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Old 11-19-2008, 12:24 PM   #1
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any backpackers?

im designing a light weight backpack, really it is for backpacking but i am going to throw in some buisness/school amenities so you can go elsewhere.my query with you guys is too see what people in general would like to see in something like that. i know what i want but that doesn't always make a good product. i am a student, so understand that this is a personal project to sate my own curiosity in the stages of design and prototyping. so this isn't meant for any kind of production!

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Old 11-19-2008, 12:27 PM   #2
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I've always had internal frame trash-can packs. I don't like compartments. Something big enough that I can almost go two weeks without a food cache. Super durable and field repairable.

I don't know who the f***tard is that decided it would be great to start designing boots with cloth eyelets instead of metal. That sort of detail is the deal breaker for me on gear.

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yeah i have boots with cloth eyelets they have held up so far, but that doesn't mean shit when they break and you are two weeks in the wilderness with no way of gettin out in a hurry! this pack will be top loading with a cinch to close the top. there won't be any zippers cause zippers suck. so far it has a big "shove-it" pocket in the front, two on the side and the top is a small storage are. i wanna put an area for a laptop inside but i don't know where or how. there won't be a "frame" exactly, it will have a flexible back plate probably made of plastic for support. but this pack is gonna be around 2000 cubic inches. so its for the ultra light weight packer. or a good day pack.but i need to make it more versatile. for school use.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:46 PM   #4
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Make a padded sleeve that velcros in right against the back but high up. Are you an industrial designer?
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:51 PM   #5
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unknown! i've been into packs and and outdoor equipment for awhile, i am currently a mechanical engineering student. but i am leaning towards design and r&d and prototyping more than anything else. so i am new and learning
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:56 PM   #6
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Where are you in your avatar? Looks like Mineral Wells outside of FW TX.
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Old 11-19-2008, 12:58 PM   #7
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haha nope that is giong up the dragons tooth trail/appalachian trail. its a pretty fast ascent about 1700 feet in under 1/2
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So not a lot of horse traffic. jk
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:01 PM   #9
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this first pack is just to prove to myself that i can do it! the next will be more inovative and hopefully i will find a company around here to help with the prototyping. for the time being i think i am going to be stitching myself
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:02 PM   #10
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So not a lot of horse traffic. jk
yeah no horses there. haha dogs though!
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:25 PM   #11
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I wish I still had my first generation NorthFace internal (1982?). It was one of the first, and the padding on the hipbelt was very simple. None of that injection molded heat stamped batman action like all the packs have today.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:27 PM   #12
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You know what might be an easier project, all things considered, and way tricky. A tent! You can get custom poles made, and there are probably non-proprietary clips and fasteners that would work.
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ohh yeah finding the hardwear would be easy. and cheap too. but i would get a little carried away with the fabric i believe, but thanks i might just try that next. oh and i have an osprey pack bought it last year to replace my simple old ebay pack. it has injected molded heat watchamacallit an i love it, i like high tech look and simple ergonomic features. that back accomplishes all. its the aether 75 btw . on the pack i am making i am gonna use 420 denier ripstop nylon and 500deneir cordura plus for any strength enhanced areas very easaliy field maintainable and light but stong, with some waterproofing abilities .there are some others but i won't keep going!
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:15 PM   #14
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im designing a light weight backpack, really it is for backpacking but i am going to throw in some buisness/school amenities
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... i wanna put an area for a laptop inside but i don't know where or how. there won't be a "frame" exactly, it will have a flexible back plate probably made of plastic for support. but this pack is gonna be around 2000 cubic inches. so its for the ultra light weight packer. or a good day pack.but i need to make it more versatile. for school use.
It really sounds like a school day pack. The ultralight crowd are using basic bags that use their 3/4 length z-rest as the back pad. The padding required to protect a laptop would out weigh the overall pack weight.

Don't know any backpackers that carry laptops. Current bushes are very elusive.
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Old 11-19-2008, 02:21 PM   #15
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It really sounds like a school day pack. The ultralight crowd are using basic bags that use their 3/4 length z-rest as the back pad. The padding required to protect a laptop would out weigh the overall pack weight.

Don't know any backpackers that carry laptops. Current bushes are very elusive.
well the idea here is to have a pack that i can take for the weekend then just stroll into school afterwords i know people don't carry laptops into the woods but i carry mine to school. i want to get two birds with one stone so to speak!perhaps a removable utility back pad on the inside witch would Velcro onto the interior. this would have the laptop case and pencil pockets and what not on it, so it could be removable, your making me think about it keep going this is what i wanted
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Starting to sound like a better contraption. Something on the order of the tactical vest systems used by SWAT and others. Big chunks of velcro that allow you to customize it to your particular activity or body style or preferences. Plug and play the configuration you need for a particular activity.
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my major concern is weight i haven't researched velcro and the weight. if u think about how the pack is maid its just sections stitched together. the back pannel is gonna be a little heavy it will have velcro on one side and padding on the other. i wanna keep this under 3 pounds it should be less. no zippers and minimal straps and plastic hardware.
right now i need to find straps and the foam used in the back pad. don't know what to use. or what is available in small amounts (some fabrics and materials are bulk order only)
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com on lets get some input
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Links - Backpack Component Manufacturers

There is a company in Colorado I've used for mods and repairs. I'll try and remember the name.
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thanks alot for the info, i was having a problem in my research, every company i came across that dealt with special fabrics and buckles you would have to either bulk order or just not have anything. it seems like hiring a company to make a prototype would be the best option but due to my minimal drawings i plan on cutting the pieces myself and then "tacking" them together and then getting someone to finish the stitching, i will oversee everything. my ability to draw or use cad with enough detail to send to a company isn't quit there yet so i will have to improvise. the idea is there i just need to get it on paper i have lots of little sketches but nothing you could build off of.
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I would use Illustrator and build prototypes with paper and davy board, just to the the dies close.
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I would use Illustrator and build prototypes with paper and davy board, just to the the dies close.
im actually planning on buying autodesk alias studio. i already have autocad. so i am hoping to use that. i think this will turn out well, but i do worry about the difference between a back country pack and a functional business pack
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I wasn't saying it but thinking it. I would have two different bags. I'm probably not your target consumer though.
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Old 11-20-2008, 09:53 AM   #24
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well really neither am i, i have a different bag for everything, i am a gear nut. but the idea started out as a school pack that had the looks of a back country pack, but now i realize i would like to have a pack that can handle both weekend hikes and school and office use
so i have kind of changed from the original, but its all just branstorming and rough sketches anyway. i have the fabric all picked out and the materials for the exterior. nothing on the interior yet.
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i've explored both sites and kinda didn't find what i needed but thanks though.
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This is the shop I use for repairs and mods.

Rainy Pass Repair, Inc. Gear Repair
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Gossamer Gear Mariposa Backpack Review

^looks cool. I wonder about the durability of the Epic fabric… It makes super light bags and jackets.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:35 PM   #29
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thats a cool pack and kinda the same idea i had as far as the top latching system. except i will have an actual lid on mine that will close over the sinch top. the buckle and strap will be sort of the same as far as running the length of the pack.
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Make a padded sleeve that velcros in right against the back but high up. Are you an industrial designer?
holy sh*t i completely missed that and then posted something similar when talking to someone else! i'm sorry, credit is due. so thanks for the idea, don't know how i missed it.

don't want you to think am stealing ideas here.

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