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Old 08-28-2012, 06:34 PM   #31
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:33 PM   #32
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Here is my opinion on hunting. Since you are looking for one. Killing of any animal in a factory farm situation or hunting is wrong to me.

I did not join this thread to convert meat eaters to be vegan. I only wanted to converse with like minded people. You put yourself up to this by posting on this thread.
Is it wrong for someone who survives off the land exclusively to hunt? And is it wrong for hunters to take injured, or nuisance animals?

Once again, I just want answers from a vegan, dont take this as a bash at all.

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Old 08-29-2012, 06:43 AM   #33
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Ok, this is my opinion, and my opinion only. I am not speaking for all vegans. I am a vegan because I want to help stop the killing of all animals. I do not believe animals are here for us to abuse, hunt, eat, and wear as clothing.

When people hear I do not eat meat and dairy, they seemed horrified. Humans can survive without meat.

The same question is always asked. How do you get your protein? I always laugh to myself when asked that. Most people don't even know how much protein they are even supposed to have in a healthy diet. Come on really? Are people eating meat and dairy just for the protein? No, I think they eat these foods because they enjoy and want them. I know I did before I went vegan.

Also, too much protein is dangerous to your kidneys. If the concern is your health being vegan or not we all have to watch protein, fat, sodium and calorie intake.

Being vegan is one of the many things that defines me as a person, but not the only thing. I have other interests that you may also have. One being Jeeps.
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So are you for the animal abuse that happens daily in the slaughterhouses? Is a hamburger that important to you that a cow had to endure suffering by being kicked and beat with steel rods?
First off, its usually very few people at a facility that does that. Yet people assume its the entire industry thats like that.

And a hamburger? Maybe. A nice juicy steak... Yes. Its called pre-tenderizing...
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So it sounds like to me that you yourself have no problem beating a cow with a steel rod. Or chaining a young calf to a fence so you can punch her. Wow, big tough man.

The comment of this doesn't happen all the time is a typical response from people in denial.
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FYI

Central Valley Meat Co. In LA was just closed down due to abuse. Our USDA has even stopped from purchasing meat from this location.
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what you all are calling sushi is not sushi..... a veggie roll is NOT sushi.
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Why don't you meat eaters start your own thread? Quit high jacking this one.

If you are on here to honestly learn about the vegan lifestyle and are open minded then fine. Ask questions that you honestly want to hear the answers to. Don't ask questions or make comments to purposely cause conflict.

I am taking the high road and getting on with my life. I suggest everyone else do the same.
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what you all are calling sushi is not sushi..... a veggie roll is NOT sushi.
This is probably coming from an American who's never been to Japan, or actually studied Japan like I have.
The definition of sushi is "small balls or rolls of vinegar-flavored cold cooked rice served with a garnish of raw fish, vegetables, or egg". What in the world are you talking about?
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Play nice folks or gets shut down. This thread is for folks who don't eat meat and the discussion of it in an adult setting.
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Play nice folks or gets shut down. This thread is for folks who don't eat meat and the discussion of it in an adult setting.
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This is probably coming from an American who's never been to Japan, or actually studied Japan like I have.
hence the hello kitty outfit.......enjoy your thread jeepers
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All the soy and grains the factory farmed animals are fed could feed the billions of people in the world.

Meat is the most inefficient and wasteful form of protein.

So are you for the animal abuse that happens daily in the slaughterhouses? Is a hamburger that important to you that a cow had to endure suffering by being kicked and beat with steel rods?
Not all meat is treated like that. Venison that are killed when hunting aren't locked in tiny pens and treated like punching bags. The pork belly I buy locally is from local farms that don't run huge meat processing operations. My friend keeps cows that they slaughter for beef; I even petted the bull once. The worst treatment the bull almost had to endure was me trying to wrestle him on a drunken dare and I have to say the bull would have probably treated me much worse than I could have treated him.

That being said, I do like my veggies and will make meatless dishes as often as I have meat filled dishes. One of my favorites is a tom kha mu. My friends said I might as well be Asian for all the Asian food I eat.
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Ok, this is my opinion, and my opinion only. I am not speaking for all vegans. I am a vegan because I want to help stop the killing of all animals. I do not believe animals are here for us to abuse, hunt, eat, and wear as clothing.

When people hear I do not eat meat and dairy, they seemed horrified. Humans can survive without meat.
What about over population? That's usually a big problem with deer populations that go unchecked; they become overpopulated to the point where they're hurting other species because of all the food they're consuming? What should be done in those situations?
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So it sounds like to me that you yourself have no problem beating a cow with a steel rod. Or chaining a young calf to a fence so you can punch her. Wow, big tough man.

The comment of this doesn't happen all the time is a typical response from people in denial.
No I'm not for animal abuse. However I value the life of a human over that of a cow.
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Been a Jeeper my whole life and a vegan for over 25 years. Both are a big part of who I am.
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So glad to find this thread! I am a 5th year vegan and was veg for 5 years before that.

Not only that, but I convinced my next local Jeep club's get together at a vegan joint here in Portland!

So stoked.
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Old 11-27-2013, 02:52 AM   #49
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And this is a new project I started: Off-road Vegan.
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Old 11-28-2013, 07:43 AM   #50
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Hi Scott Happy Thanksliving!

So happy that you posted, we are planning to move to Portland in the near future. We would love to be a part of your Off-Road Vegan Club.
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Wow! Awesome!

Portland will change your life, you have no idea. We have 5 vegan bakeries in the city. Vegan BBQ, vegan chinese, vegan everything.

There is even a vegan strip club, Casa Diablo. I do not make this stuff up. For vegans, its paradise.

So the Vegan Offroad is more of a blog at this point, but who knows? Our biggest club is the Wrangler forum people from Oregon. We have a very healthy group that does runs as well as out of state trips (Moab, Rubicon, etc.)

I actually convinced them to have our next monthly meeting at Veggie Grill, a vegan fast food joint!

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Portland sounds like our kind of place! We live near Chicago which has vegan places to eat which are very good. We think Portland will be a better fit for out lifestyle now.

Took a look at your blog. Looks like you are having fun! Hopefully, we will be able to join you and your group soon.
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I like to hunt, that should answer the question. I don't even know a vegetarian.
If more of us hunted, thus not factory farmed, and slaughtered humanely, I would not find vegetarianism so attractive. That said, I am not vegetarian, but feel guilty about supermarket meat and the negative environmental impact of a meat-based diet.
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:32 PM   #56
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Lightbulb I would love a Vegan Jeep!

Mercedes has two Vegan options with special order.The only problem is that I don't want a Mercedes I want a Jeep Cherokee. Why can't there be a high quality Vegan leather or high quality cloth interior? Maybe I am just hopeful but I think if people knew that it takes up to 15 cows to make one automobile they might think twice. And if a sirloin steak or car with leather did not make people think they have money they would not buy. Congrats meat industry for brainwashing so many people for so many years! Show us you care Jeep, if even just a little. VeganWorld - You must be the change you wish to see in the world
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Unfortunately it is a necessary evil. Billions of humans would starve to death without factory farming.
Our family is not starving and most of us are vegan. It takes 7 pounds of grain and 2500 gallons of water for each pound of meat produced.

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