be foolish while riding!
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Most bicyclists think that they can do whatever they want. Drives me crazy!!
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I then back-up, grabbed a DMV rulebook I keep in the Jeep and threw it at him smacking him in the head while yelling "RULES OF THE ROAD, READ EM OR I HIT YOU NEXT TIME.

Call me an ass, but I'm not going to risk my life anymore trying to avoid a stupid ass person. I'm done.
That is hilarious, there's trails for a reason for bicyclists/joggers. Most think they own the road and it i annoying.
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That is hilarious, there's trails for a reason for bicyclists/joggers. Most think they own the road and it i annoying.
Yea I don't mind Sharing the road and there are quite a few good cyclists out there. But unfortunately (as most things) there appears to be more stupid ones than good ones.

Dunno about other places but Oregon requires bicyclists to obey the same rules as cars and I never saw anything in the Rule book about stopping in the middle of a blind corner to swig some water lol
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Cycling is pretty big here in Ottawa. Many cycle into work from 25kms or more. My only issue with them is when they spend time on the left side of the Pkwy (where we drive) instead of using the allotted space provided to them. There seems to be this attitude among those who do this that we're evil for destroying the environment with our fossil fuels consumption. I can't even guess how many times I've had them wander out in my space on a 60 km/h Pkwy as I'm passing. Ridiculous.

To the OP, I have chased down people who do similar things to me. Canadians have a temper, too.
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Yea I don't mind Sharing the road and there are quite a few good cyclists out there. But unfortunately (as most things) there appears to be more stupid ones than good ones.

Dunno about other places but Oregon requires bicyclists to obey the same rules as cars and I never saw anything in the Rule book about stopping in the middle of a blind corner to swig some water lol
Yeah I don't mind them but if your on a 40 mph road and there is a place on the side of the road for you, you don't need the road.
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There are idiot bikers and obviously some idiot Jeepers as demonstrated by some of the responses here. How many times have you guys cut somebody off by accident and not realized? As stated already, was this a biker or just some idiot on a bike because there is a difference!! My mountain bike & gear cost more than a TF 60, why would I or any true biker risk that kind of an expense by pulling out in front of the vehicle?
As a Jeeper and Mtn Biker I have just as much right on the road as any other vehicle.
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There are idiot bikers and obviously some idiot Jeepers as demonstrated by some of the responses here. How many times have you guys cut somebody off by accident and not realized? As stated already, was this a biker or just some idiot on a bike because there is a difference!! My mountain bike & gear cost more than a TF 60, why would I or any true biker risk that kind of an expense by pulling out in front of the vehicle?
As a Jeeper and Mtn Biker I have just as much right on the road as any other vehicle.
My post was about cyclists not staying in their area on a 60km/h road. With oncoming traffic and trying to leave the cyclists enough space, it can get hairy when they don't respect the division of space.
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There are idiot bikers and obviously some idiot Jeepers as demonstrated by some of the responses here. How many times have you guys cut somebody off by accident and not realized? As stated already, was this a biker or just some idiot on a bike because there is a difference!! My mountain bike & gear cost more than a TF 60, why would I or any true biker risk that kind of an expense by pulling out in front of the vehicle?
As a Jeeper and Mtn Biker I have just as much right on the road as any other vehicle.
I respect cyclists on roads but why risk it. I've been told stories for example; about a family friend that thought he had as much right to the road (which they do) and he ended up dead. Its not that they don't, its that its dangerous for cyclist some people don't pay attention and they will hit them. Its safer for them to stay on trails imo. I love going on bike rides/walks on trails its peaceful and don't have to worry about anything in Missouri (no deadly animals to worry about around here)
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I respect cyclists on roads but why risk it. I've been told stories for example; about a family friend that thought he had as much right to the road (which they do) and he ended up dead. Its not that they don't, its that its dangerous for cyclist some people don't pay attention and they will hit them. Its safer for them to stay on trails imo. I love going on bike rides/walks on trails its peaceful and don't have to worry about anything in Missouri (no deadly animals to worry about around here)
Honestly because they have the RIGHT to use the same roadways as vehicles. They also have the same responsibility as vehicles. And to clarify there are different types of bikers there's individual riding a bike to work because they don't have a vehicle, casual rider that take their bike out for a "ride" and then there are riders that spend a ton of money on their equipment and gear because their biking is as important to them as jeeps are to us! One of the mountain bikers I ride with, his bike was $11,000! And I'd be willing to bet there are a lot more bikers cut off by vehicles than the other way around!
There are not always trails available for say a Road bike. Many of my road biker friends ride upwards of 100-150 miles a day and average 50mph on an open road!
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:38 AM   #17
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I'm a road cyclist (check my SN). I regularly pedal 46 miles per day RT to work. I have to share the roads with motor vehicles. More so during the afternoon commute than at 4:30am when I head to work. I try to obey all the traffic rules that someone would be expected to follow if they were driving a car. I try to stay to the far right of the road or on a paved shoulder, if one is available. I also signal my turns, something a LOT of motorists around here don't do.

Anyway, I find that I'm generally treated with respect. I do know that there are a handful of cyclists who set a bad example for the rest of us by the way they act. There are also some motorists who feel that all cyclists should be confined to trails, not really an option for my road bike and there's not a trail all the way from my house to where I work anyway.

Not sure where I was going with this but I try to treat other vehicles on the road with respect and I hope they will do the same for me. Cyclists have a right to the road, just as any other vehicle does. If I am moving slower I will try to stay out of the way when I can.
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Old 06-10-2014, 03:08 PM   #19
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Sinister, as a road cyclist I'm calling, well, ummmm, typo? Lol....on the averaging 50 mph on the open road post!

The pros on the Tour do not average close to that.

Anyway, glad too see others who are cycling on the road, and off road courses! Great cardio......damm sure fun!
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Sinister, as a road cyclist I'm calling, well, ummmm, typo? Lol....on the averaging 50 mph on the open road post! The pros on the Tour do not average close to that. Anyway, glad too see others who are cycling on the road, and off road courses! Great cardio......damm sure fun!
Oh crap, fat finger! Lol meant 30! It sounded good any way...
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Honestly because they have the RIGHT to use the same roadways as vehicles. They also have the same responsibility as vehicles. And to clarify there are different types of bikers there's individual riding a bike to work because they don't have a vehicle, casual rider that take their bike out for a "ride" and then there are riders that spend a ton of money on their equipment and gear because their biking is as important to them as jeeps are to us! One of the mountain bikers I ride with, his bike was $11,000! And I'd be willing to bet there are a lot more bikers cut off by vehicles than the other way around!
There are not always trails available for say a Road bike. Many of my road biker friends ride upwards of 100-150 miles a day and average 50mph on an open road!
I respect that as I said already, but why the roads? There are other places and stuff like for example (bad example) If there is a sidewalk to use why not use it and not the road. If there is a safer solution then use it, again that is just my thoughts. There are A LOT of DUMB drivers out there and I wouldn't fell safe on a bike with no protection against a vehicle. The bikers that do spend a lot of money on their bikes (as much as I can tell) do stay to the right, but just someone riding it they usually take up the whole road and I have a lot of windy roads where I live. For me, there is a trail literally 2 minutes away (concrete) why not use that, its more peaceful too I think it would be better than the road.
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Celtic - allot of people have asked that very question, i wondered about that too before I got into cycling a few years ago.

Sidewalks are made for and used by walkers, joggers, dog walking, parents walking with children on bikes, and baby strollers, etc. Cycling alone, or with a group at speeds of 15 to 30 MPH is just way to fast / dangerous for ALL in those conditions.

Cycling alone, I sometimes try to use bike trails. However, as with sidewalks, it is very difficult to maintain speed because of the two way traffic of walkers, joggers, dog walkers, children on their toys, groups stopping to talk, etc! People walking dogs with extended leashes are a big fear of mine...lol.

No real cyclist wants to slow down traffic, or risk injury to themselves or others. On the roadway, I and my group ALWAYS stay to the side of the road. HOWEVER, there are short periods of time, due to road debris we can not! WE then use (as allowed by state statue) our right to use the roadway, and motorized vehicles are allowed to pass when they safely can.

Hope this helps with some understanding of "why"!
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if you get him i would mount that finger as a hood ornament. i bike and jeeo too. im always more observant on my bike cuz i dont want to get squashed. for him to "wave" at you......ya fully justified in your comments
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Lots of bikes here in Minneapolis. I don't mind them most of the time, and many ride around just fine. My only real gripe is that whole "I'm a car/I'm a bike" when it's convenient thing. What I mean is some of them ride in traffic like a car, which is fine. We come to a red light, they stop. They look around and then go right on through the intersection or turn across traffic on a red! Or they veer on to the sidewalk at an intersection, red light or 4 way stop, and just cruise through the pedestrian painted crosswalk, and then back on to the road on the other side. When this happens, I can never really tell if they are going to follow the rules of the road, of just dart around by whatever means is convenient. Those are the ones I generally speed around to get away from as I don't want some dead biker on my conscience. The are usually the ones who will flip you off if they think you are being an ass by zooming past.
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+1 These days you never who carries a gun. I have a friend who is an avid cyclist and carries a gun, everywhere he goes. He wouldn't shoot for something like that, but, there are some nut jobs out there that might. People die sometimes for a lot less. Just saying........
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That's whatsup show them damn bicyclists who's boss. They're mostly jerks and think their shit don't stink. I hate them.
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I'm an avid biker who spends a fair amount of time on the road. I'm pretty shocked by some of the comments here. People with a bad attitude toward cyclists shouldn't be on the road period.

Clearly the guy thought he had the right of way. Maybe he entered the intersection on a yellow. Something doesn't sound right and without the guys account we'll never know.

Chasing down a cyclist and threatening him is as dumb as it gets. If I was the guy I would have got your plate then called the police and filed a menacing charge along with anything else I could think of...
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I'm an avid biker who spends a fair amount of time on the road. I'm pretty shocked by some of the comments here. People with a bad attitude toward cyclists shouldn't be on the road period. Clearly the guy thought he had the right of way. Maybe he entered the intersection on a yellow. Something doesn't sound right and without the guys account we'll never know. Chasing down a cyclist and threatening him is as dumb as it gets. If I was the guy I would have got your plate then called the police and filed a menacing charge along with anything else I could think of...
Not all cyclists are the same in different places. Here they think the own the road, run red lights ride 3-4 ft from the curb. Etc etc. and a lot if deaths and severe accidents around here because of it. So there are a lot of ignorant cyclists around here and they piss me off lol. The good cyclists are an exception around here but there are a few.

I enjoy riding mountain bikes with my kids but even me myself after riding motorcycles for years would not consider riding on the road unless I have too as there are just as many retards in cars around here as there are on bicycles.

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