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Old 01-20-2013, 11:47 AM   #1
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When my MiMi passed in Feb '10, I started to map who I am, so my nephews and niece will know who they are (at least half, anyway).

Any of y'all mapped who you are or where you're from? When you came to the States?

My family has many unique stories. Here is one:
My 4 great grandpa fought against the Cherokee in GA, and as such was rewarded with land on the Flint River. He settled and made a home. They lived there for many generations, and watched the town of Terminus be developed and grow, then become the capital Marthasville, and later become Atlanta.

When the yankees came to GA, they approached Atlanta from the NorhWest, circling down to the Southern end of Atlanta and driving North into the city through Jonesboro. This sent them right past a little crossing on the Flint River, where the family farm was. A skirmish ensued, and it just so happened that while my 3G grandpa was sitting in Hellmira NY, his pregnant wife found herself going into labor, quite literally in the middle of a battlefield. As she lay on the only bed in the cabin, her father in law and mother watched in desperation. Suddenly a cannon ball ripped through the wall of the cabin, slammed against the headboard splitting it violently, and bounced to the floor. Enraged, my 4G Grandpa stormed onto the battlefield and addressed the Yankee commander. He told him what was happening, and the skirmish was halted. The yankee commander, chaplain and field surgeon were brought to the aide of my aunt, and christened the baby Shell Hannah Marivel, or marvilous shell Hannah. She went by Shell-Hannah her whole life.

Truth is so much stranger than fiction.

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Oh, by some accounts the Yankees were more cruel than what you wrote. Like how they only left silo's full of Black Eyed Peas for Southerners to eat after they burnt Atlanta. At least they left them though.

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On another issue, I know Obama's beer summit buddy, Henry Luis Gates, is using Ancestry.com to track down decendants of former slave owners, and former slaves for some reason. Is that for Reparations, or to be used for Lawsuits against former slave owning families? I don't know.
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Oh, by some accounts the Yankees were more cruel than what you wrote. Like how they only left silo's full of Black Eyed Peas for Southerners to eat after they burnt Atlanta. At least they left them though.
That's THE good story, as in singular.

One of my grandmas had to hide a side of bacon under the baby and kill & cook thier last chicken. When the yankees came to her house she claimed the cooking chicken as her last bit of food (4 kids & her), and was smoking her pipe. They left the chicken, never found the bacon - and took her pipe and tabacco from her hands.

Many, many more stories flow like this. Part of my line, the Banks, is closely related to the Mitchell family, and when a young Mitchell girl wanted to tell the story, she stayed at the Banks residence for quite some time while writing Gone With the Wind. Those stories are the stories of my people and their neighbors.
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The Inland Empire, California was also cruel to sympathizers of the South. They've got a alot of washes out there where they don't let people play in...... even to this day for some reason.
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On another issue, I know Obama's beer summit buddy, Henry Luis Gates, is using Ancestry.com to track down decendants of former slave owners, and former slaves for some reason. Is that for Reparations, or to be used for Lawsuits against former slave owning families? I don't know.
There was a special, I think PBS but could be wrong, about a year ago. It looked up the ancestry of the man you mentioned in addition to many others including Stephan Colbert, Eva Longoria, Meryl Streep, Dr. Oz, and more. I'm pretty sure Mr Gates was responsible for that production. I think education and information more than anything is the reason. It was a good special. Should watch.
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And to the OP: I don't know any. But I do find genealogy very interesting. I tried looking up stuff for family couple years ago but hard time finding stuff prior to my grandparents on my moms side. Both grandmother and grandfather 1st generation American. Their parents were born in Ireland and Italy respectively. I'm not close to my father's side of family so don't know much but they've been in SC for a very long time. I know at min my great great grandfather on dads side from here bc I grew up on the same land he lived on. Prior to that, or the other branches on that side, no clue.
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It's always interesting though. Sometimes to see how normal they were, or how relatively they were same class the descendants are. To my knowledge no real black sheep in terms of killers or anything but always interesting.
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There was a special, I think PBS but could be wrong, about a year ago. It looked up the ancestry of the man you mentioned in addition to many others including Stephan Colbert, Eva Longoria, Meryl Streep, Dr. Oz, and more. I'm pretty sure Mr Gates was responsible for that production. I think education and information more than anything is the reason. It was a good special. Should watch.
You would be correct about that. They get federal grants ( your tax dollars) when it is labeled as "for educational purposes only". That way they don't have to pay for the research with their own money. It is a smart/ cheap way to make some money, to keep you afloat for awhile, if your business goes belly-up.
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It's always interesting though. Sometimes to see how normal they were, or how relatively they were same class the descendants are. To my knowledge no real black sheep in terms of killers or anything but always interesting.
One of my kinsmen disapears about the same time a man with his name shows up in a hospital for the mentally insane. He was a young boy during the civil war, and I do not know what he saw or did, but something drove him to be committed. This was back when they did really horrifying things to make you sane again.
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All in all, war isn't very nice, no matter what side you are on.
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My mom is big into geneology...when she and my dad retired they even traveled the country for 3 years in their RV and visited ancestral places to go through old records in county clerk's offices and churches, took pictures of graves, interviewed distant relatives, etc. She gave me and my brothers each a book of everything they found. Some highlights:

My earliest many-great grandparents were born in Colchester, England in 1643 and 1650. They came to America in 1665 as indentured servants. After paying their debt, in 1670 they leased 130 acres in Essex County, VA to grow tobacco. As typical they had a child just about every year, 9 living in total. In their wills they left the land to the eldest son and gave one slave each to their next 3, and cows to the rest. One of their sons served as Company Commander under Colonel George Washington during the French and Indian war. Another son died in the battle known as Braddock's Defeat in 1755. Five of their grandchildren later served in the Revolutionary War.

During the civil war my several-times great grandfather, a Union cavalry soldier named Benjamin Waggener, met and married a 17 year old Ara Jane Mitchell, daughter of James Monroe Mitchell and Malinda Cloud Mitchell (hey, maybe we're related, BlueRidge) in Missouri. The Mitchells were Union sympathizers who had already freed their inherited slaves and during the later war would throw suppers and dances for the troops. In a letter Ara Jane described the day of the Battle of Wilson Creek, the first major battle in the area, and how soldiers from both sides came "running by their house like they were scared to death". Many stopped to get a drink of water and "drank two wells dry that day". Some asked to be fed or stay the night. The family used their bed sheets and linens to bandage the soldier's wounds. Later in the war and under threat from confederate bushwhackers they ended up having to abandon their farm, placing all of their possessions in wagons and driving their cattle. The hogs had to be released because "you can't drive hogs". They ended up in Rolla, MO which was a Union stronghold.

Benjamin was injured in the war and collected a $25 a month pension for the rest of his life. He and Ara Jane went on to have 8 children and he became a minister. Sometime during their lives they moved to Oregon where he died in 1923 at age 84.

So, my people were mainly farmers, soldiers and preachers from VA, KY and MO before my direct branch of the tree came out West.
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My grandparents told me a story how at one point, there was only one surviving family member from our branch of the family tree. He ended up fighting for the south in the battle of Gettysburg (I think that's what it was), and getting shot and captured. He survived through the war in a prison camp, and lived to have kids. So many things could have gone wrong and killed him there. Just thought that was a kind of cool story.
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Good stuff Ed. I "met" some family members (distant cousins) via the interwebs while researching my family. I actually was able to send them by a middle relations house on their way cross country and get loads of documents, while she got loads of pictures. It is really cool the stuff that happens.

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My grandparents told me a story how at one point, there was only one surviving family member from our branch of the family tree. He ended up fighting for the south in the battle of Gettysburg (I think that's what it was), and getting shot and captured. He survived through the war in a prison camp, and lived to have kids. So many things could have gone wrong and killed him there. Just thought that was a kind of cool story.
Any idea what prison? I had a few kinsmen in that fight, too. One got captured and sent to Elmira, iirc. Many Yankee war prisons (including Hell-mira) had mortality rates above 25%, one out of four would die while there. There are just amazing stories about what they all went through.
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As the story goes, a Catholic priest in Strasbourg found himself to be a real-life "father" in the original sense of the word and here we are are, Not-Catholic in the New World...because he didn't give them a chance to kill him.

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