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Old 08-19-2008, 05:12 AM   #1
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anyone into weight lifting..supplements...

i have found being in japan leaves me with ALOT of free time so i figured ill utilize my time to get big and more fit so when i head home in about ayear to marry my fiance i can suprise her with the change..does anyone use supplements or have a steady weight program they follow..i currently started on a cycle of N.O. Explode, Syntha 6 protein, Axis-HT testosterone booster and nitrix...anyone else use them and maybe have comments on their perfomrance...

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Old 08-19-2008, 07:19 AM   #2
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Ever heard of the "Hardgainer" approach? Tis an older method that I tried some time ago (circa 90's) and had good luck with.

There are likely newer ones, but this one worked for me back then.

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Old 08-19-2008, 07:25 AM   #3
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i have never tried that program but it looks like it could be effective if followed right..
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:40 AM   #4
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My experience with supplements has been this.......they're great as long as you continue to use them. If you have to stop for any reason (you go to war as an actual fighter, instead of someone who sits around the fob all day lifting weights), then you lose most of the weight (most of it's water weight anyway) and alot of the tone.

Here's the best way to get big and get into killer shape. And it works for EVERYONE, not just some. I guarantee this will work, but it takes motivation.

Lift BIG
Eat BIG
Get your sleep

That's it. Very simple. Just have to stick to the program.
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Old 08-19-2008, 08:45 AM   #5
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sounds good i lift as big as a can and i value my sleep, unfortunitly they changed my orders again (im really starting to hate the dam commands) so im going to be a FOB for a while spending all my time to lift weights unless a volunteer list comes around..
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:10 PM   #6
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I agree with Cavey. I was a fight/fitness instructor for several years. Supplements are for fast gain. Fast gain means fast loss. They're also dangerous. You need to gain muscle the old fashion way, you have to work at it.

Make sure you work the muscles in a specific order. Work big muscle groups first, then smaller ones. Also, change up your workouts frequently, work muscles in different ways, different angles. And, muscles need a day to repair after a workout, so if you are working out every day do top or bottom.
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I've always found the 12oz curl works best for me.
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:50 PM   #8
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In years past I had used andro, superdrol and lots of other stuff. The stuff you are using is just watered down versions of that stuff. They have side effects such as dehydration, remove water from your joints (which can damage them), liver issues long term. This is especially true in hot weather. For years now I have trained with nothing more than vitamins and protien. If your under 30, you wont get anything from a test booster and the use of it will lower your test after the cycle. The best long term program is 1 gram of protien per Lb of body weight in your daily diet (a good protein shake will help), a good vitamin pack with water soluable vitamins and big heavy movements with low reps and rest more days if you're a naturaly skinny hard gainer.
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workout, eat right. lots of protien. all that stuff is junk that will mess your body up in the long run. like joe dirt mentioned. your body will become dependent on the supliments and your natural levels will fall off. and honestly, mixing all that stuff cant be too good for ya either. be careful of whey protien, it will help you add weight and bulk up but it will also send your cholesterol ski high. all of these things have hidden issues you dont see.

like cavediver said, to get big, you've gotta lift big and eat big. that doesnt mean eat tons of junk food. you still have to eat good, but eat big. lots of protien and calories to burn. high weight low reps will give you stregnth and muscle mass(bulk) low weight and high reps will give you endurance and tone. i recommend a mixture of both, esp if you've got a lot of free time. dont forget to do stretching and cardio. the cardio will help your endurance and if you dont stretch you wont be able to do much with your strength or you'll get injured alot easier
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I've always suggested if you want to sup your protein to use soy protein for shakes. I used it only while I was training excessively to control the weight loss. I chose soy simply because.... um.... well you really don't want to know where they get the protein when it's animal protein (it's not from the good parts, ewww).

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